NYT Recycles 'Sharp-Tongue' Criticism Of Sotomayor

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First Posted: 05-29-09 12:56 PM   |   Updated: 05-29-09 01:39 PM

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I don't think I mentioned it previously, but when President Barack Obama announced that he would be submitting Second Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Sonia Sotomayor's name for appointment to the Supreme Court, New Republic writer Jeffrey Rosen let it be known that he supported her confirmation, and that he wanted to make it clear that previous writings on the subject of Sotomayor needed to be put in the proper context:

Conservatives are already citing my initial piece on Sotomayor as a basis for opposing her. This willfully misreads both my piece and the follow-up response.

Well, for my part, you can just bet that I felt like a real a-hole for "willfully misreading" a piece that built a case against Sotomayor -- and that was titled "The Case Against Sotomayor" -- as if it were, somehow, a case against Sotomayor. Egg on my face!

Anyway, in that oft-misread piece, Rosen noted that Sotomayor's colleagues raised "questions about her temperament," that she was "a bully on the bench," "has an inflated opinion of herself," and is "domineering during oral arguments" -- clearly the sort of testimony that is easily misread! And, don't you know, the New York Times has gone and microwaved up a plate of Rosen today, in a piece that warns against her "sharp tongue."

Credit the Times for one improvement -- people actually willing to sign their names to their criticism. However, it isn't long before this piece's main thesis collides with reality, and you start to see that beneath the frenzied warning of a "blunt" and "testy" and "difficult" and "nasty" Sotomayor, the writers have to eventually acknowledge that when it comes to temperamental Supreme Court Justices, there's already an established precedent:

Those skills, some observers say, could make her an able politician on the Supreme Court and allow her to serve as an intellectual counterweight to Justice Antonin Scalia, a conservative who is known for his acerbic questioning.


"In some ways she could match, well, the other New Yorker on the court, Justice Scalia," said Douglas Kmiec, a law professor at Pepperdine University. "He expects people to give back as good as he gives, and I expect that when Justice Sotomayor is on the court, his wish will be fulfilled."

OH, YES. I had heard something, I think, about this man, Scalia, and his "personality." Let us flashback to February 5, Andrew Cohen reporting for CBS News:

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's famous temper is often discussed in legal circles as an indelible part of his forceful personality, as if it were a mole on his cheek or the accent that rolls off his tongue. Whenever he acts like a jerk, and that is a relatively common occurrence for a man who works within the semi-secret world of the High Court, we are told by his sycophants that he doesn't suffer fools gladly and that he has earned the right to be rude.


We are supposed to accept these excuses and explanations, shrug our shoulders, and hear his tribunes declare: well, cut the guy some slack, you know how moody geniuses are! Whatever you think about Scalia's jurisprudence, his bully routine is getting old. Tuesday afternoon, Scalia showed again just how easy it is to set him off when a college student asked him a reasonable, even poignant question about accessibility to the workings of the Supreme Court. Here is how the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel chronicled the incident:

Student Sarah Jeck stood in front of 750 people and asked Scalia why cameras are not allowed in the U.S. Supreme Court even though the court hearings are open, transcripts are available and the court's justices are open enough to go 'out on book tours.' 'Read the next question,' Scalia replied. 'That's a nasty, impolite question.'

Perhaps you can find the part of Jeck's question that is "nasty" and "impolite." I can't.

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And yet, somehow, the Republic has survived with this man on the Supreme Court!

Actually, there's one other extraordinary thing going on in this article about Sotomayor's "sharp tongue" and it comes up right in the lede, without much fanfare:

Judge Sonia Sotomayor, President Obama's Supreme Court choice, has a blunt and even testy side, and it was on display in December during an argument before the federal appeals court in New York. The case concerned a Canadian man who said American officials had sent him to Syria to be tortured, and Judge Sotomayor peppered a government lawyer with skeptical questions.


"So the minute the executive raises the specter of foreign policy, national security," Judge Sotomayor asked the lawyer, Jonathan F. Cohn, "it is the government's position that that is a license to torture anyone?"

Mr. Cohn managed to get out two and a half words: "No, your hon---- ."

Judge Sotomayor cut him off, then hit him with two more questions and a flat declaration of what she said was his position. The lawyer managed to say she was wrong, but could not clarify the point until the chief judge, Dennis G. Jacobs, stepped in, asking, "Why don't we just get the position?"

To supporters, Judge Sotomayor's vigorous questioning of the Bush administration's position in the case of the Canadian, Maher Arar, showcases some of her strengths. She is known as a formidably intelligent judge with a prodigious memory who meticulously prepares for oral arguments and is not shy about grilling the lawyers who appear before her to ensure that she fully understands their arguments.

That's right! The cited example of Sotomayor's temperament comes in the Maher Arar case, and if there was ever an occasion for "vigorous questioning," it is in that particular instance! I'll allow Wikipedia to summarize the particulars, which this article glossed over in earnest:

Arar was detained during a layover at John F. Kennedy International Airport in September 2002 on his way home to Canada from a family vacation in Tunis. He was held in solitary confinement in the United States for nearly two weeks, questioned, and denied meaningful access to a lawyer. The US government suspected him of being a member of Al Qaeda and deported him, not to Canada, his current home, but to his native Syria, even though its government is known to use torture. He was detained in Syria for almost a year, during which time he was tortured, according to the findings of the Arar Commission, until his release to Canada.


The government of Canada ordered a commission of inquiry which concluded that he was tortured. The commission of inquiry publicly cleared Arar of any links to terrorism, and gave him a C$10.5 million settlement. The Syrian government reports it knows of no links of Arar to terrorism.

Despite the Canadian court ruling, the United States government has not exonerated Arar and, on the contrary, has made public statements to state their belief that Arar is affiliated with members of organizations they describe as terrorist. As of February 2009, Arar and his family remain on a watchlist. His US lawyers at the Center for Constitutional Rights are currently pursuing his case, Arar v. Ashcroft, which seeks compensatory damages on Arar's behalf and also a declaration that the actions of the US government were illegal and violated his constitutional, civil, and international human rights.

Speaking only for myself, I think that if I were ever mistakenly sent to Syria to be tortured for a year, only to be greeted, upon release, by the United States government's refusal to acknowledge, rectify, or apologize for their error, I should hope I'd have at least one sharp-tongued judge probing the matter in depth!

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I don't think I mentioned it previously, but when President Barack Obama announced that he would be submitting Second Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Sonia Sotomayor's name for appointment to the Supre...
I don't think I mentioned it previously, but when President Barack Obama announced that he would be submitting Second Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Sonia Sotomayor's name for appointment to the Supre...
 
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- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Brilliant Article!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 05/31/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

It never fails to amuse me how people love to discredit strong women. Bully, ball-busting, you know, same old comments, different day. Give it up, she's gonna be the next SCOTUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/31/2009

The issue isn't just about gender bias, but about old stereotypes of Latinos and Latinas in particular. Just like the "angry" black man characterization is still so pervasive, so is the "hot blooded" Latina one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/31/2009

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." said Sotomayor. She meant what she said. And Obama's supporters AGREE with her but won't admit their racially based belief because the political price for honesty is too high.

"Sotomayor, to quote that great jurist Dr. Seuss, meant what she said and said what she meant. This was no throwaway line or off-the-cuff linguistic stumble along the lines of the judge’s other controversial comment about appeals courts making policy.

Rather, Sotomayor was deliberately and directly disputing remarks by then-Justice Sandra Day O’Connor that a wise old woman and a wise old man would eventually reach the same conclusion in a case. “I am…not so sure that I agree with the statement,” Sotomayor said. Moreover, if Sotomayor regretted that YouTube moment, she had the chance to revise and extend: Her remarks were reprinted in the Berkeley La Raza Law Journal. Knowing the multi-layered editing process of law journals, I’d be shocked if Sotomayor did not at least have the chance to review the transcript of her speech and make any tweaks.." Ruth Marcus | May 30, 2009

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 05/31/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 168 fans permalink

Yes, and clearly we know the original story was true. It rang true to me, even initially. The types of comments made seemed specific and just the kind of thing that her peers would kvetch about.

Obama's defense here that she didn't choose better words still makes no sense. What about the meaning? Heck, I don't care if someone dresses up the meaning in such a way that nobody can get the point. That's stupid.

Nobody has been able to offer an alternative meaning yet.

She better be coming up with one, because it's going to be a prime question to her. And the committee isn't going to accept a Gibb's answer: "I didn't choose my words well."


I think she said what she meant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 05/31/2009

There is little or no chance she will not be confirmed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 05/31/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

So, you think she won't be confirmed? That is a given. "She better be coming up with one" is not going to keep her from her confirmation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 05/31/2009

How many of you have had your words misconstrued. The woman was not making a racist statement, she was merely saying that as a woman of color she would be able to understand, empathize, and analyze cases from a perspective that would be different from a white male. I can't believe how this could be taken so out of context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 05/31/2009

Well, I'm not sure I agree with Sandra Day O'Connor's statement either. Women and men, old and otherwise, have some very different life experiences and perspectives. Why would they necessarily reach the same conclusion in a case?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 05/31/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 168 fans permalink

I personally hate the judicial tactic of making statements while pretending to ask questions. The purpose is to humiliate the lawyer arguing the case, and I don't admire that goal.

So I'm glad she got called out for this by her peers. Perhaps she'll clean up her act when she's appointed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/31/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Right, Like Scalia and Alito have cleaned up their acts......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/31/2009

"Sharp tongue?" I may reconsider my recent practice of again buying the NYT once or twice a week. How do you sell papers to only the fringe right? I'll bet they don't buy it anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 05/31/2009
- LoriAnn I'm a Fan of LoriAnn 10 fans permalink

And if she were a man.... that sharp tongue would read....." legal scholar with an intellectually agressive approach to showing his strength and superior decision making abilities !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 05/31/2009

I was thinking the same thing. And if it had been uttered by a white male he would be on a pedestal right now instead of under fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 05/31/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

Exactly!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/31/2009

The NYT's is in it's last death throws, and like a dying animal is lashing out and spurring diatribe, it has been reduced to tabloid reporting as a model to resuscitate it's ailing but hopeless revenue!

This sort of reporting is no surprise to New Yorkers, NYT's is so insulated from the people who live in this city, that most local residents do not read it, and consider it some what of bias and not relevant to their lives!

This is one of among many reasons for it's decline!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 05/31/2009
- rekk I'm a Fan of rekk 7 fans permalink

Agreed! How this paper can constantly pander to the rich thinking that that is who is going to save them! they're making themselves into no better than two-bit hookers trying to court the aristocracy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 05/31/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Wait a minute, who do you think is buying the advertising space??? and it isn't kmart.... the rich OWN the NYT....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/31/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 480 fans permalink
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Has the NY Times ever written a positive story about Puerto Rican-Americans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 05/30/2009

You are not alone in your impression!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 05/31/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 82 fans permalink
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There must have been at least one about a baseball player somewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 05/31/2009
- ccoppe I'm a Fan of ccoppe 13 fans permalink
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So, "Nino" Scalia is permitted to sit as an Associate Justice, "sharp tongue" and all -- but Sonia Sotomayor is branded as a "bully" for being a WOMAN of similar judicial personality?

Racism and misogyny abound within the political establishment and 4th estate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 05/30/2009
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A friend of mine had an experience at an Ivy League school where he was employed. His manager made a reference to his "Hispanic Temper" things quickly went downhill after that.

The result... the school ended up paying for my friend's degree as part of his separation agreement instead of court.

I was wondering when the issue was going to come up... and it id... another arsenal used against Hispanics trying to make it to the top: Their nasty temper... and let's not get started with all that hand-moving.. if that is not a clear indication that a Hispanic does not belong in the court... I don't know what is? Let's see... how about her EXPERIENCE???


Berkeley Lefty

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/30/2009
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The thing is that this temper can be had by anyone. Why is it "hispanic"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/30/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 168 fans permalink

In this particular case, I think the appropriate prejudicial label should be "New York temperament." *haha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 05/31/2009
- bazokbros I'm a Fan of bazokbros 13 fans permalink

I think it is legitmate to bring up issues if she is a nightmare with her disposition and demeanor. Maybe some of it will show during the confirmation hearings. Gloria Molina who is on the The Board of Supervisors in Los Angeles has the same reputation that she is polite on camera and a maniac behind closed doors and has been known to throw things at her staff when she gets angry. I know this beyond a rumor someone told me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 05/30/2009
- whitehawk I'm a Fan of whitehawk 17 fans permalink

Just another stab at the 'woman' issue, my god....many men are emotional and this should never be a litmus test for a candidate. You and I have no idea if she is well tempered because even the critics say.....'someone said she......... That is a non starter if they can't name sources. But most of all is the degradation of this woman as soon as her name was known and knowone knew her, lies and dishonest remarks, ugly racist remarks started to emerge. I would also like to see those idiots NOT showing their temper, but it's displayed nightly isn't it GOP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 05/30/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 168 fans permalink

No, it's a matter of professionalism. Women who fail to act in a professional manner are often rightfully criticized. Ditto for men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 05/31/2009

The repugs are at it again hypocracy, sexism, and racism. All stemmin from the depths of their base of fear. Fear. Fear and so on and so on....

Who are they kidding? This woman, Judge Sonia Sotomayor, is a supreme pick. And she will be confirmed as the next Supreme Court Justice.

Another reason for me to be proud of my country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/30/2009

Same ol' same ol' - if a woman does it she's shrill and bitchy, if a guy does it he's forceful and manly. F*'em.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 05/30/2009
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 142 fans permalink
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Nah, the inappropri­atly-title­d "Justice" Scalia is indeed famously 'shrill and bitchy', he is neigther forceful nor manly by anybody's definition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 05/30/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Closet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 05/31/2009

Not sure when these guys are going to get it that they are a joke and don't come close to being worthy adversaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/30/2009
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Happy Happy Joy Joy-- So Glad the Federalist Soceity on the Bench WILL Change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/30/2009
- adamsmith3 I'm a Fan of adamsmith3 17 fans permalink

I can't help but feel only the straw-man issues are being addressed by supporters of Sotomayor. What most concerns me is her unethical throwing out of the New Haven discrimination case in which she addressed with a single paragraph that was thrown out and the fact that her judgments have been overturned by the Supreme Court 80 percent of the time. In fact, her ter.rible judgment on the Ricci discrimination case is due to be overturned by the SC in late June (and it is expected to be more than a 5-4 decision). Many of her colleagues have commented on her superficial reasoning in legal memos and that she relies lightly on solid constitutional reasoning to arrive at her decisions. Obviously the talk from colleagues could just be hearsay. She is obviously very accomplished and did very well academically. But it is not her statements about r.ace or her "sh.arp tongue" that truly concern people, but rather her legal judgments that have been deemed flawed by a higher court so often in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 05/30/2009

You are wrong, her decisions have been overturned only 60% by the SCOTUS, but then that percent does not tell the whole story as legal scholars have noted since they only take into consideration those cases which the SCOTUS cherry picks that they wish to review. But forget that point for a moment and under YOUR logic, Justice Alito's decisions while at the appeallate court level has been overturned 100% of the time.

This crap about her termperament is precisely why we need more diversity than white males on the SCOTUS. I'm sure as a hispanic female who graduated at the top of her class at Princeton and was the Editor of the Yale Law Review, a former federal prosecutor, Sonja Sotomayer has had to prove that she was qualified to hold every position she has ever held unlike the likes of Pat Buchanon and the other rethugs who want to label her an Affirmative Action candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 05/30/2009
- bazokbros I'm a Fan of bazokbros 13 fans permalink

Do you want an all about battle of wills on the SCOTUS and decisions slowly being determined by political affiliation or a group that somewhat respects each other and can be willing to compromise every once in a while and consider an opposing viewpoint.

I hate to think we have another Scalia on the bench.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/30/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

you mean all those trust fund babies who were admitted under the segregated Legacy Clauses at the Ivys......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 05/31/2009
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