'Jon & Kate' Stars Being Investigated Over Child Labor Complaint

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MICHAEL RUBINKAM | May 29, 2009 04:49 PM EST | AP

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In this photo taken Thursday, May 28, 2009, the home of Jon and Kate Gosselin and their eight young children is seen in Wernersville, Pa. Jon, Kate and their eight have attracted a huge TV audience and a state labor investigation. The Pennsylvania Department of Labor says it's looking into whether the hit reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with the state's child labor law, given the tender ages of its stars. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

WERNERSVILLE, Pa. — In a cold dose of reality for reality TV, Pennsylvania's Labor Department has opened an investigation into whether the hit show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with state child labor laws.

The TLC series about two parents raising 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets drew nearly 10 million viewers for its fifth-season premiere Monday _ more than double the audience for its fourth-season finale several weeks ago _ following media reports that the parents, Jon and Kate Gosselin, had cheated on each other. They denied it, but conceded their marriage is in trouble.

TLC said Friday it "fully complies" with state laws and regulations.

The Labor Department received a complaint against the show and is "gathering information" from its representatives, department spokesman Justin Fleming told The Associated Press. Fleming would not say when the complaint was filed or who filed it.

The fact a complaint is being investigated doesn't necessarily mean the department believes the show did anything wrong.

"Any complaint we get, we investigate," Fleming said.

Child actors and other young performers are protected by Pennsylvania labor law, but it's not clear whether the law applies to reality TV. Investigators will have to decide whether the Gosselins' house in southeastern Pennsylvania is essentially a TV set where producers direct much of the action _ in which case the law may apply _ or if it's a home where the kids aren't really working but are simply living their lives, albeit in front of the cameras.

Kate's brother and sister-in-law made waves this week by saying the Gosselins are exploiting their children for financial gain. Jon and Kate Gosselin are reportedly paid tens of thousands of dollars per episode.

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"Unfortunately, I think it has come down to all about the ratings," sister-in-law Jodi Kreider told CBS' "The Early Show." "And no one is looking at these children as what they are going through and the life consequences they are going to have as they get older."

Kreider said the children have told her they don't like the cameras.

Her husband and Kate's brother, Kevin Kreider, said in the same interview: "You can't imagine as a child realizing that my birthday party, that all the outings that my parents took me on were ... for ratings, and all organized by production companies."

TLC spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg said in a statement Friday that the network "fully complies with all applicable laws and regulations" for all shows.

"For an extended period of time, we have been engaged in cooperative discussions and supplied all requested information to the Pennsylvania Department of Labor," Goldberg said.

Child labor laws vary by state. Pennsylvania law permits kids who are at least 7 to work in the entertainment industry, as long as a permit is obtained and certain rules are followed. Kids can't generally work after 11:30 p.m., for example, or perform any place that serves alcohol.

The law allows performers younger than 7 to have "temporary employment ... in the production of a motion picture," and spend up to eight hours a day and 44 hours a week on set as long as their "educational instruction, supervision, health and welfare" needs are being met.

In contrast, California has more elaborate rules governing the work of child performers, establishing working hours by age group (20 minutes a day for infants, up to six hours for older kids) and requiring a teacher to be on the set.

"Jon & Kate Plus 8" tapes off and on throughout the year, averaging two to three hours a day, two to three days a week, Goldberg said.

George Voegele, a labor lawyer at Cozen O'Connor in Philadelphia, said the state Labor Department might well decide it doesn't have jurisdiction over the show, especially if investigators determine the cameras are there to document the kids, not direct them.

"The fundamental question I see here is whether or not they're employees, whether they're working, and whether the Pennsylvania child labor law provisions would even apply to this situation," he said.

The Pennsylvania investigation recalls a 2007 controversy surrounding "Kid Nation," a CBS reality show about 40 children given the task of organizing and running their own lives in New Mexico.

The Screen Actors Guild and others suggested the children were being exploited and one trade magazine said the show was skirting New Mexico labor laws by declaring the production a "summer camp." Producers denied the accusations; the show lasted 13 episodes.

Seeking more space for their brood, the Gosselins moved in October into a $1.1 million house on nearly 24 acres with a white picket fence and gated, tree-lined driveway.

A few miles away, in the small town of Wernersville, everyone seems to have an opinion about the sharp-tongued Kate and her long-suffering husband.

Amanda Baez, 32, an assistant at her mother's Wernersville hair salon and an avid watcher of the show, said she's not concerned about the children's welfare.

"This is all the children know, especially the sextuplets since they were babies. They grew up with cameras in their faces. They grew up with the production," she said. "It's probably like having their aunt and uncle with the family video camera just watching you."

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AP Television Writer Frazier Moore contributed to this story from New York.

WERNERSVILLE, Pa. — In a cold dose of reality for reality TV, Pennsylvania's Labor Department has opened an investigation into whether the hit show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with state ch...
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- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 68 fans permalink

I first learned about these people when I read about that on HuffPo. I know plenty about Connie Hines and Dorothy Provine (ever heard of them?), but nothing about Jon and Kate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 05/30/2009
- slarabee I'm a Fan of slarabee 28 fans permalink
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I have never watched the show even once and I think these people are freaks but I tell you this it is a stretch for them to be investigated for violations of the child labor act.

The government need to check itself sometimes. How does this happen some idiot gets a wild hair and no one has the common sense or courage to say slow down there skippy back up the bus?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 05/30/2009

Ok Come on Jon. You married Kate in sickness and health! You never thought with all this money! How many married men would be drinking and parting with other ladies? Get the beer our of your hand and keep your thingy in your pants!!! I think fame as ruin both of them. I wonder if they can get back to what they were??????????? What about the kids??? The hell with Jon and Kare

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 05/29/2009
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it is being reported that she went to him six months ago saying the marriage is over.. made out a contract stating he can do what he likes as long as he stays on the show... maybe things are not as they seem...not saying it is right...bu­t it maybe different then we know...as for going back, well everyone knows how hard it is to do that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 05/30/2009

Kate Gosselin is a cold, nasty, shrew who is really rotten to her husband and also seems to have no emotional connection to her kids. She looks very, very self absorbed and not the least bit likeable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 05/29/2009
- Halter I'm a Fan of Halter 9 fans permalink
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Can you imagine what she is like when the cameras are turned off? OCD incarnate. Hope they are saving money for therapy. Jon needs to get a job outside of the house, without cameras for a reality check and for his self esteem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 05/30/2009
- RJPasadena I'm a Fan of RJPasadena 6 fans permalink

If something happened to these children or if in the future they develop social problems relating to living their lives on the tee vee, someone would say " where were other family members? why didn't someone in the family try to protect these children? If It were me and my neices and nephews told me they did not like being on tee vee all the time, I would confront my brother and sister-in-law. If they continued and my nieces continued to complain, I would do everything in my power to protect them from their parents who are blinded by $$$'s. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT JEALOUSY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 05/29/2009
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Jon and Kate get a court date.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 05/29/2009
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SINCE WHEN IS IT LEGAL TO FILM HOSTAGES S$HITING FOR THE CAMERAS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 05/29/2009

Ssh - inside voice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 05/29/2009
- XCITIZEN I'm a Fan of XCITIZEN 68 fans permalink
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Indeed - the kids are hostages. And you're right. You comment sounds flippant, but it puts it right into perspective - good job. Here in America we're sooo obsessed about preventing gays from marrying, meanwhile, straight couples are abusing their children on national TV and millions are tuning in every night to watch and cheer them on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 05/30/2009

I am no fan of this show and I think Kate is horrid. But what is the big concern about the kids? They're not being followed around 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week. It's a few days a wk for a few hrs on those days. And in return they have financial security and opportunities most don't have. It may not be a picnic but neither is poverty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 05/29/2009
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you've got 2 be kidding?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 05/30/2009
- marcain I'm a Fan of marcain 6 fans permalink
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Perhaps the sister-in-law is a little jealous of the fame and money being made. But, it's probable in 20 years at least one of those kids will snap in a big way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 05/29/2009
- PunKinPai I'm a Fan of PunKinPai 23 fans permalink
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In my experience, if you have eight kids chances are at least one will go off-track anyway. How come nobody's looking into the queen be of reality TV, Ms. Duggar? If any child on reality TV is somehow being "abused" or "exploited," how about the family with 18 of 'em?

I don't think any of this is abuse. It's different than most of our lives. It creates more income than most of us make. Therefore it's bad? Give me a break. To claim this is abuse is jealousy or busybody syndrome, and worse, it trivializes real child abuse. You know, the kind with bruises and broken bones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/30/2009
- alaskan I'm a Fan of alaskan 2 fans permalink
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I was so with you right up until the very last sentence! "Real child abuse" doesn't always include bruises or broken bones. That's a dangerous myth that keeps a lot of kids blaming themselves for flagrantly abusive parents.

So few people can actually define what "domestic abuse" or "child abuse" actually is. Frankly, it's terrifying how often "real abuse" is considered normal. Physical abuse is no more traumatic than emotional or verbal abuse, contrary to popular opinion. It's just easier to prosecute.

That said, I haven't seen anything on "Jon and Kate Plus 8" that appears abusive to the children, and I agree that calling the Gosselins abusive because they allow cameras in their home does trivialize real child abuse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 05/30/2009

What is this woman's claim to fame? Just that she gave birth from a litter and is parading her kids around for personal gain. She really is a woman and mother from hell. Why do we reward women who give birth to litters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/29/2009
- TigersEye I'm a Fan of TigersEye 55 fans permalink
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They are a circus sideshow that makes a lot of money for TLC. Shows like this should be banned for slowing the mental development of their audience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 05/29/2009
- rivahcat I'm a Fan of rivahcat 6 fans permalink
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TLC (which USED to stand for The Learning Channel) is no longer educational; they have sunk to a low common denominator in their programming. The only thing this type of show "learns" one is what people will resort to for ca$h.

Still, these litter-bearing humammals are welcome to have the kids I never had or wanted to have. Guess they're just propagating the species, huh? (snicker)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 05/30/2009
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Again a lady who had TO MANY children and is glorifed By turning her family into a BRAND-shut em down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 05/29/2009
- ssfahrer I'm a Fan of ssfahrer 5 fans permalink

See my comment below.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 05/29/2009
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 23 fans permalink
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I doubt Jon cheated on Kate as his life would be hell if he did as if probably is now for his supposed drinking with females. Any man can have a drink in a bar and talk to random women and be said to be having drinks with women other than his wife/girlfirend etc. If Jon met up with someone he knows then talked to the woman damn he is sleeping with her, right? His stupid was letting the woman drive his car while in the parking lot and knowing cameras follow them around. The stress of mega large families plus too many in your face and business daily is bad enough. Training your many kids in how to act/talk/walk/smile in front of cameras from birth isn't a great thing but stage moms have done it and the kids survived. These kids have been made into a show to provide them with things and vacations and hopefully educations might be a saving thing. There has to be a complaint in Ca to be "investigated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/29/2009
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Ah,the original Octo-Mom and her cuckold.
Man,I wish these parasites would go the hell away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 05/29/2009
- PunKinPai I'm a Fan of PunKinPai 23 fans permalink
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I wish you'd just change the channel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 05/31/2009
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The worst has to be when the little ones were going through potty training. Kate took pictures of their bowel movements and showed them to family and friends! Oh, that is good for about a month on an analyst's couch!

Can you imagine being about 8 years old and one of your mean cousins knowing there is a picture of your poop in your mom's house??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 05/29/2009
- cactusgal I'm a Fan of cactusgal 109 fans permalink

The only thing that surprises me is that she didn't see a religious icon in the poop and try to sell it on Ebay

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/29/2009
- happycat I'm a Fan of happycat 124 fans permalink
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You just gave me my keys to a million dollars. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 05/29/2009
- lmvd3 I'm a Fan of lmvd3 18 fans permalink

Kate certainly has quite a cruel streak, doesn't she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 05/29/2009
- Whalen1776 I'm a Fan of Whalen1776 4 fans permalink
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DOUG!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 05/29/2009
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