Bush Defends Torture: "The Information We Got Saved Lives"

CNN:

Former President George W. Bush on Thursday repeated Dick Cheney's assertion that their enhanced interrogation program was legal and garnered valuable information that prevented future terrorist attacks.

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Comments

[lydia]

06:40 AM on 05/30/2009

So much for an advanced civilizati­on. The people committing these atrocities had mothers and fathers etc. How could Americans have sunk to such level of depravity? The US is single handedly responsibl­e for this breed of feral perverted subspecies we have foisted on the people of the ME.

[McFlipFlop]

05:05 PM on 05/29/2009

Great pic of the moran.

[John Shupe]

04:50 PM on 05/29/2009

Still there is allot that this country has and is still doing to what they want where ever they want too in order to obtain informatio­n. There is no limit too there boundless interests, Sure we can speak out and make claims about what is going on with detainees treatment that are connected to war activity that are not inside this country. But look into what is already here at our doorsteps in the country, much worse in my opinion. Im not just talking about the interests of people of power.

[trollslayer]

04:25 PM on 05/29/2009

restorethe­roar

sarcastic about what? the fact that i agree with BO when detaining people, who want to kiII us, indefinate­ly?

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How the heII do YOU know they want to kiII us? They've had no trial. Nothing has been proven. Most were just rounded up in another country and brought here with no real evidence of any crime.

If another country invaded the U.S. and you just happened to be in the neighborho­od were there was fighting and then the invader captured you, took you to their country, imprisoned you without a trial, tor.tured you, and then decided never to let you go or give you a fair trial, you'd be fine with THAT?

You'd think that's OK?

Because THAT'S what happened.

Militarily we had NO business capturing people and ferr.eting them around the world to be tor.tured (extraordi­nary ren.dition­) and keeping them imprisoned indefinite­ly without a trial - all the while - subjecting them to inhumane treatment. This is morally reprehensi­ble. Anybody that thinks this is acceptable is truly a victim of propa.gand­a. Americans who condone this (under Obama or anyone else) si.cken me.

[trollslayer]

04:41 PM on 05/29/2009

Sorry for the double post. The first one didn't go through immediatel­y because of the "bad" words.

[trollslayer]

04:23 PM on 05/29/2009

restorethe­roar posted
sarcastic about what? the fact that i agree with BO when detaining people, who want to kill us, indefinate­ly?
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How the heII do YOU know they want to kiII us? They've had no trial. Nothing has been proven. Most were just rounded up in another country and brought here with no real evidence of any crime.

If another country invaded the U.S. and you just happened to be in the neighborho­od were there was fighting and then the invader captured you, took you to their country, imprisoned you without a trial, tortured you, and then decided never to let you go or give you a fair trial, you'd be fine with THAT?

You'd think that's OK?

Because THAT'S what happened.

Militarily we had NO business capturing people and ferreting them around the world to be tortured (extraordi­nary rendition) and keeping them imprisoned indefinite­ly without a trial - all the while - subjecting them to inhumane treatment. This is morally reprehensi­ble. Anybody that thinks this is acceptable is truly a victim of propaganda­. Americans who condone this (under Obama or anyone else) sicken me.

[LatteLibertine]

04:22 PM on 05/29/2009

Oh please no. Not Dub-yah too. It's bad enough with deferring Dick on my TV each day.

[Marnie1]

04:18 PM on 05/29/2009

Wouldn't keeping quiet be better for his "legacy" that continuing to lie, when everybody knows he's lying. You'd think he and Chaney would want the issue to disappear.

[VPN]

04:35 PM on 05/29/2009

They are/were so arrogant that they still think that by lying more they can somehow keep from being held accountabl­e.

[LB14]

04:10 PM on 05/29/2009

please go away Bush. WHO CARES about Bush or what he has to say? He is IRRELEVANT­. This country is moving forward. All of that **** is in the rear view mirror, let's not go backwards.

[VPN]

04:42 PM on 05/29/2009

Irrelevant but NOT going to escape answering for their lawlessnes­s. BTW, this Country can't move past their crimes and hold our heads high ever again if we don't put out the effort to show the world that NO we don't torture and we won't tolerate anyone dong so in our name regardless of how high up in Government they are.

[sviolette]

03:57 PM on 05/29/2009

From Carl Levin:

Levin’s comments are highly newsworthy because they give us the most detailed picture yet of what’s in the documents Cheney wants. You can watch Levin’s speech right here at TPM. This is what Levin said about the documents:

Mr. Cheney has also claimed that the release of classified documents would prove his view that the techniques worked. But those classified documents say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisitio­n of valuable intelligen­ce to the use of the abusive techniques­. I hope that the documents are declassifi­ed so that people can judge for themselves what is fact and what is fiction.

[viper234]

04:21 PM on 05/29/2009

Torture is illegal, a war crime. Cheney and others in the US government must answer to the rule of law. What is it about the rule of law that people either want to deny or do not understand­?

[JohnHKennedy]

03:37 PM on 05/29/2009

What don't voters understand­. Torture is a Federal Crime.

There is no debate of using it, Ever!

Obama must enforce our Federal Torture Law. That is th only thing that will stop it for the future.

SIGN THE PETITION To Prosecute Them For Torture

http://ANG­RYVOTERS.O­RG

Over 250,000 have signed
Join them and call yourself a Patriot
.

[sviolette]

03:41 PM on 05/29/2009

I signed it.

[serialcoma]

03:56 PM on 05/29/2009

"Obama must enforce our Federal Torture Law. "

Slight correction­... the Dept of Justice must enforce our Federal Torture Law. President Obama has repeatedly stated that is their job and he is willing to let them move forward when they are ready to do so. For the President to jump in and demand action on this from the DoJ would put his actions on a par with gwb's in that he would be attempting to direct a Branch of government that is not his to direct.

[sviolette]

03:30 PM on 05/29/2009

How did raping women and children save lives? Obama you must release the photos so we can see for ourselves what we did (or still doing?) to these people.

[jmpurser]

03:30 PM on 05/29/2009

Agreed. It's the law. It's President Obama's word. And it's past time.

[DaveyDavey]

03:27 PM on 05/29/2009

The caption for this photo:

"From the sublime to the ridiculous­."

[Forester]

03:37 PM on 05/29/2009

I thought: devo

[DaveyDavey]

03:38 PM on 05/29/2009

The de-evoluti­on of man, yes. But now it's documented­.

[MaidinMossyCreek]

03:25 PM on 05/29/2009

With Bush, you know what you got. With Barack, not so much.

[DaveyDavey]

03:35 PM on 05/29/2009

With Bush, we got an ıdıot. With Obama, not so much.

[trollslayer]

04:09 PM on 05/29/2009

LMAO!

Touché!

[sviolette]

04:04 PM on 05/29/2009

Yes, we got torture. We got the worst president ever. We got Dicked by Cheney.

[ObamAtomic]

03:16 PM on 05/29/2009

Be hopeful: Judiciary Democrats Call for Special Counsel on Torture The signatorie­s include: Rep. John Conyers, Jr., Chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Chairman, Subcommitt­ee on the Constituti­on, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Rep. Robert Scott, Chairman, Subcommitt­ee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security Rep. Steve Cohen, Chairman, Subcommitt­ee on Commercial and Administra­tive Law Rep. Hank Johnson, Chairman, Subcommitt­ee on Courts and Competitio­n Policy Rep. Mel Watt Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Rep. Maxine Waters Rep. Robert Wexler Rep. Pedro Pierluisi Rep. Luis Gutierrez Rep. Tammy Baldwin Rep. Anthony Weiner Rep. Linda Sánchez Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz Rep. Daniel Maffei

[restoretheroar]

03:21 PM on 05/29/2009

is indefinite detention considered torture?

[Forester]

03:25 PM on 05/29/2009

Read up roar, then you won't need to ask:

http://www­.globalsec­urity.org/­intell/lib­rary/polic­y/army/fm/­fm34-52/ch­apter1.htm

[sviolette]

03:40 PM on 05/29/2009

No it's not torture but it's still illegal.

[sviolette]

03:39 PM on 05/29/2009

Where did you get this info?

[Defunct]

03:16 PM on 05/29/2009

He fails to mention how many lives have been killed or displaced as a result of his actions.

[sviolette]

03:33 PM on 05/29/2009

Or how many people were raped.