Dem Senators Open To Allowing Innocent Chinese Detainees To Live In U.S.

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First Posted: 05-27-09 04:45 PM   |   Updated: 05-27-09 07:52 PM

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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states.

But a group of 17 Chinese Muslims have been cleared by the Bush administration and aren't looking for a prison to lock them up -- they need a community to take them in.

The Huffington Post asked senators how they'd deal with what should be a simpler problem but politically could be more difficult: What about the Uighurs?

"This has just been such a horrible situation for these people," said Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the third-ranking Democrat. "They have been pilloried by people on the floor of the Senate, but most believe, most people I have heard from suggest that they should be returned, but the question is no one will take them."

Why won't we take them?

"I don't know. We may be in a position where that will be considered, but I leave that up to the administration. I just don't know," he said.

Several senators began answers with the premise that the Uighurs were not a threat, but transitioned while they spoke to keeping them in prison.

"I think anybody who is declared not to be a threat is not. We have plenty of places to hold people. We have maximum-security prisons that nobody is ever going to get out of. That's just a fact," said North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan.

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"There are going to be detainees that are not going to be able to be tried, for whatever reasons, and are going to have to be released. The question is where. And I think that's an issue that we need to talk about, because in some cases their native countries are not accepting them for whatever reasons. I think there are more options than just the United States, and I think we need to look at all the options," said Sen. Ben Cardin, a Democrat who represents Maryland, a state neighboring the Northern Virginia Uighur community that has volunteered to take them.

"I would not exclude the United States," said Cardin.

"I'm open to discussion on that. I don't know enough details to know," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

Sens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) are the leading Republican theorists on detention policy in the Senate. Both said the Uighur situation could only be resolved by the implementation of a comprehensive policy that covered all detainees.

"There's no policy. Again, we've got to have a policy," said McCain. "I'd be willing to negotiate with the White House to try to work out all these issues."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had taken a hard line on detainees earlier last week, saying that none could be transferred to the United States, not even to prisons. He dialed that back a bit in a recent interview with the Las Vegas Sun.

But the best he would do is say the Uighurs "probably" don't belong in maximum security prison.

"There's no question that a number of these people who are there are not guilty of anything. The Uighurs, these are a group of Muslim Chinese who are guilty of nothing. They were arrested, put in there. They are there. They are doing nothing. We're going to have to find someplace to put them. We can't send them back to China. Should they go into a maximum-security prison? Probably not," he said.

The Uighurs themselves aren't optimistic that they'll be released anytime soon, they told their translator recently. "If we are the innocent ones from day one -- and for the past six years, and the government knew we were innocent -- if we are still here, how he is going to deal with the 240 prisoners and shut down the base by next January?" their translator says they wonder. "They're a little bit skeptical about it actually happening."


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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states. But a gro...
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- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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Hmmm....six years...now ive heard about preventive detention but this is ridiculous..SH !T if they are innocent let them go...plus... i think that preventive detention is unconstitutional IMHO....
still..better late than never i guess....some kind of compensation is needed...Hmmm...i suggest a scholarship and financial compensation...accompanied with an apology....and people shoulden't be worried about bringing them into this country and releasing them......the reality is, that they will always be watched and monitored ..its a stigma that they will carry with them forever even though they are innocent .... sh t

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/27/2009
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"the reality is, that they will always be watched and monitored"

So they're going to become Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 05/27/2009
- IDIOTA I'm a Fan of IDIOTA 61 fans permalink

Is there a public list of Gitmo detainees? How many around the world of in detention on behalf of the US, and who are they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/27/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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ummm....well,that's beyond my humble knowledge ...LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 660 fans permalink
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What would be on the menu in all white America ?

Meat Loaf, Mac'n Cheese , Wonder Bread, PB & J's ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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RC an' a moonpie

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
- ShawnHanks I'm a Fan of ShawnHanks 152 fans permalink
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Cheeseburgers and of course, Freedom Fries. Lord, must we keep reminding you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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Miracle Whip and Wonder Bread are staples on the GOP table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
- hilary916 I'm a Fan of hilary916 36 fans permalink
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freedom fries

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/27/2009
- adey I'm a Fan of adey 228 fans permalink
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Chicken fried steak. Biscuits and gravy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/27/2009
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"Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed."
-Mark Twain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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And well educated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
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Twain did not say that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/27/2009
- Tundrapat I'm a Fan of Tundrapat 11 fans permalink

"Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana."
- Anonymous

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/27/2009
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 80 fans permalink

Wow! That is do DEEP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 05/27/2009
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 80 fans permalink

Started to change the "do" DEEP to "so" DEEP. But I actually think the "do" works better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 05/27/2009
- nichtviel I'm a Fan of nichtviel 4 fans permalink

Let's modify our immigration standards and give preference to Muslim's who've attended terrorist training camps. Let's change America's culture to be more inclusive. Let's include all Americans in the Muslim violence and hatred being practiced in Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, India, Turkey, Greece and a host of other countries. Let's let Harry Reid determine our future. Or, better yet, let's put Harry Reid in prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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On December 1, 2005, Yoo appeared in a debate in Chicago with University of Notre Dame professor Doug Cassel. During the debate Cassel asked Yoo, "If the president deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?", to which Yoo replied "No treaty." Cassel followed up with "Also no law by Congress -- that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo...", to which Yoo replied "I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo

http://washingtonindependent.com/15946/mccain-camp-buses-in-4000-kids-for-ohio-rally

http://www.armchairsubversive.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/27/2009

"If the President does it, it's not illegal."
-RMN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/27/2009
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please try not to confuse Islamism (radical political Islam) with Islam or M.uslims

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 05/27/2009
- nichtviel I'm a Fan of nichtviel 4 fans permalink

One seems to willingly produce the other doesn't it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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He just wants to go on a global torture tour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/27/2009
- nichtviel I'm a Fan of nichtviel 4 fans permalink

Today: DALLAS — Two founding members of what was once the nation's largest Muslim charity were each sentenced to 65 years in prison Wednesday for funding Muslim terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 05/27/2009
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 80 fans permalink

An example of sarcasm that just doesn't work. We Americans are perfectly capable of practicing our own forms of violence and hatred, thank you very much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/27/2009
- exile I'm a Fan of exile 6 fans permalink

i hate to be mean...

but, really, how the f much longer can we afford to take in everybody

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/27/2009
- hilary916 I'm a Fan of hilary916 36 fans permalink
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Longer than we can keep innocent people detained.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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or do u mean to be hate...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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complain, complain, complain. Look at Bangladesh! We're just getting started. More NASCAR fans than ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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Forever, mean person. We have unlimited resources here for free stuff for everyone. All we have to do is roll back Bush's tax cuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
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Bonus Points. We can't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/27/2009
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How you say "Uighur"? Does it rhyme with 'eager'? or boo ger?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/27/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/27/2009
- Heavy I'm a Fan of Heavy 245 fans permalink
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weeger

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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That sounds like an initiation prank gone wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/27/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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[wee-goor]

noun. a member of a Turkish people dominant in Mongolia and eastern Turkestan from the 8th to 12th centuries a.d., and now living mainly in western China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/27/2009
- Beowoof I'm a Fan of Beowoof 10 fans permalink

If you're one of thoes that that believes that "innocent muslims" is an oxymoron you probably have no problem with them being locked up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
- YEHWEH I'm a Fan of YEHWEH 136 fans permalink
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Let innocent people out of prison?! Sir, this is America. We don't do that here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 660 fans permalink
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"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free ! "

Yikes, where did that come from ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
- adey I'm a Fan of adey 228 fans permalink
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DamLibruls, from the sound of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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In a day before we had a nanny state, and 304,059,724 people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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Sign over a GOP detention camp... Just like the ones in Germany in the good old days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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Barack's closing of Gitmo without a plan for what to do with the detainees is a good example of leaping before you look.

I hope he has learned his lesson. Don't make snap decisions just to please your dwindling left loon base.

The far left are a strange group, and should be viewed as entertainment and nothing more.

They give me the heebies. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/27/2009
- ShawnHanks I'm a Fan of ShawnHanks 152 fans permalink
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A never ending source of entertainment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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Please don't confuse the Israel-hating leftists with the rest of us liberals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 05/27/2009
- adey I'm a Fan of adey 228 fans permalink
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Them folk don't look like us'ns. They gives me the fears somethin' arful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/27/2009
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 660 fans permalink
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Great pic adey , yee haw !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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But Tim McVeigh is your hero...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- Tundrapat I'm a Fan of Tundrapat 11 fans permalink

Nothing to see here. Moving on...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Kinda like your party nominating Sarah PaIin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 242 fans permalink
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Be nice to your neighbors--they could be future terrorrristsss, it's up to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/27/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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be nice to terohwrists ----they could be ur future neighbors, if theyr repubs., you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 242 fans permalink
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Ha, ya got me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/27/2009
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A modern internment "camp." The more things change the more they stay the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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You have to back to FDR and the camps for Japanese-Americans if I'm not mistaken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
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Yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/27/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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jebus camp?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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Yup... But they did not torture them now did they?

And internment was wrong then, just as it is wrong now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 05/27/2009
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Will they still be detainees when they are imprisoned on American soil? That is, won't they get lawyers who can file for discovery and expose all sorts of hanky-panky? We'll have to declare a lawyer-free zone too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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They have been cleared, they should not need lawyers or anything except some sort of life back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
- NWRICK I'm a Fan of NWRICK 316 fans permalink
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These are some of what makes it such a tough problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/27/2009
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 295 fans permalink
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If they are innocent what does it matter where in the US they live? I live in San Francisco, let them come here ... as long as they aren't Republicans I don't mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/27/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 246 fans permalink
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Touche'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 05/27/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 47 fans permalink

It's a darn good thing we have this and the supreme court justice nimination to distract us. Otherwise we'd have to pay attention to the fact that Kim Jong Il is thumbing his nose at our wuss in chief.
What to do about that? China (who could do something about it)--well we have no leverage with them now that they own us (thanks to Mr. Obama putting us into their debt for generations to come).
I guess Hillary will just have to wag her finger harder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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Start digging a Cheney bunker in your back yard, and until you have the hole deep enough to vanish into, seal your house with plastic sheet and duct tape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/27/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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ur stepsister broke up with you and your all bummed out...again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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In a fair and just world where anyone in love could marry, they would be husband and wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 05/27/2009
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This is how ilttle anitbodies latch onto evil invading pesticules in the bloodstream. Also on Raquel Welch back when I wanted to be an antibody really bad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/27/2009
- dwright I'm a Fan of dwright 313 fans permalink
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teleprompter *spellcheck*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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The Chinese have been supporting our debt for a while. You can't lay all that on Obama, although he is making it worse. My thought would be for the US to pull all our troops out of S Korea. Let the S Korean, Japan, and China deal with the crazies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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Rumpie I like that idea. We would have to wait and let the Japanese properly re-arm of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/27/2009
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

It is hard to imagine how someone is incapable of understanding the reprecussions of a nuclear bo m b being detonated into the atmosphere rather it is in South Korea, Japan, China, or right here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/27/2009
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You better get over there and do something quick, since our troops are over stretched already.

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