Dem Senators Open To Allowing Innocent Chinese Detainees To Live In U.S.

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First Posted: 05-27-09 04:45 PM   |   Updated: 05-27-09 07:52 PM

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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states.

But a group of 17 Chinese Muslims have been cleared by the Bush administration and aren't looking for a prison to lock them up -- they need a community to take them in.

The Huffington Post asked senators how they'd deal with what should be a simpler problem but politically could be more difficult: What about the Uighurs?

"This has just been such a horrible situation for these people," said Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the third-ranking Democrat. "They have been pilloried by people on the floor of the Senate, but most believe, most people I have heard from suggest that they should be returned, but the question is no one will take them."

Why won't we take them?

"I don't know. We may be in a position where that will be considered, but I leave that up to the administration. I just don't know," he said.

Several senators began answers with the premise that the Uighurs were not a threat, but transitioned while they spoke to keeping them in prison.

"I think anybody who is declared not to be a threat is not. We have plenty of places to hold people. We have maximum-security prisons that nobody is ever going to get out of. That's just a fact," said North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan.

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"There are going to be detainees that are not going to be able to be tried, for whatever reasons, and are going to have to be released. The question is where. And I think that's an issue that we need to talk about, because in some cases their native countries are not accepting them for whatever reasons. I think there are more options than just the United States, and I think we need to look at all the options," said Sen. Ben Cardin, a Democrat who represents Maryland, a state neighboring the Northern Virginia Uighur community that has volunteered to take them.

"I would not exclude the United States," said Cardin.

"I'm open to discussion on that. I don't know enough details to know," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

Sens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) are the leading Republican theorists on detention policy in the Senate. Both said the Uighur situation could only be resolved by the implementation of a comprehensive policy that covered all detainees.

"There's no policy. Again, we've got to have a policy," said McCain. "I'd be willing to negotiate with the White House to try to work out all these issues."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had taken a hard line on detainees earlier last week, saying that none could be transferred to the United States, not even to prisons. He dialed that back a bit in a recent interview with the Las Vegas Sun.

But the best he would do is say the Uighurs "probably" don't belong in maximum security prison.

"There's no question that a number of these people who are there are not guilty of anything. The Uighurs, these are a group of Muslim Chinese who are guilty of nothing. They were arrested, put in there. They are there. They are doing nothing. We're going to have to find someplace to put them. We can't send them back to China. Should they go into a maximum-security prison? Probably not," he said.

The Uighurs themselves aren't optimistic that they'll be released anytime soon, they told their translator recently. "If we are the innocent ones from day one -- and for the past six years, and the government knew we were innocent -- if we are still here, how he is going to deal with the 240 prisoners and shut down the base by next January?" their translator says they wonder. "They're a little bit skeptical about it actually happening."


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- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Put them in a house next to Tom Tancredo's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
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I will put a sign on his house on his behalf that says;

"Welcome Detainees.­"

In Chinese!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 171 fans permalink
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Just took a nap and mispoke. 'These politicians don't want these people in the U.S. because they want quiet etc etc etc ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/27/2009
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I thought I knew what double speak was, until I read this, I did not.

What a mess Bush has left in his, scratch that,
What a mess Cheney has left in his wake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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If Bush had been a man, he would have shut Cheney down... But he went along with a smile and a cheer, like the cheerleader he always was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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Exactly, frat boy in a skirt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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From what I've been reading lately, it looks like there might have been a mini civil war in Bush's 2nd term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/27/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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More puppet, with the strings attached to Chainey's fingers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/27/2009
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Dubya, the Andover PonPon boy, was little more than C heney's toadie and an easy tool for the NeoCons. He was an incompetent shill for them and with access to the enormous power he had, the world will be a long time cleaning up the mess left in that hideous st00ge's wake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

I think that was the deal they cut from the beginning. The gops knew they could never sell so ur, ug ly Cheney as the nominee. And, they knew Bush was so stooopid that he would go along with anything so he and Laura could "have a great time in the White House."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/27/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 575 fans permalink
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You made me think of a joke I heard from Craig Ferguson last week:

"Does Che.ney think he's still the President?"

;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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Does Chainey still think he is relevant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/27/2009
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Its no matter. When you relieve the watch you accept responsibility for what went before to deal with it. All Presidents leave shat behind. Bush more than anyone since Carter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/27/2009
- IDIOTA I'm a Fan of IDIOTA 56 fans permalink

Okay I just saw an ad here at HP: "How many want to send Gitmo detainees to Louisiana?" Such cynicism makes me wonder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/27/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 288 fans permalink
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Did you notice the www.vitter.com/NotInMyCountry

I don't want to click it as it could be a pro-vitter site and I'm not going there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/27/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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so pinto is kitzcaboose and shortbus is shawnhanks
CC2 is in HI *coughcough*

what else did i miss?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
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That's probably about it, kel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Hey wb's :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- GaBu2 I'm a Fan of GaBu2 53 fans permalink
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..as usual, everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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yes, of course, the center of the universe. how could I forget.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 05/27/2009
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Ya' gottem'! ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/27/2009

Correct me if i'm wrong.If these 17 people are innocent why are they still in gitmo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/27/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Same reasons many Cubans languish in American Dentiontion centers: can't send them home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

Not sure. But, my bet is the answer is gop fe ar mon gers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
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Dunno. The democrats are in complete charge of the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Yup, we will figure it out too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 05/27/2009
- offred I'm a Fan of offred 47 fans permalink

Uighurs are only terrorists to China, because Uighurs are separatists. They were turned in for bounties. They're not a threat to Americans, or wouldn't have been before being sent to Guantanamo.

From Wikipedia:

"Following the September 11, 2001 attacks in the USA, China voiced its support for the United States of America in the war on terror. The Chinese government has often referred to Uyghur nationalists as "terrorists" and received more global support for their own "war on terror" since 9/11. Human rights organizations have become concerned that this "war on terror" is being used by the Chinese government as a pretext to repress ethnic Uyghurs."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/27/2009
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the UN has branded their organization a terror group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/27/2009
- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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Yo! The vast majority of Uighurs living in western China do not support the millitant uyghurs. And, the three other ethnic Muslim groups are totally opposed to the Uyghur domination of western China. http://diggchina.blogspot.com/2009/02/is-china-target-of-global-sponsered.html

perhaps because they do not like their busses blown up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPaPqQZLh40

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- IDIOTA I'm a Fan of IDIOTA 56 fans permalink

Sounds like Russia and Chechnya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 05/28/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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My mind wanders, but I'm laughing at how Noot is front and center in the New and Improved repub party.
Now with more Whiteners !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/27/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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Ah, now I get it.

Can't type Noot the correct way, eh? Getting scrubbed all night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
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rotfl! That's good! ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
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He toasted Durbin on Meet the Press.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/27/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 575 fans permalink
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Yeah, in the alternate universe..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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You should run him in 012. Start now, no need to say good night, just go get to work on his campaign !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/27/2009
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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Durbin holds elected office, despite his so called "toasting.­"

Newt, well he no longer has any power or authority. Not sure what that "toasting" gets him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/27/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 288 fans permalink
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No he didn't. Noot was sweating when Durbin asked him if he had a short memory as to when he called the NIA l!@rs. He thought he was going to bring up the fact that he was thrown out of Congress and the reasons why.

Everytime Noot opened his mouth he l!ed. He has a d!$ gr@ceful record and should not have any national air time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
- IDIOTA I'm a Fan of IDIOTA 56 fans permalink

Is this the same Noot who said that the solution to the problem of black overrepresentation in Georgia prisons was to stop tracking the race of prisoners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 05/28/2009
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I found these terrists_i­n_training just down the street!
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/monkey-bars-children-kids.jpg
If Dubya were still our Dear Leader, we could round them up and jail them before they get their hands on a n_u_k_e!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
- ladynaga I'm a Fan of ladynaga 540 fans permalink
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They look like future terrrist to me. Better round them up

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Ripe for torture Republicans would say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
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The thing is, its Obama' s watch now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
- TainoBoy I'm a Fan of TainoBoy 49 fans permalink
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Not yet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/27/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 257 fans permalink

duh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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Ha !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/27/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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SWINGERS!!!! clearly the dev!Is work

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/27/2009
- Atcha I'm a Fan of Atcha 3 fans permalink

There's an interview in the French paper "Le Monde" today of the one prisoner France has accepted to take, an Algerian who was locked up for seven years in Gitmo - he was flown to France a few days ago in shackles surrounded by 16 guards...t­oday he's walking free in the street of Paris, there was nothing in his file against him besides the fact that he had worked in Afghanistan, Yemen and Bosnia (where he was picked up).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/27/2009
- judyc I'm a Fan of judyc 87 fans permalink
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I think there are more like him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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I think if any repub read the Constitution they would start a petition to repeal it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/27/2009
- Heavy I'm a Fan of Heavy 236 fans permalink
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Wasn't that the patriot act?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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They didn't read that either, they just rubber stamped it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 05/27/2009
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This is not the smartest move people... it'll only make the Chinese more eager to aid terrorists under the table, if we're aiding their internal terrorists­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/27/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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Chinese ....aid terror!sts­..... *under* the table

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/27/2009
- Tundrapat I'm a Fan of Tundrapat 11 fans permalink

You mean, like supporting the North Korean regime?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/27/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 257 fans permalink

So it's better to keep innocent people locked up *just in case* it'll make the Chinese less likely to side against us? How would you feel if that were YOU in prison?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/27/2009
- GaBu2 I'm a Fan of GaBu2 53 fans permalink
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So are white people now under at t a c k by the residents?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/27/2009
- postman66 I'm a Fan of postman66 330 fans permalink
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In the movies white people are always under attack by somebody. Sometimes they are from other planets

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
- GaBu2 I'm a Fan of GaBu2 53 fans permalink
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Interesting that Aliens are mostly white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/27/2009
- Fightnmad I'm a Fan of Fightnmad 43 fans permalink
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Clearly, I've missed something here...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
- TainoBoy I'm a Fan of TainoBoy 49 fans permalink
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What's with the white bashing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
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Mars Attacks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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What a great movie, Country music does ki ll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

Everyday I reflect on how the gops nearly destroyed everything that made Americans proud. There are more messes to be mopped up everyday by the Obama administration. There is some damage that can never be undone. Instead of tro//s and faux outraged gops coming on this site knocking Obama and the Democrats, they should be hanging their heads in shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Conservatism is a criminal ideology that knows no limits, and no shame.

http://www.republicanoffenders.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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ha ha! I personally know someone on that list!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
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Bush could not have done what he did without the support of democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
- TainoBoy I'm a Fan of TainoBoy 49 fans permalink
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Very true, that's why we need a third major party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

F00lish comment. Many of the things they did were done in secret and through the use of li es. But, if blaming the Democrats makes you sleep better at night, go right ahead.
Wouldn't want your party to make you uncomfortable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 05/27/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 257 fans permalink

You again.

Sunshine, Bush did what he damned well pleased by ignoring the Constitution and rolling over anyone who opposed him. Were you asleep between January 2000 and January 2009?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 05/27/2009
- Ravyn I'm a Fan of Ravyn 4 fans permalink

What there should be is some repercussions for their actions. The Republicans wreck the US's international reputation, wreck the economy, endorse torture for the first time in over 200 years and although they loose the election because of it, they act like they're the injured party and won't shut up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/27/2009
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Sestak is going to challenge Specter. Barack and dem leaders have endorsed Specter for re-election in 2010. Now what?

Barack and his fellow Dems tried to rig the system, but Sestak said no way, I'm in. The entertainment value coming from the left is priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/27/2009
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If I lived in Pennsylvania, it would be no contest. Sestak all the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 05/27/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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But Sestak is annoying. You can't ask him a question without him reverting to memorized campaign sloganeering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/27/2009
- hilary916 I'm a Fan of hilary916 30 fans permalink
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I think most PA dems would want Sestak over Specter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

Truly, have you nothing better to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/27/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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love my president but i think that ..we should support joe sestak.... it's the right thing to do.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
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I like Specter, too--but I liked him more before the Annointment. I would not be surprised if the people of Pennsylvania voted Sestak in just for the principle of it. (P.S. I love my president, too.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 146 fans permalink

That is the nice thing about being a Democrat. We are allowed to form our own opinions and vote for whom we wish. The gop does not permit that among their members.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 05/27/2009
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Roland Burris is going to run in IL, they have him on tape with Blago's brother, and Burris is saying that he is innocent. Barack and his fellow Dems with another situation.

Reid, Pelosi, entertainment value abounds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 05/27/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 288 fans permalink
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How does PRESIDENT OBAMA have anything to do with Burris? If there had been anything there don't you think it would have already been exposed genius?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 05/27/2009
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