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Nelson Now Open To Public Health Care, Baucus Will Fight For It

First Posted: 06/28/09 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:25 PM ET

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The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead health care negotiator, is "fighting tooth and nail to include that in any final deal," his chief of staff John Selib said at a town hall meeting in Montana, according to the Billings Gazette.

Meanwhile, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) backed off his opposition to a public option in a meeting with health care advocates on Wednesday in Nebraska.

Nelson, according to three people in the room, told the group that he was open to a public option, the primary Democratic goal of reform and anathema to conservatives.

"The good news for all sides involved is that he's open minded," said Barry Rubin, the former Executive Director for the Nebraska Democratic Party, who was in the meeting. "He's not closed minded about a public option."

Jane Kleeb, a top Democratic powerbroker in Nebraska, said Nelson's openness to a public option was the biggest takeaway from the meeting.

"He made it clear that he is open to the public option. That's not a line in the sand where he says it must be off the table for him to move forward on health care reform," she said.

Nebraska pediatrician Thomas Tonniges, also in the meeting, concurred. "My understanding was he felt all good ideas should be considered," he said. "He certainly has been supportive of S-CHIP" -- the federally-funded state children's health insurance program. chip...more children having health insurance, just seemed to be very open to any ideas we had.

The meeting included representatives of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees; Service Employees International Union; AARP; the American Cancer Society; the reform coalition Healthcare for America NOW! (HCAN) and the Center for Rural Affairs.

A spokesman for Nelson confirmed the meeting but would only say that he is listening to health care concerns from constituents all this week in Nebraska.

Nelson had previously told CQ that a public option was a "deal breaker." Nelson said that he planned to organization a coalition of Democratic senators to oppose a public option. The coalition never materialized.

Nelson softened that opposition in a subsequent interview with the Huffington Post. He said he would "continue to talk" to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) who'd offered a compromise public option that was unsubsidized and had to follow the same rules private plans do.

But he stopped short of saying he was open to it.

"I'm open to listening to him explain to me how this would work," he said.

Rubin said the meeting with Nelson involved a "very substantive, pragmatic conversation about where we go from here."

Nelson "believes in what President Obama campaigned on, that everybody should have the same access that members of Congress have, the same quality of care that members of congress have," said Rubin. "Moving forward, the question is how do you get from point A to point B."

Kleeb, representing SEIU, remembers the conversation similarly.

"He said he's continuing to support what President Obama said on the campaign trail, which is that everyone should be covered by insurance, and that folks who like their insurance can keep it, but that we have to get everybody covered," she said.

"Senator Nelson will do the right thing on health care," she added. "Nelson, while he may not be a perfect progressive senator, he is good for Nebraska."

On Thursday, a progressive organization launched an attack on Nelson in Nebraska for opposing the public plan. The campaign, run by Change Congress, emphasizes the millions in campaign contributions Nelson has taken from the insurance industry.

The campaign calls on Nebraskans to sign a petition calling for Nelson to back a public plan and to pledge not to donate money to him unless he forswears special-interest contributions.

"We want to make sure Ben Nelson knows that some of his local fundraising support will dry up if he doesn't take a stand against special interests," said Adam Green of Change Congress.

Kleeb and Rubin dismissed the campaign, both noting that Omaha is the national headquarters of the insurance industry. Both made the same analogy, that refusing insurance money in Nebraska would be like turning down auto-industry money in Michigan or orange juice money in Florida.

Green, however, isn't backing off.

"Saying in private that he's 'open' to a public option gets Nelson back to where he was before publicly opposing the President's plan and getting called out for taking millions from health and insurance interests who feel threatened by competition. If Nelson's truly willing to take on special interests, he should firmly support the public option and co-sponsor Sen. [Dick] Durbin's [D-Ill.] Fair Elections Now Act." he said.

The attack on Nelson got his attention. He responded within hours of the campaign launch with an assertive rebuke:

NELSON: NEBRASKANS BEWARE OF MISLEADING FUNDRAISING GIMMICK

May 28, 2009 - The office of Nebraska's Senator Ben Nelson today warned Nebraskans not to fall for a misleading fundraising gimmick by a special interest group called Change Congress. The group has issued a press release concerning Senator Nelson and said it was sending mailers to Nebraskans.

Senator Nelson's spokesman Jake Thompson issued this statement:

"There's no doubt Senator Nelson understands the insurance industry's important role providing health care for millions of Americans. After all, he's been an insurance executive, an insurance industry regulator, a governor who created a children's health insurance program, and today he represents Nebraska, arguably the insurance capital of the world.

"But let's look at this group closely. They claim, 'Ben Nelson said he may not support Obama's plan.' Can they send us a copy of the plan? No, because President Obama hasn't offered a specific plan yet. Next, they ask if people are ready to change Congress and 'take on special interests' and 'only donate to politicians who prove they are willing to do that.' Then, they promote an election law proposal they're lobbying for.

"So, let's get this straight: These people are endorsing something they haven't seen, criticizing Senator Nelson for something he hasn't done and using health care as a fundraising gimmick--to lobby for unrelated special interest legislation. These people have a political agenda that has nothing remotely to do with helping Nebraskans get and keep affordable, high quality health care. Their effort is silly, sad and sophomoric.

"Nebraskans are far too smart to fall for just another special interest group grabbing a hot issue and misrepresenting both the president and Senator Nelson to raise money to lobby Congress.

"Here are some facts about Senator Nelson and health care:

· During his presidential campaign and recently President Obama has said Americans who like their private insurance will get to keep it, or have the option to join another plan.

· Ben Nelson agrees and he's eager to see more details from the president, and he wants to make sure that the 85 percent of Nebraskans who have insurance today will continue to have the option of staying with their existing plans.

· Senator Nelson believes that all Americans should receive health insurance and agrees with President Obama that those who currently have health insurance should be assured that it won't be taken away from them.

· Senator Nelson is spending much of the congressional break in Nebraska this week meeting with Nebraskans, listening to them discuss health care and reform ideas. He's listening to patients, providers, employers and others. He looks forward to hearing from many more Nebraskans on ways to strengthen, broaden and provide stability in America's health care system."

And Green responds in an e-mail, complete with hyperlinks: "Ben Nelson's spokesperson is flagrantly lying -- saying Nelson never opposed a public option that he clearly opposed, calling public financing of congressional campaigns 'special interest legislation' when it's sole function is to curtail special interest influence, and calling a 'donor strike' which asks people NOT to give to Nelson unless he fights special interests a 'fundraising gimmick.' Nelson should apologize for his staff lying to Nebraskans."

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead h...
The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead h...
 
 
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09:00 PM on 05/28/2009
Maybe they offered to cover his (receding) hairline.
08:57 PM on 05/28/2009
lol. I called Sen. Neloson and sent him a signed petition. I am about to protest his office in person if he don't get some "ack right."
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TheThinkerCometh
08:00 PM on 05/28/2009
I hope Ted Kennedy can bring public option to the president's desk. I just hope Baucus and Nelson don't screw it up. We need public option more than ever now.
SouthernYankeeBelle
Dream Big,Work Hard & don't let anyone tell you no
08:29 PM on 05/28/2009
They need to get the insurance companies out of the room.
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Ponderus
Enriched with lanolin.
07:59 PM on 05/28/2009
I guess his constituents finally let him have it.
08:45 PM on 05/28/2009
that would be my guess
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mama4obama
08:50 PM on 05/28/2009
he's not my senator, but yep i let him have it!
07:55 PM on 05/28/2009
I don't trust these two as far as i could throw them. The devil will be in the details.
07:02 PM on 05/28/2009
maybe Nelson realized that while it's the special interests that pay for his campaigns and give him all those other perks, it's the voters who get to decide if he stays in office. Can't keep feeding at the special interest trough if you don't hold the office anymore. And for now at least, the special interests don't get to pull all the levers in all the voting machines... (but we need to bring back a paper trail for ALL voting machines NOW!!!!!!!!)....
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babyboomerorig
Finally, it's spring!
07:00 PM on 05/28/2009
So, Sen. Nelson, you finally got the message.

Don't mess with your constituants....they vote.

Afraid you wouldn't get re-elected?
SouthernYankeeBelle
Dream Big,Work Hard & don't let anyone tell you no
08:33 PM on 05/28/2009
I called Baucus and spoke with an aide. I told them we need a government healthinsurance. I told the aide I wasn't from his state. I would be watching.
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fourex
06:47 PM on 05/28/2009
Baucus also said, there can be no single payer plan because the Senate would vote it down. The US Senate would vote down a plan that would insure 50 million more people, cut health care costs, take health care costs off of business, streamline administration, and help the US economy. Who do these Senators represent, a foreign entity, a corporate minority?
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babyboomerorig
Finally, it's spring!
07:01 PM on 05/28/2009
They just don't care.

The HMO's and Pharms are paying them not to pass something so sensible.
06:24 PM on 05/28/2009
Maybe my letter to Nelson did some good after all.

Senator Ben Nelson
720 Hart SOB
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Nelson:

You recently stated that the option for people to choose a government Medicare type option for insurance coverage would create an “unfair” competition because the government could negotiate lower prices from hospitals and doctors than private insurance. What are you thinking? Are you a socialist? This is like saying that WalMart is an unfair competitor because they can negotiate lower prices from suppliers. If the government can offer lower cost insurance than private insurance providers, so be it. The overhead rate for Medicare is only about 5 %--far better than private insurance.

As a retiree I have found Medicare to be very well operated as is Group Health (a non profit) that supplies my supplementary and prescription insurance. In fact the Medicare premiums have not increased that much and Group Health premiums have not increased at all for the last several years. If private insurance cannot compete with the government plan on cost, let them compete on service and quality although I have no problems with Medicare along those lines.

I think you have lost sight of the main objective. It is to provide Americans with health coverage, not to keep private insurance companies in business. I am sure you will be lobbied and given a lot of money to oppose real health care reform. This is a real shame if not downright unpatriotic.
06:23 PM on 05/28/2009
hmm... i see the expert hand of Mr. Emmanuel in Senator Nelson's shift....

President Obama has chosen well hasn't he?
05:51 PM on 05/28/2009
Let's tell them know exactly how Main Street America feels:

Max Baucus, Montana:
DC Office: (202) 204-2651
Contact form: http://baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue

Ben Nelson, Nebraska:
DC Office: (202) 224-6551
Contact form: http://bennelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
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indabush
Experience is what every one calls their mistakes
05:34 PM on 05/28/2009
FLIP? you say? Nope - i'd say he read the writing on the wall - aka progressive dollars. That prick was in dange of getting zilch from true Democrats.
05:08 PM on 05/28/2009
I think the Great Senator Kennedy banged some heads when he got back in the groove of things.
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05:08 PM on 05/28/2009
Sounds like Mr. Nelson's has been getting a lot of comments from constituents supporting a public plan. The voters speak.
04:37 PM on 05/28/2009
Single payer is THE only way to go. Do not believe what they say about Canada, it's not true!!! My sis & mom live there and for 15years have never been denied care, surgery, therapy.

It really is time for Nelson and Baucus to go. What is Harry Reid doing about these 2 and the rest of their cronies. There really should be a rule that says you can't sit on a certain committee if you've taken lobbying money or contributions from the industry your committee is supposed to legislate!!
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TexasMom
Grampa was a Commie and no one cared!
05:46 PM on 05/28/2009
While I am more than in favor of reform and maybe even single payer (my concern on single payer is what happens if the next person comes in and is against it and my family can't get insurance again) I don't think it's true that no one has been denied care/surgery in Canada. I personally have a friend who's father in Alberta was a healthy 75 year old except for the need for a knee replacement because of arthritis and he was denied because the knee replacement would "out-live" him by 5 years according to the statistics. He's still trying to walk with the pain.

While those kind of decisions may be made by private insurance also we shouldn't have our heads in the sand that this won't happen under a single payer system.
09:03 PM on 05/28/2009
hmmmm...the report on the knee sounds wierd to this Canadian. My grandmother was still getting cataract surgery in her mid-80s and my neighbour was able to get serious back surgery in his late-80s. Even if there were some limitations, at least we don't force 40+M citizens into poverty centres or emergency rooms for basic care. Yikes, what a mess the US "system" is.