Dem Senators Open To Allowing Innocent Chinese Detainees To Live In U.S.

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First Posted: 05-27-09 04:45 PM   |   Updated: 05-27-09 07:52 PM

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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states.

But a group of 17 Chinese Muslims have been cleared by the Bush administration and aren't looking for a prison to lock them up -- they need a community to take them in.

The Huffington Post asked senators how they'd deal with what should be a simpler problem but politically could be more difficult: What about the Uighurs?

"This has just been such a horrible situation for these people," said Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), the third-ranking Democrat. "They have been pilloried by people on the floor of the Senate, but most believe, most people I have heard from suggest that they should be returned, but the question is no one will take them."

Why won't we take them?

"I don't know. We may be in a position where that will be considered, but I leave that up to the administration. I just don't know," he said.

Several senators began answers with the premise that the Uighurs were not a threat, but transitioned while they spoke to keeping them in prison.

"I think anybody who is declared not to be a threat is not. We have plenty of places to hold people. We have maximum-security prisons that nobody is ever going to get out of. That's just a fact," said North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan.

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"There are going to be detainees that are not going to be able to be tried, for whatever reasons, and are going to have to be released. The question is where. And I think that's an issue that we need to talk about, because in some cases their native countries are not accepting them for whatever reasons. I think there are more options than just the United States, and I think we need to look at all the options," said Sen. Ben Cardin, a Democrat who represents Maryland, a state neighboring the Northern Virginia Uighur community that has volunteered to take them.

"I would not exclude the United States," said Cardin.

"I'm open to discussion on that. I don't know enough details to know," said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

Sens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) are the leading Republican theorists on detention policy in the Senate. Both said the Uighur situation could only be resolved by the implementation of a comprehensive policy that covered all detainees.

"There's no policy. Again, we've got to have a policy," said McCain. "I'd be willing to negotiate with the White House to try to work out all these issues."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had taken a hard line on detainees earlier last week, saying that none could be transferred to the United States, not even to prisons. He dialed that back a bit in a recent interview with the Las Vegas Sun.

But the best he would do is say the Uighurs "probably" don't belong in maximum security prison.

"There's no question that a number of these people who are there are not guilty of anything. The Uighurs, these are a group of Muslim Chinese who are guilty of nothing. They were arrested, put in there. They are there. They are doing nothing. We're going to have to find someplace to put them. We can't send them back to China. Should they go into a maximum-security prison? Probably not," he said.

The Uighurs themselves aren't optimistic that they'll be released anytime soon, they told their translator recently. "If we are the innocent ones from day one -- and for the past six years, and the government knew we were innocent -- if we are still here, how he is going to deal with the 240 prisoners and shut down the base by next January?" their translator says they wonder. "They're a little bit skeptical about it actually happening."


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Members of Congress from both parties have been climbing over each other lately to be the most forceful opponent of transferring Guantanamo Bay detainees to prisons in their home states. But a gro...
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If you'd like to read a bit about the Uyghur people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/27/2009
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6DLGShOnEg

Glorifying violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 05/27/2009
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their gonna be a quiz...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 05/27/2009
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For you, yes. And spelling counts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/27/2009
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How do you pronounce Uighur? Does it rhyme with eager or booger?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/27/2009

I wonder why China won't take them back?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/27/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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They are an oppressed minority there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/27/2009

...They have more rights there than in the US

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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Like g@ys in California!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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They were getting some training on how to, how can I say this nicely, over throw the gov.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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they lost their receipts.. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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It's not that China won't take them, it's they don't want to go back for fear of execution

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
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I thought that China wanted to take them back, with open arms and gallows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/27/2009
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China isn't fond of people of any religion. They even persecute the Falun Gong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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We must need some railroads built!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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laundries also...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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Ah the good old days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 05/27/2009
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Green jobs. Rickshaw businesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/27/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1594 fans permalink
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The Land of the Brave is scared sh*tless of 17 Uighurs.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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Isn't it the Home of the brave and the land of the free anymore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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What color are they? I hope they are all white, conservative males.

They are the purest of all the people in all of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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As I understand it, they are sort of half white.
http://homepages.utoledo.edu/nlight/uyghpg.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/27/2009
- nichtviel I'm a Fan of nichtviel 4 fans permalink

What they're scared of is id.io.ts like Harry Reid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 05/27/2009
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How about we give them some real hope and provide them with a Chinese laundry to run.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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Really Shawn? Is it really necessary to be that .... ig.nor.ant­? These are fellow human beings you know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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You would rather give them welfare than a profession?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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More "compassionate" conservatism on display...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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ur obviously an errand boy, so, apply...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/27/2009
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Sarcasm, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 05/27/2009
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The Democratic Senators are all turning into weasels and behave as ignorant as Republican Senators. Each day it becomes harder to remain a Democrat and more and more all senators look and behave like members of one big intellectually lazy and cowardly party, who are more interested in keeping their jobs than doing their jobs. Why did we even fight for these guys. It makes you want to throw up (on them) .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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We know we have some problem Dems, but unlike the Republican party, the Democrats are not completely corrupt.

Before I am willing to open up on my own party, and I am willing, I need to see the back of the Republican rump broken first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 05/27/2009
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They just voted 94-6 to keep Gitmo open, and now a week later the US is going to give citizenship to 17 alleged terrorists.

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Really?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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he says that all the time though!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/27/2009
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trasnperancy from a repub, who knew...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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You don't say...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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how true.

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That's a scary avitar by gawd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/27/2009
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Where do the Chinese Muslims want to go? Why would they want to be here? I would be bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/27/2009
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make lemonade..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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I didn't say sour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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Seriously, though, how could they ever trust our government after it imprisoned or tortured them?

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Tibet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/27/2009
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surely you just :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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Send them to SF It has a large Chinese community and am sure the would be welcomed by open arm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/27/2009
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Doubt it. Same ones that do not like them in China will not like them in SF.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 05/27/2009
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There are small communities in the United States, mainly in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York City and Washington, DC, as well as Toronto and Vancouver in Canada.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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or we could send them to prison here and u could welcome them.

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If they do a good job mowing lawns no repub will object to them in their neighborhood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 05/27/2009
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Good point. But only as long as they don't have to see them or, god forbid, touch them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 05/27/2009
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Why don't you folks offer them asylum? Its the right thing to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 05/27/2009
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the kids will have real role models to look up to and also there too...

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If they do a good job mowing lawns....

But then what would Huckabee's five cowardly sons do?

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Joe Biden is vice president.

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It is Mittens that has the 5-6 sons

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/27/2009
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Maybe they can cook.

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The laundry not the yard work. We have the mexicans do the yard work and the liberal nutr00ts clean our toilets.

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A look at a photo of the Gitmo Chinese Uyghurs will show they where their pants the same way.

A look at the clothing of the fighters gives a good indication of the identity of the fighters, an expert on al Qaeda told The Long War Journal. The length of the pants of pictured fighters is described as being at "al Qaeda height" -- meaning only al Qaeda and allied "Wahhabi/S­alafi-jiha­dis" wear their pant legs this high.



Read more: "Al Qaeda's paramilitary 'Shadow Army' - The Long War Journal" - http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/02/al_qaedas_paramilita.php#ixzz0Gl5fWPPu&A

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any video of jebuss ?

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Riding a dinosaur? Me, too.

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More right-wing pa.ranoia.­..
No one is going to click your stupid links, Ru$h Blimpbaugh­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 05/27/2009
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Hey don't confuse the folks on the board with actual facts. These are innocent detainees and need to be in somebody's suburb here in the US including possibly La Jolla.

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AND PS (I never thought I would say this!)

I MISS THALIA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 05/27/2009
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Yes, but does she miss you?

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Ten years from now....."A­nd PS"

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Me too.

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Hmmmmmmm..­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 05/27/2009
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What about black men we put in prison for years even when they are innocent, do we provide them with a home and money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/27/2009
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We should.

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I agree, after all they are US citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 05/27/2009
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WE LET THEM GO.

And who is saying we need to buy them homes and give them money?

just stop it taino.....

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We can let those gitmo innocent prisoners go too. We don't need to bring them here in the US.

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In Illinois the number of innocent men of color incarcerated and being released on DNA became so alarming that former Gov. Ryan started a truth commission. The results were so staggering that Gov, Ryan released all men from Death Row. Some later got out and received compensation.

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