'Jon & Kate' Stars Being Investigated Over Child Labor Complaint

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MICHAEL RUBINKAM | May 29, 2009 04:49 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Thursday, May 28, 2009, the home of Jon and Kate Gosselin and their eight young children is seen in Wernersville, Pa. Jon, Kate and their eight have attracted a huge TV audience and a state labor investigation. The Pennsylvania Department of Labor says it's looking into whether the hit reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with the state's child labor law, given the tender ages of its stars. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

WERNERSVILLE, Pa. — In a cold dose of reality for reality TV, Pennsylvania's Labor Department has opened an investigation into whether the hit show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with state child labor laws.

The TLC series about two parents raising 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets drew nearly 10 million viewers for its fifth-season premiere Monday _ more than double the audience for its fourth-season finale several weeks ago _ following media reports that the parents, Jon and Kate Gosselin, had cheated on each other. They denied it, but conceded their marriage is in trouble.

TLC said Friday it "fully complies" with state laws and regulations.

The Labor Department received a complaint against the show and is "gathering information" from its representatives, department spokesman Justin Fleming told The Associated Press. Fleming would not say when the complaint was filed or who filed it.

The fact a complaint is being investigated doesn't necessarily mean the department believes the show did anything wrong.

"Any complaint we get, we investigate," Fleming said.

Child actors and other young performers are protected by Pennsylvania labor law, but it's not clear whether the law applies to reality TV. Investigators will have to decide whether the Gosselins' house in southeastern Pennsylvania is essentially a TV set where producers direct much of the action _ in which case the law may apply _ or if it's a home where the kids aren't really working but are simply living their lives, albeit in front of the cameras.

Kate's brother and sister-in-law made waves this week by saying the Gosselins are exploiting their children for financial gain. Jon and Kate Gosselin are reportedly paid tens of thousands of dollars per episode.

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"Unfortunately, I think it has come down to all about the ratings," sister-in-law Jodi Kreider told CBS' "The Early Show." "And no one is looking at these children as what they are going through and the life consequences they are going to have as they get older."

Kreider said the children have told her they don't like the cameras.

Her husband and Kate's brother, Kevin Kreider, said in the same interview: "You can't imagine as a child realizing that my birthday party, that all the outings that my parents took me on were ... for ratings, and all organized by production companies."

TLC spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said in a statement Friday that the network "fully complies with all applicable laws and regulations" for all shows.

"For an extended period of time, we have been engaged in cooperative discussions and supplied all requested information to the Pennsylvania Department of Labor," Goldberg said.

Child labor laws vary by state. Pennsylvania law permits kids who are at least 7 to work in the entertainment industry, as long as a permit is obtained and certain rules are followed. Kids can't generally work after 11:30 p.m., for example, or perform any place that serves alcohol.

The law allows performers younger than 7 to have "temporary employment ... in the production of a motion picture," and spend up to eight hours a day and 44 hours a week on set as long as their "educational instruction, supervision, health and welfare" needs are being met.

In contrast, California has more elaborate rules governing the work of child performers, establishing working hours by age group (20 minutes a day for infants, up to six hours for older kids) and requiring a teacher to be on the set.

"Jon & Kate Plus 8" tapes off and on throughout the year, averaging two to three hours a day, two to three days a week, Goldberg said.

George Voegele, a labor lawyer at Cozen O'Connor in Philadelphia, said the state Labor Department might well decide it doesn't have jurisdiction over the show, especially if investigators determine the cameras are there to document the kids, not direct them.

"The fundamental question I see here is whether or not they're employees, whether they're working, and whether the Pennsylvania child labor law provisions would even apply to this situation," he said.

The Pennsylvania investigation recalls a 2007 controversy surrounding "Kid Nation," a CBS reality show about 40 children given the task of organizing and running their own lives in New Mexico.

The Screen Actors Guild and others suggested the children were being exploited and one trade magazine said the show was skirting New Mexico labor laws by declaring the production a "summer camp." Producers denied the accusations; the show lasted 13 episodes.

Seeking more space for their brood, the Gosselins moved in October into a $1.1 million house on nearly 24 acres with a white picket fence and gated, tree-lined driveway.

A few miles away, in the small town of Wernersville, everyone seems to have an opinion about the sharp-tongued Kate and her long-suffering husband.

Amanda Baez, 32, an assistant at her mother's Wernersville hair salon and an avid watcher of the show, said she's not concerned about the children's welfare.

"This is all the children know, especially the sextuplets since they were babies. They grew up with cameras in their faces. They grew up with the production," she said. "It's probably like having their aunt and uncle with the family video camera just watching you."

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AP Television Writer Frazier Moore contributed to this story from New York.

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- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 92 fans permalink
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You mean these are REAL people? Talk about exploiting children for monetary gain. I will never understand what people see in these so-called 'reality shows.' They are incredibly boring and immature. No wonder there's so little quality programming on the air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/29/2009

agreed 1000%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/29/2009
- logan9 I'm a Fan of logan9 5 fans permalink

And once the contract runs out Jon and Kate are unemployed!

In order to continue paying their luxurious mortgage and living their current lifestyle, they will BOTH need to work... or at least write a book or something. Apparently they did not realize that exploiting your children could eventually backfire!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/29/2009

It is sad that if child labor laws have been broken, by exploiting your children on television it took this long to see a problem. I don’t know if this has anything to do with petitions I’ve seen circulating around the internet, or the sister-in-laws complaints on the Today’s show. I personally think that there should be laws against the lives of children being broadcast on a reality show, they have no say in this matter. If Kate calls her reality show, and traveling “work” then these kids are being forced to work as well.

I think had they only agreed to document their lives for a few seasons, instead of trying to make this into a prime time show for lots of cash, and freebies they wouldn't be having to deal with a lot of the issues they are today..I know that when Jon & Kate first had these 6 children at once they never knew the fame/money that would come from it at first their intentions were probably good, but it has turned into something bigger than they are..it is time to step up, and stop it! This show has not only wrecked havoc on their marriage, and family it has reached outside of that to create Octomom..and until it is stopped their are still women out there that will try to have as many kids as possible to be just like Jon & Kate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/29/2009

Cue the cries for restrictions on fertility treatment, when most of us in that process are having enough trouble creating ONE baby!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 05/29/2009

Nothing in my post pointed to cue the cries on fertility treatment! This show took an unstable woman who already had 6 children & made her think that if she could just have a bunch at one time she would have her own reality show, and she could live like lifestyles of the Rich & Famous. Just for the reason your intention of using fertility treatments is genuine it is naive to think that there are not more people out there like Octomom.

I myself am unable to conceive children, so I don’t think my opinion on this matters any less than your seeking ONE child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 05/29/2009
- PittDude I'm a Fan of PittDude 4 fans permalink

Why blame John and Kate?? If it hasn't been of a nation's obsession with other people's business almost to a level of voyerish or peeping tom attitude in gazing what other's life look like those two clowns do have a wide market of suckers who will turn their TV on and get the sponsors paying tens of thousands per episode. Where I come from they say: The idiots' ignorance feeds the morons' wealth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/29/2009

I blame them because they AGREED to do it. Perhaps if the children aren't pimped by their parents anymore, then Jon and Kate can go and get real jobs. With 8 kids, I promise them they will have no trouble staying faithful to each other then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 05/29/2009
- LMKay66 I'm a Fan of LMKay66 87 fans permalink
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They signed up for this. They had to know that they'd be (in a way) signing their lives away. Suddenly their business is everybody else's business. That's the celebrity lifestyle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/29/2009

Yes. Someone needs to be a voice for these kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 05/29/2009
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 88 fans permalink
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This is a good point. Are these children actors or just being observed in a natural environment? Does the pressure to perform on camera constitute work? If so, aren't we just exploiting these children and depriving them of a proper childhood?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/29/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 138 fans permalink
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Finally. I think that the next season will be "Jon and Kate....In Jail"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/29/2009

For a while there, I thought it was going to be "Jon & Kate Share 8"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/29/2009
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 275 fans permalink

Good, it's about time these so-called reality shows have to follow child labor regulations. TLC is disgusting and I have boycotted them for their explotation of children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/29/2009
- MzTexas I'm a Fan of MzTexas 31 fans permalink

Good, maybe this will stop all these ridiculous shows which exploit these kids. I rarely watch TLC because of its concentration on these mega-families. If somebody wants to have 18-19 kids, I guess that's their business, but let them figure out how to support those 18-19 kids WITHOUT the parents exploiting the children for cash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 05/29/2009
- Pagoas I'm a Fan of Pagoas 20 fans permalink
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they better have a receipt with that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 05/29/2009
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haha, right...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 05/29/2009
- CAMBEL I'm a Fan of CAMBEL 16 fans permalink

I'm just surprised that this wasn't done years ago. Her behavior on the show indicates that she doesn't seem to have any feelings for the children beyond the attention they bring her. She reminds me of those women you read about that purposely make their kids sick so they can get sympathy from friends and neighbors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/29/2009
- mama jenna I'm a Fan of mama jenna 4 fans permalink
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That may be what we see, but we're watching a heavily edited "reality" show. We have no idea what it really feels like to participate in the making of one of these things.

I feel for those kids. They deserve their privacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/29/2009
- LMKay66 I'm a Fan of LMKay66 87 fans permalink
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You couldn't pay me enough to let cameras into the privacy of my home, filming my kids' every move. I think Jon and Kate are depriving their kids of a normal upbringing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/29/2009
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they havent thought it out that far...they're just in it for the big bucks...they'll work out all the emotional/psychological issues later...but for now they r raking in the big bux...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 05/29/2009
- Imhotep40 I'm a Fan of Imhotep40 13 fans permalink
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Please make it stop . . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/29/2009

You've got that right. The appeal of this show mistifies me. It's a great ad for permanent sterility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 05/29/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 138 fans permalink
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hahahaha Indeed! I would like to move to Norway with you to escape this madness!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/29/2009
- ediva75 I'm a Fan of ediva75 11 fans permalink
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I am rather surprised that NOW this is an issue when it should have been of concern to the Penn state department of labor (if the show has been filed in this state) since it has been ON THE AIR!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/29/2009
- sbrown80 I'm a Fan of sbrown80 43 fans permalink

This is so ridiculous. What about child actors? I mean is there such a thing as child actors or did they forget that little reality. Child services needs to help the kids in foster care and stop posturing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 05/29/2009
- ahoyhoy I'm a Fan of ahoyhoy 8 fans permalink
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Yes, and child ACTORS are limited in how long they are allowed to work. These kids are not actors, and they are subjected to cameras capturing their most intimate and emotional REAL-LIFE moments.
And they are filmed day and night.
Did I mention these kids are NOT ACTORS? They were not even consulted in their 'parents' decision to put them on the air. They are not playing a role, they are trying to live their lives.
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/29/2009
- OKSunny I'm a Fan of OKSunny 14 fans permalink

What! I see ZERO child labor in this show. They have a fabulous life and they think of the camera men as family. Give me a break, sounds like someone is jealous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 05/29/2009
- LMKay66 I'm a Fan of LMKay66 87 fans permalink
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Probably they mean whether or not the kids are in front of cameras for too many hours during the day. There are laws for child actors--they have to spend a certain amount of time in school and on the set.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 05/29/2009
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I agree. Very suspicious that this is happening now rather than in the prior 4 seasons. Someone sure is trying to demonize these parents. Shame on them. Must be the greedy sister-in-law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/29/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 138 fans permalink
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What a shocker that you would defend those people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 05/29/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 138 fans permalink
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Yes, how did you know? We are all so jealous of those people, esp. of Kate's hairdo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/29/2009

I'd switch my miserable existence for that household in a heart beat. Screaming kids, infidelity, no privacy. Sounds like a life made in heaven.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/29/2009

Jealous of WHAT? I don't want 8 kids and a failing marriage...let alone cameras documenting every move my family and I make. Most of us don't want that. Perhaps it's you who is jealous?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/29/2009
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