Ex-CIA Agent: CIA Probably Misled Pelosi

First Posted: 05-27-09 10:24 AM   |   Updated: 06-27-09 05:12 AM

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Ishmael Jones, the pseudonym of a former CIA agent who has been critical of the agency, thinks Nancy Pelosi may have been right when she claimed the CIA misled her on interrogation briefings. [...]

"In Mrs. Pelosi's defense, CIA managers do not give fist-pounding briefings. They mumble, they dissemble, and there's a lot of "on the one hand . . ." Its enormous numbers of employees have led to briefings being handled by groups, with vague chains of command, so that it may have been difficult to pin down what was said, when it was said, and who was in charge."

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Ishmael Jones, the pseudonym of a former CIA agent who has been critical of the agency, thinks Nancy Pelosi may have been right when she claimed the CIA misled her on interrogation briefings. [...] ...
Ishmael Jones, the pseudonym of a former CIA agent who has been critical of the agency, thinks Nancy Pelosi may have been right when she claimed the CIA misled her on interrogation briefings. [...] ...
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mick7191   09:08 AM on 5/28/2009
That is, SHE is not lying.
mike42nola   10:50 AM on 5/28/2009
I have never read an article trying to pass itself off as news as poorly written and less factually based than this article.
I would expect this type of excuse to be made up by a young teenager who got caught doing something they knew was wrong and told their parents that they didn't understand the instructions because they were mumbled.
I have sat in on many briefings with various government agencies and someone as powerful even as the minority house leader has plenty of opportunities to ask questions.
Maybe Nancy confused the briefing with the DADT rule. NOT.
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madisonhack   07:54 PM on 5/28/2009
Try to keep the focus on who ordered the torture, FIRST, and then we'll move on to the peons that may have known about it but were powerless to do anything to stop it.

I say, jail Bush and Cheney until it's sorted out.
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mick7191   09:08 AM on 5/28/2009
he is not lying.
wsblake   08:00 AM on 5/28/2009
Wear a sweater Nancy. You spend tens of thousands on face lifts and your neck looks like a snapping turtle's.
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mick7191   08:30 AM on 5/28/2009
I'd do her.
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madisonhack   07:55 PM on 5/28/2009
Would you say that to your grandmother? How about your mother?
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flossophy   05:50 AM on 5/28/2009
HuffPuff covering Pelosi's nip tuck.
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petera63   02:27 AM on 5/28/2009
Another ex-CIA agent: Pelosi most probably lied to save her arrs.
Theo67   02:22 AM on 5/28/2009
I can't believe we're still talking about this! The CIA are the geniuses who came up with the "intelligence" of WMD in Iraq. That should be all we need to know. They are also being "defended" by Cheney, even after he outed one of their own. This is disgusting. Pelosi is not the criminal here. She may be guilty of keeping her mouth shut against the Cheney regime - but it was awfully quiet during this time - I didn't hear a lot of people screaming in the wilderness. Even Powell was cowed into telling dubious stories to the UN. So, we need to focus our disdain back on Cheney and the gang. That's where the real revulsion is deserved.
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Eris23Skidoo   06:44 PM on 5/29/2009
Very true. The CIA needs purged, and how.
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otop016   09:55 PM on 5/27/2009
Yeah right...you can always find a mark to do your bidding...too little, too late. Pelosi still looks horrible on this issue...
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BigAl72   10:04 PM on 5/27/2009
I'll have to disagree. Pelosi stood her ground and was a victim of the Bush - Tenet CIA push for war in Iraq.
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otop016   10:08 PM on 5/27/2009
A victim? Are you for real? It can be argued that Pelosi is many things, but 'victim' is not one of them...
mike42nola   11:59 AM on 5/28/2009
Explain to me exactly how "she stood her ground". I couldn't disagree with you more about this issue. She was in cahoots with this entire ordeal and got caught playing partisan politics one too many times and now is hiding out in the shadows.
She will never retain the Speakers position nor should she.
She is weak, divisive and bad for the country.
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brandnewstuff   08:13 PM on 5/27/2009
A petition for the office of Steny Hoyer - special prosecutor! Push Push Push to rule of laws
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damilitantone   08:10 PM on 5/27/2009
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felisa11   07:28 PM on 5/27/2009
Of course the CIA lie and deceive. Where was this guy two weeks ago, though?
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Egalitare   06:31 AM on 5/28/2009
Ethiopia, and we're not a liberty to say why....
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prettyinpink   07:25 PM on 5/27/2009
Nancy is running for cover on this. She is either a liar or ignorant.

This should make the next primary really interesting. Of course her district is so far left that Cindy Sheehan was a viable candidate.

What a bunch of hippicrates -when it was about Valerie Plume the CIA was all knowing and the most honest agency. Now, they lie and mislead. You really can not have it both ways-which is it?
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Weirdwriter   01:22 AM on 5/28/2009
yawn...
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GiveUsFree   01:22 AM on 5/28/2009
What - in the hell - are you talking about?
mike42nola   12:04 PM on 5/28/2009
I actually may prefer Cindy Sheehan as a replacement for Nancy's house seat. At least Sheehan has principles that she sticks to and isn't just out for herself.
learneddemocrat   07:13 PM on 5/27/2009
I can't believe you guys! Did you not listen to Pelosi's new conferences? She could not keep her story straight, each one totally different than the others. Then suddenly she says nothing. Do you think someone told her to just shut up. Yep, I do. And now magically this guy shows up, a pseudonym!?! How could every other person involved in those breifings know about waterboarding, but poor little Nancy had no idea what was going on? Again, a pseudonym? Are you so gullible, so desperate, that you will believe anything you read, yet ignore what you heard? She screwed up. She needs to admit it and move along. It would be so much better for our party if she just quietly rode her private jet into the sunset. She has lost so much credibilty because of this. Bye, Nancy.
darthmaul   07:59 PM on 5/27/2009
I can't believe you didn't listen to Senator Bob Grahm

"Former Sen.(D)Bob Graham, the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee told David Shuster that he never was briefed about waterboarding by the CIA on MSNBC. He also said that he was never allowed to take real notes about the CIA briefings, but he did log the topics and the amount of times he was briefed. They don't match up with the CIA's version....David, when I was briefed about three weeks after The Speaker, the subject "waterboarding" never came up. Nor did the treatment of Abu-Zubaydah or any other specific detainee."

As it turns out Grahm keeps meticulous notes and he turned out to be right while the CIA had to admit it was "mistaken."
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thaneb   09:51 PM on 5/27/2009
For one calling self "learneddem" surprising your pushing the debunked "private jet" meme of the right. Being stuck in the past will do your credibility no good.
Theo67   02:24 AM on 5/28/2009
Speaker Pelosi has pushed President Obama's agenda through the House, and for that, I support her.
whitehawk   07:11 PM on 5/27/2009
Have you noticed many countries still engaged in Afghansitan? Canada has never sent troops to Iraq, not one. Why?? We know American Republicans love War, whether pre-emptive or not. That is a large employment factor for them, might as well kill people insteading of standing around back home.....Cheney thinks!!! But, the same people in U.S. keep doing this for profit, ridiculous.
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annecros   07:25 PM on 5/27/2009
Umm, let's talk about FDR, and how he really got people back to work. Enough blame to go around and around.

Get over the partisanship, and maybe somebody, somewhere, will take you seriously.
mike42nola   12:06 PM on 5/28/2009
Thank you for seeing through the biased, partisan hate filled rhetoric that does absolutely nothing to resolve the real issues we should be working on TOGETHER to resolve.
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madisonhack   08:02 PM on 5/28/2009
Are you implying that FDR started WWII? If so, move on over to the people that are still asking for Obama's birth certificate. Certifiable nut cases.
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Eris23Skidoo   07:25 PM on 5/29/2009
FDR didn't need a war to get people back to work. For that he used socialist, yes socialist, programs like the WPA that employed millions. He would have got our economy going again, war or no war.
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SuzyQ08   07:11 PM on 5/27/2009
I wonder how Repubs will spin this one.
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landstar   01:16 AM on 5/28/2009
No need...Nancy does a splendid job sola!
tippydog11   07:04 PM on 5/27/2009
That is why 27 nations all left Iraq, knew they were all deceived and lied to...they were fighting the "wrong" war, in the "war country", "wrong enemy" of 911..not going to lose one more soldier, that is why today no nation will help us in Afgan Pakis...were lied to...

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