Bush, Clinton Appear Together In Toronto

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ROB GILLIES | May 29, 2009 11:23 PM EST | AP

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TORONTO — Former President George W. Bush called former President Bill Clinton "his brother" and the two rarely disagreed in their first-ever appearance together on stage.

The Republican and Democratic ex-presidents defended each other at a Toronto forum on Friday, disappointing some in the crowd of 6,000 who expected a more heated debate.

Bush said that he never liked it when previous administration officials criticized his government but said Clinton was respectful and never did.

Bush declined to criticize the Obama administration, in contrast to former Vice President Dick Cheney, who has been a vocal critic of Obama. Bush, who wasn't asked about Cheney, said there are "plenty of critics in America."

Bush and Clinton did differ on Iraq. Clinton said U.N inspectors should have been given more time to conduct the search for weapons of mass destruction and Bush should have concentrated on Afghanistan. Bush disagreed.

"I don't buy the premise that our attention was diverted," Bush said.

Bush joked about how much time his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and Clinton spend together. He said his mother, Barbara Bush, "said President Clinton and Father share the stage so much, he's like a son to her."

He said, "So brother, it's good to see you."

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Clinton and the elder Bush have worked together to lead fundraising after disasters such as the southeast Asian tsunami, Hurricane Katrina and last summer's Hurricane Ike.

While both men received polite applause from the audience at Toronto's convention center, a couple hundred protesters demonstrated outside. The organizers declined to say how much the men were paid for the event, called "A conversation with Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton." Ticket prices sold for C$200 to C$2,500.

Bush joked about the speaking fees, which are normally lucrative for former presidents.

"President Clinton and I used to believe in free speech," Bush said before pausing. "So thanks very much for coming _ we are glad you're here."

The two made speeches before taking questions from moderator Frank McKenna, Canada's former ambassador to the United States.

Asked why he didn't stop the killing in the Rwanda genocide when he was president in 1994, Clinton said he had no excuse or defense.

"It's one of the two or three greatest regrets of my presidency," Clinton said.

Clinton said the U.S. could have saved 250,000 or 400,000 of the 800,000 people who died had he sent about 20,000 troops. Bush defended Clinton, saying 20,000 troops could not have been mobilized quickly.

Clinton praised Bush for his AIDS initiatives and also hailed the racial and ethnic diversity of his cabinet choices.

Christian Darbyshire and Andy McCreath, partners in tinePublic Inc, organized the event. They hosted Bush for his first speech since leaving office in March and have also hosted others like former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan.

TORONTO — Former President George W. Bush called former President Bill Clinton "his brother" and the two rarely disagreed in their first-ever appearance together on stage. The Republican and De...
TORONTO — Former President George W. Bush called former President Bill Clinton "his brother" and the two rarely disagreed in their first-ever appearance together on stage. The Republican and De...
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- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

Why do Presidents always sit with their legs crossed like women?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/30/2009
- KodeBloo I'm a Fan of KodeBloo 37 fans permalink
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To boggle small minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 05/30/2009
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 55 fans permalink

haha..nothing else to do eh. A bit homophobic are you. It happens to be class not that I would grant either one of them that label. Not everyone sits like a Bubba.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 05/30/2009
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Because that's considered proper etiquette!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 05/30/2009
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

Who cares. Bush is delusional, and Bill is jealous
of President O. They deserve each other

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/30/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 125 fans permalink

""Bill is jealous
of President O.""

There ya go!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/30/2009
- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 100 fans permalink
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You think he did this to generate controversy, because he gets no more attention since Barack came along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 05/30/2009
- micmac I'm a Fan of micmac 3 fans permalink
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I miss you, W! You are the best!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/30/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 167 fans permalink

The best at being a war criminal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/30/2009
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The best at what exactly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 05/30/2009
- mafina I'm a Fan of mafina 13 fans permalink

Neither one could be trusted and to think that Clinton may be more rogue than W.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 05/30/2009
- all4hill I'm a Fan of all4hill 2 fans permalink
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Bill Clinton was the best President in 30 yrs. Maybe Pres. Obama will be better than Clinton, but people need to respect Pres. Clinton. I could care less about Bush. Like James Carville said to Rove, " I only have to defend 8 minutes, republicans have to defend 8 yrs." Clinton deserves respect, his wife is doing an amazing job. If you can't accept that Bill Clinton was a good President then you just can't be reasoned with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/30/2009

no, clinton was a stop-gap president. he did nothing substantial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 05/30/2009
- Ares1 I'm a Fan of Ares1 4 fans permalink

Ironic that Bill Clinton gets along with both Bushes but does not get along with Jimmy Carter like at all and still has issues with Obama though his wife gets along with Obama very well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 05/30/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 216 fans permalink

Obama trashed him on a very unfair level.

He'll not be respected for having done so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 05/30/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 229 fans permalink
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Wow that was sure some short volunteering!!! Must have been a dull day at JPP, huh???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/30/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 216 fans permalink

I should say, he'll NEVER be respected.

He traded that for his campaign dilly.

He'll join Jimmy in the other corner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/30/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 229 fans permalink
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He already is respected. It may be unwarranted but he is respected. Doesn't another board need a B.U.S.H. A.P.O.L.O.G.I.S.T!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 05/30/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 125 fans permalink

Bill has shown me he is really more like the Bush Gang. I always knew Hillary is a closet Repub, now I think Bill is too.

Bill has nothing to do with decent guys like Carter and Gore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/30/2009
- Prakosh I'm a Fan of Prakosh 229 fans permalink
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You're a little late for dinner. Clinton always was Republican light...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 05/30/2009
- all4hill I'm a Fan of all4hill 2 fans permalink
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Carter wen't to the middle east behind Pres. Clinton's back in the 90's, that's why Clinton doesn't like Carter. He tried to do his own peace deal w/o Pres. Clinton. If anybody did that to Obama he would be pissed as well. Bill Clinton has done more in his philanthropic work than Carter could ever wish to . Clinton was a much better president than Carter by a long shot. Carter is considered one of the worst Presidents ever, but let me just say , Carter was a much better Pres.than Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 05/30/2009

Clinton is a center-right Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 05/30/2009
- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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I was there at the Bush v. Clinton debate, and I came away with three feelings:

-Bush is personally very nice and a funny guy

-I believe he sincerely had good intentions in his actions as President

-The contrast with Clinton truly illustrated how simple-minded Bush is...I always felt that he had been manipulated by Cheney and Rummy, and this forum really showed that Bush did not think complexly and if you argued heinous actions in a black and white manner you'd easily be able to convince him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 05/30/2009
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Shut your noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/30/2009
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 83 fans permalink
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How simply you can manipulated by an individual's demeanor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/30/2009
- snruB I'm a Fan of snruB 5 fans permalink
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Quiet you noob

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 05/30/2009
- ywcachieve I'm a Fan of ywcachieve 125 fans permalink

anruB.....naive much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 05/30/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 167 fans permalink

I have always thought Bush has learning disablilities, like attention deficit disorder. That is why he seeems not to be able to concentrate. Even considering that, he was an awful, immoral, amoral president who constantly manipulated people to enable him as many alcholics do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 05/30/2009
- ccairnes I'm a Fan of ccairnes 5 fans permalink

I hadn't hear that this event was a debate. What I heard about it was that Bush wouldn't do it unless he could prescreen the questions.

I agree with your assessment. Had the Right-wing not set the stage by spending Clinton's entire presidency driving him to impeachment, Bush wouldn't have had a chance of being elected on the merit of his intellect. Had the Republican Party not been crucifying Clinton he may have had the political will to stand up for the voters when they were getting screwed in the 2000 election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 05/30/2009
- Rigso I'm a Fan of Rigso 2 fans permalink

Well I understand that they don't want to get into a huge battle of former pres, the media would LOOOVE that. That said, Clinton has criticized Bush plenty, but now when he's sitting right there. Obama would have done the same if was an ex prez on this type of forum. so please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/30/2009

W I totally miss ya dude, kinda like waking up one day and realizing that I hit the lotto (quick pick) for
10 million and proverty is now a thang of the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 05/30/2009
- solarian I'm a Fan of solarian 14 fans permalink

two greedy loser they deserve each other and why wasn't bush arrested when in canada

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 05/30/2009
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 55 fans permalink

I don't think I would put Clinton in the same boat with Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/30/2009
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 51 fans permalink

can we pay canada to keep them there ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/30/2009

"...Clinton said U.N inspectors should have been given more time to conduct the search for weapons of mass destruction and Bush should have concentrated on Afghanistan. Bush disagreed. 'I don't buy the premise that our attention was diverted...' " Nor do I buy into this thing about gravity, so I think I'll jump off the roof of this 3-story building I'm currently standing on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 05/30/2009
- Colmore I'm a Fan of Colmore 45 fans permalink

Wishful thinking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/30/2009
- hypnotoad72 I'm a Fan of hypnotoad72 102 fans permalink
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I thought they hated each other; all the pics of gatherings where both men were at -- those scowls couldn't have been for any other reason, surely?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xrDiLQqAbzI/RcL1mRPaDjI/AAAAAAAAADo/em1t4IurzPQ/s400/bush_clinton.jpg
http://www.welfarestate.com/unite/bush-clinton/bush-clinton-superbowl05.jpg
http://www.foxnews.com/images/149434/4_21_010305_bush_clinton.jpg
(I might be a tad off on that third one...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 05/30/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 216 fans permalink

No, they have always had a very respectful relationship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/30/2009
- dwright I'm a Fan of dwright 313 fans permalink
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Actually Clinton has always had a better relationship with Bush's father.

Clinton probably needs the money to pay back the savings for Hillary's campaign, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 05/30/2009

This would have been better as a cage match.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 05/30/2009
- NotWaldo I'm a Fan of NotWaldo 44 fans permalink
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President Bush is completely unspoiled by failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/30/2009
- dwright I'm a Fan of dwright 313 fans permalink
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He doesn't know he failed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/30/2009
- KodeBloo I'm a Fan of KodeBloo 37 fans permalink
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God protects drunks and fools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 05/30/2009
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