Nelson Now Open To Public Health Care, Baucus Will Fight For It

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First Posted: 05-28-09 01:50 PM   |   Updated: 05-28-09 04:15 PM

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The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead health care negotiator, is "fighting tooth and nail to include that in any final deal," his chief of staff John Selib said at a town hall meeting in Montana, according to the Billings Gazette.

Meanwhile, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) backed off his opposition to a public option in a meeting with health care advocates on Wednesday in Nebraska.

Nelson, according to three people in the room, told the group that he was open to a public option, the primary Democratic goal of reform and anathema to conservatives.

"The good news for all sides involved is that he's open minded," said Barry Rubin, the former Executive Director for the Nebraska Democratic Party, who was in the meeting. "He's not closed minded about a public option."

Jane Kleeb, a top Democratic powerbroker in Nebraska, said Nelson's openness to a public option was the biggest takeaway from the meeting.

"He made it clear that he is open to the public option. That's not a line in the sand where he says it must be off the table for him to move forward on health care reform," she said.

Nebraska pediatrician Thomas Tonniges, also in the meeting, concurred. "My understanding was he felt all good ideas should be considered," he said. "He certainly has been supportive of S-CHIP" -- the federally-funded state children's health insurance program. chip...more children having health insurance, just seemed to be very open to any ideas we had.

The meeting included representatives of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees; Service Employees International Union; AARP; the American Cancer Society; the reform coalition Healthcare for America NOW! (HCAN) and the Center for Rural Affairs.

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A spokesman for Nelson confirmed the meeting but would only say that he is listening to health care concerns from constituents all this week in Nebraska.

Nelson had previously told CQ that a public option was a "deal breaker." Nelson said that he planned to organization a coalition of Democratic senators to oppose a public option. The coalition never materialized.

Nelson softened that opposition in a subsequent interview with the Huffington Post. He said he would "continue to talk" to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) who'd offered a compromise public option that was unsubsidized and had to follow the same rules private plans do.

But he stopped short of saying he was open to it.

"I'm open to listening to him explain to me how this would work," he said.

Rubin said the meeting with Nelson involved a "very substantive, pragmatic conversation about where we go from here."

Nelson "believes in what President Obama campaigned on, that everybody should have the same access that members of Congress have, the same quality of care that members of congress have," said Rubin. "Moving forward, the question is how do you get from point A to point B."

Kleeb, representing SEIU, remembers the conversation similarly.

"He said he's continuing to support what President Obama said on the campaign trail, which is that everyone should be covered by insurance, and that folks who like their insurance can keep it, but that we have to get everybody covered," she said.

"Senator Nelson will do the right thing on health care," she added. "Nelson, while he may not be a perfect progressive senator, he is good for Nebraska."

On Thursday, a progressive organization launched an attack on Nelson in Nebraska for opposing the public plan. The campaign, run by Change Congress, emphasizes the millions in campaign contributions Nelson has taken from the insurance industry.

The campaign calls on Nebraskans to sign a petition calling for Nelson to back a public plan and to pledge not to donate money to him unless he forswears special-interest contributions.

"We want to make sure Ben Nelson knows that some of his local fundraising support will dry up if he doesn't take a stand against special interests," said Adam Green of Change Congress.

Kleeb and Rubin dismissed the campaign, both noting that Omaha is the national headquarters of the insurance industry. Both made the same analogy, that refusing insurance money in Nebraska would be like turning down auto-industry money in Michigan or orange juice money in Florida.

Green, however, isn't backing off.

"Saying in private that he's 'open' to a public option gets Nelson back to where he was before publicly opposing the President's plan and getting called out for taking millions from health and insurance interests who feel threatened by competition. If Nelson's truly willing to take on special interests, he should firmly support the public option and co-sponsor Sen. [Dick] Durbin's [D-Ill.] Fair Elections Now Act." he said.

The attack on Nelson got his attention. He responded within hours of the campaign launch with an assertive rebuke:

NELSON: NEBRASKANS BEWARE OF MISLEADING FUNDRAISING GIMMICK

May 28, 2009 - The office of Nebraska's Senator Ben Nelson today warned Nebraskans not to fall for a misleading fundraising gimmick by a special interest group called Change Congress. The group has issued a press release concerning Senator Nelson and said it was sending mailers to Nebraskans.

Senator Nelson's spokesman Jake Thompson issued this statement:

"There's no doubt Senator Nelson understands the insurance industry's important role providing health care for millions of Americans. After all, he's been an insurance executive, an insurance industry regulator, a governor who created a children's health insurance program, and today he represents Nebraska, arguably the insurance capital of the world.

"But let's look at this group closely. They claim, 'Ben Nelson said he may not support Obama's plan.' Can they send us a copy of the plan? No, because President Obama hasn't offered a specific plan yet. Next, they ask if people are ready to change Congress and 'take on special interests' and 'only donate to politicians who prove they are willing to do that.' Then, they promote an election law proposal they're lobbying for.

"So, let's get this straight: These people are endorsing something they haven't seen, criticizing Senator Nelson for something he hasn't done and using health care as a fundraising gimmick--to lobby for unrelated special interest legislation. These people have a political agenda that has nothing remotely to do with helping Nebraskans get and keep affordable, high quality health care. Their effort is silly, sad and sophomoric.

"Nebraskans are far too smart to fall for just another special interest group grabbing a hot issue and misrepresenting both the president and Senator Nelson to raise money to lobby Congress.

"Here are some facts about Senator Nelson and health care:

· During his presidential campaign and recently President Obama has said Americans who like their private insurance will get to keep it, or have the option to join another plan.

· Ben Nelson agrees and he's eager to see more details from the president, and he wants to make sure that the 85 percent of Nebraskans who have insurance today will continue to have the option of staying with their existing plans.

· Senator Nelson believes that all Americans should receive health insurance and agrees with President Obama that those who currently have health insurance should be assured that it won't be taken away from them.

· Senator Nelson is spending much of the congressional break in Nebraska this week meeting with Nebraskans, listening to them discuss health care and reform ideas. He's listening to patients, providers, employers and others. He looks forward to hearing from many more Nebraskans on ways to strengthen, broaden and provide stability in America's health care system."

And Green responds in an e-mail, complete with hyperlinks: "Ben Nelson's spokesperson is flagrantly lying -- saying Nelson never opposed a public option that he clearly opposed, calling public financing of congressional campaigns 'special interest legislation' when it's sole function is to curtail special interest influence, and calling a 'donor strike' which asks people NOT to give to Nelson unless he fights special interests a 'fundraising gimmick.' Nelson should apologize for his staff lying to Nebraskans."

Ryan Grim is the author of the forthcoming book This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead h...
The push to include a public health care option as part of a system-wide overhaul benefited from two major boosts Wednesday. Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), the chairman of the Finance Committee and lead h...
 
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- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

Any public elected official who puts private insurance industry needs ahead of citizens needs by opposing the "public option" should be clearly identified and exposed as an enemy of the people and friend of the insurance industry. I don't know who is more hated: the banking racket or the health insurance racket. Congress People, you will be remembered for your positions on public health insurance. Yea or Nay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/28/2009
- TheImpaler I'm a Fan of TheImpaler 8 fans permalink
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We need some big grassroots group like Moveon.org ( btw where are they) to apply the pressure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 05/28/2009

Ho-ly crap....I never thought I'd see the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 05/28/2009

hope all the stories about national health care in other countries are wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 05/28/2009
- fantomette I'm a Fan of fantomette 2 fans permalink

1st: a public option is just an option for people to buy a government 3rd party istead of a for profit one.

2nd: France kicks our ass at healthcare , indie pharmacies are thriving ( translates into no wait times and less mistakes) , and doctors even make housecalls­...all that for nearly 1/2 what we spend. Taking the greedy middleman away from the equation can only benefit what we currently have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/28/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

The bad stories are more boogeys made up by the health insurance industry. Do you know anyone in Europe who would want to trade with us? I don't. My European friends and relatives are horrified by American health industry. They don't know how we can stand it, or why we keep electing officials who represent private health care for profit systems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 05/28/2009
- joe973 I'm a Fan of joe973 3 fans permalink

Let's Go Adam! Let's Go! Great job Mr Geen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 05/28/2009
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Nelson has taken enough bank money that he can retire....­..Soooooo Mr. Nelson say good-bye. You are a detrimate to this nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 05/28/2009
- billrott I'm a Fan of billrott 9 fans permalink

Don't take your eye off the ball. These people must continually be reminded of the high level of support for a public option.

Simple put, if the public option is not passed then the Senators should have their public option heathcare coverage stripped and they should be forced to buy private insurance. I imagine that once they live like the average citizen...­who am I kidding...­once they live like every other citizen in the U.S., things will change in relation to healthcare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 05/28/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

Yes! How can a Senator oppose a public option when that is what they enjoy? Come on voters, tell your Senators and Representatives how important the public option is to...the public that elects them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 05/28/2009

Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 05/28/2009
- ldcbl I'm a Fan of ldcbl 3 fans permalink

there can be no health care reform without the public option. otherwise it will be health care light, run by the insurance companies, for the insurance companies, and for the benefit of the insurance companies. the public option will bring competition and provide the people with a real choice when when it comes to health care. the dems have to stick together and avoid being paid off by the pharmas and ins companies and bring us real reform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/28/2009
- ReealOne I'm a Fan of ReealOne 82 fans permalink
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I STILL say that Ben Nelson has been put on notice. Nelson MUST understand that he is a Democrat, and while we don't expect him to "rubber stamp" Pres. Obama's agenda without question and listening to arguments and input from ALL sides, we EXPECT him and all the other DEMs to iron out any differences, and work with Pres. Obama to advance his agenda.

America voted OVERWHELMINGLY to give the DEMs power majority, with mandates for a BOLD and SWIFT agenda....­. in order to get things done in Washington for ALL Americans, with all the messes we inherited. If not, then WE WILL hold them accountable by withholding our support and our votes. Plain and simple.

ENOUGH of seeing some of the DEMS not watching Pres. Obama's back, and pissing away the power majority with mandates by mincing words. We did not give any one DEM power majority to give them bragging rights or to become drunk with power, but to actually work for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 05/28/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 126 fans permalink
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It seems there will be concessions to this Bill .. if Nelson is on Board

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/28/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 647 fans permalink
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yeah. it will be watered down by centrists, and life will go on....,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 05/28/2009
- VPN I'm a Fan of VPN 107 fans permalink
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They will use the same old call it one thing but in reality will do something else trick, just like The Clean Air Initiative, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 05/28/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

For a lot of people with no insurance, life will not go on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 05/28/2009
- jordan3189 I'm a Fan of jordan3189 20 fans permalink

Now everybody will love him again, how sweet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 05/28/2009
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 126 fans permalink
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Doubt it, I for one don't detest Nelson .... Many Libs here do sadly ... they are just like you tr0lls who believe everyone should be at the extreme ...... there should be no moderates ..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/28/2009
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So making sure that everyone has access to health care in a way that does not jeopardize their or their family's financial situation is" extreme"? Says a great deal about you, and anyone else who calls themselves "moderate" and holds this position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 05/28/2009

Aw shucks he's had an epiphany. He just wants to be re-elected. Why don't we let him retire and move to florida. They could use the revenue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 05/28/2009
- dayala I'm a Fan of dayala 18 fans permalink

Obama must be playing some real 'hardball' with them behind the scenes like " I won't come fundraise for you I'll fundraise for your challenger".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/28/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 647 fans permalink
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typical centrist raising his wet finger to the wind. Centrist politicians lack values and compromise change away to sustain gridlock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 05/28/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

Hi. Meanwhile, the uninsured are dying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 05/28/2009
- GTFOOH I'm a Fan of GTFOOH 8 fans permalink
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This old toad is useless!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/28/2009
- Shawn0965 I'm a Fan of Shawn0965 3 fans permalink
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I smell a deal.

Did Baucus have to give up taking away the 6 Billion a year banks get paid to service student loans, for this nod from Nelson?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 05/28/2009

Norman Thomas - “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 05/28/2009
- vesaversa1 I'm a Fan of vesaversa1 12 fans permalink
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Where in the hell have you been living ? We have been a scocialist country for years ,that if you except Scocial sercurty ,medecaid and medicare as ascocial programs which every memeber of congress is receiving at tax payer expence .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 05/28/2009
- koyak23 I'm a Fan of koyak23 22 fans permalink

A recent survey showed that the top 10 "happiest" countries were socialist (the USA did not crack the top 10). Also, no country that has adopted socializedmedicine has encountered a movement to switch to privatized medicine . I wonder why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 05/28/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 647 fans permalink
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that would be a great day ,indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/28/2009

Looking forward to it :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 05/28/2009
- Bardmess I'm a Fan of Bardmess 12 fans permalink

May I live long enough. I hear Dr. Kavorkian is starting a special lost cost private insurance company, just in case the public option fails.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/28/2009
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