Schwarzenegger Would Close 220 State Parks To Cut Deficit

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SAMANTHA YOUNG | May 29, 2009 04:58 PM EST | AP

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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger discusses the state budget deficit while talking with reporters at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Thursday, May 28, 2009. Schwarzenegger is expected to announce, Friday, that he will seek an additional five percent pay cut from state employees in an attempt to trim an expected $24.3 billion budget deficit.(AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget cuts could mean the closing of up to 220 state parks, among them the home of the world's tallest tree and other attractions that draw millions of visitors. Schwarzenegger this week recommended eliminating $70 million in parks spending through June 30, 2010. An additional $143.4 million would be saved in the following fiscal year by keeping the parks closed.

"This is a worst-case scenario," said Roy Sterns, a spokesman at the state parks department. "If we can do less than this, we will try. But under the present proposal, this is it."

Among the parks that could be closed, the parks department said Thursday, are Lake Tahoe's Emerald Bay, Will Rogers' Southern California ranch and Humboldt Redwoods State Park, which boasts the world's tallest tree, a giant that tops 370 feet. Even the Governor's Mansion in Sacramento is on the list.

The Legislature last year rejected the governor's proposal to close 48 state parks. But lawmakers said that with California's budget deficit now at $24.3 billion, the situation is so dire that it is likely some parks will close.

"Things that were previously dead on arrival are a lot more viable in a crisis like this," said Democrat Jared Huffman, chairman of the Assembly's parks and wildlife committee. "I think some cuts are coming to the parks, and they'll be cuts I won't like and the public won't like."

The state parks department said a $70 million cut would leave it with enough money to run just 59 of California's 279 state parks.

The state's famed park system attracts nearly 80 million visitors a year. William Randolph Hearst's Castle on the Central Coast and a dozen other so-called moneymakers would remain open, as would many Southern California beaches that attract millions of visitors year round.

But others that could close include: Fort Ross State Historic Park, the southernmost Russian settlement in North America; Bodie State Historic Park, one of the best-preserved Old West ghost towns; and Big Basin Redwoods, the oldest state park.

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The proposal has angered conservationists and some Democrats in the Legislature, who say California's parks are treasured spots that help the state and local economy.

"State parks draw tourism to California," State Parks Foundation president Elizabeth Goldstein said. "This proposal makes the budget situation worse."

The foundation estimates the state gets a $2.35 return for every dollar it spends on parks.

California spends roughly $400 million a year running 279 state parks and beaches, with roughly a third of the money coming from the state general fund. The rest comes from user fees, which account for slightly more than a quarter of the revenue; bond funds; gasoline taxes; federal money; and other sources.

Assembly Minority Leader Mike Villines said the state cannot afford to subsidize state parks when lawmakers are being asked to make severe cuts in even more vital areas.

"Parks are just not going to be a priority over public safety and education, as much as we hate to see them close," Villines said.

At least 2,000 park rangers, biologists, lifeguards, interpreters, architects and maintenance workers would be laid off if the proposal is adopted, said Sterns, the parks spokesman.

The layoffs would be in addition to 5,000 state positions the governor has already recommended cutting.

"When you cut that much, you have to let go highly trained teams of biologists that you can't get back in a year or two," Huffman said. "It's a myth to think you can mothball the entire system. These cuts will cripple the park system for a decade or more."

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget cuts could mean the closing of up to 220 state parks, among them the home of the world's tallest tree and other attractions that draw mil...
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget cuts could mean the closing of up to 220 state parks, among them the home of the world's tallest tree and other attractions that draw mil...
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I live in Lake Tahoe.. I know many State Park employs, and know for a fact that they are lazy and spoiled with are tax dollars.. I hate to think that I am paying state park employs to drive out in the woods and sleep in the ford F-350's.."­rediculous­" The only thing I know worse then state parks was the local union 803 Pipe fitters that I was a part of for six months, and had to move on because I was not able to sit around all day and do nothing.. Stephen Knott

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 06/12/2009

THE GOVENATOR NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND TAKE A WALK IN ONE OF CALIFORNIA'S BEAUTIFUL STATE PARKS.
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IT IS ESTIMATED THE PARKS HAVE ABOUT 80 MILLION VISITORS A YEAR. THESE VISITORS PUMP A MINIMUM OF $2.25 DOLLARS IN TAXES INTO THE ECONOMY. IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY 147 MILLION DOLLARS TO RUN THE STATE PARK SYSTEM THAT IS ABOUT 180 MILLION IN TAX DOLLARS. THUS THE PARKS MAKE AN INDIRECT PROFIT OF 33 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PROFITABLE PARKS THAT ARE BEING LEFT OPEN. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PROFITS FROM GIFT SHOPS, CAMPING AND BOAT LAUNCHING. NOW IF EACH VISITOR TO A PARK PAYED A MINIMUM OF $2 PER VISIT THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 160 MILLION IN PROFIT.

THUS THE PARKS WOULD BE PROFITABLE ON BOTH A DIRECT AND INDIRECT BASIS. THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. AND THE GOVENATOR IS NOT A ROCKET SCIENTIST.

AFTER ALL THE GOVENATOR IS THE SAME PERSON WHO SAID THE 4-5 BILLION DOLLARS SPENT ON THE CARE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS DOESN'T EFFECT OUR BUDGET. IN WHOSE LIFE TIME DID THAT BECOME TRUE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 06/09/2009

just got an email response from The Terminator, defending what he's done for our state's environment, and how sorry he is to close the 220 state parks.
my response:

YOU HAVE NOT MADE IT A PRIORITY TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
you've continued to undermine and privatize programs and cut state programs and lift corporate environment laws that have endangered our wild animals and now our state parks.
Shame on you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, for deceiving the people of California.

Sincerely,
Lisa Nemzo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 06/09/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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I'm sure the kids getting college fee hikes and no loans just love you!

The parks will still be there even when closed, but a education, job and starting a family stems from getting in a good school.

Everyone has their little turf they want to protect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 06/14/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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I have been in California State parks, but do not stay in them.

HAVE YOU BEEN TO STATE PARKS LATELY.

Most of the people staying in state parks now are older couples in their huge motor homes.
http://www.snowbirdproperties.net/images/uploaded/9238.jpg

The state has allocated most spaces to these monsters now, since they can charge three times as much. Most of these RV people do little hiking and stay inside the RV watching re-runs of Gilligan's Island while running their air conditioners!

I now camp on BLM land, since the state parks sound like a generator farm at night. You can no longer enjoy the quiet, fresh air, or stars, with the noise, air, and light pollution that these RVs bring with them.

You can close the parks, but it would not stop true outdoor people that camp and hike in the places where these monsters can not go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 06/14/2009
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 42 fans permalink

Hey, its the beginning of the biggest tourist season here, tourism is a great source of revenue and jobs, and we really need revenue and jobs, so I have an idea. Let's discourage tourism as much as we can by closing our state parks, releasing prisoners, and removing the social safety net, thus greatly increasing the incentive for begging and robbery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 06/01/2009
- Mary Cruse I'm a Fan of Mary Cruse 7 fans permalink
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Absolutely on target. Cutting out services for mental health and drug and alcohol programs, more prisoners, less funding for education, massive foreclosures and increasing layoffs. The perfect time to cut 80 % of our State Parks . . . during peak tourist season. For a rural are like Humboldt County with most of our State Parks on the chopping block... this will devastate our economy. Many businesses rely on the visiting tourists during the summer months to get them through the rest of the year. And for travelers who opt for a more economical travel option, or simply enjoy camping - I guess they will have to stay home and watch more TV. Couch vacations - fun for the whole family.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 06/04/2009
- hugs4u I'm a Fan of hugs4u 10 fans permalink

Calif could save millions by shutting the hospital doors and everything else to the illegal aliens from the south.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 06/01/2009
- andhakari I'm a Fan of andhakari 5 fans permalink

I think it's time for a whole new California constitution. The government is broken. Adults fix problems, not just complain about the "other" guy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 06/01/2009

The extremist Greens who insist on kllling our jobs through cap & trade carbon emmission taxes are getting their comuppins. This is just the beginning ... wait for when the National Parks must sell their old growth forests. Then watch the drilling begin. Then strip mining. Then almost all the park employees will be cast into the economic abyss, forced to eat their young to survive.

Welcome to the $600 billion carbon tax

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 05/31/2009
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you comment leads me to believe that you must be watching a lot of television, yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 06/01/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Please move to Alaska where you belong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 06/14/2009

Send all the undocumented illegal leeches back to where they came from and California would be a better place.

Including the illegal alien prisoners.

Then the state could use the money that is wasted on those who have no right to it to fix the budget.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 05/31/2009
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 42 fans permalink

Your dehumanizing rhetoric would be bad enough in any case, but we don't even need to have that conversation because your facts are also completely wrong. The amount of money saved by the acting on your suggestion, if any, would be so far short of fixing California's budget problems, it would be like trying to buy a house with a postage stamp - no, not a rare, valuable stamp, and not enough postage to mail a house, just a plain 44-cent stamp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 06/01/2009

At least it would be a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 06/01/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Yes.

This will have to be addressed by both the Southern State Governors and Obama before any health care reform is done.

We need to stop anchor babies and other totally free health care and benefits. Mexico's rich just love us! How do you spell welfare in Mexico??? C A L I F O R N I A

Also ask yourself how many times each of us pay cash for cleaning people, gardeners, car wash tips;etc. NONE of this money we pay these people is taxed, and a lot goes back to Mexico, which hurts our economy and tax base.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 06/14/2009

California legislators will have a hearing on the closures Tuesday June 2. Lots of California groups that support parks will be there and are planning speak up to protect California parks.

One example of a important park slated for closure is Mono Lake. Decades were spent fighting to protect the lake from excessive water diversions to Los Angeles. Now LA and the lake are both getting the water they need but the state wants to walk away from the Mono Lake state park?

To send a letter in support of Mono Lake and all California parks visit:

http://www.monolake.org/today/2009/05/29/action-alert-mono-lake-bodie-state-parks-proposed-for-closure/

and

http://www.savestateparks.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 05/31/2009
- sculptor I'm a Fan of sculptor 7 fans permalink

Hey, the state can't afford to staff the park... Would you rather see Mono Lake thrown open to the public (vandalism and all) without any supervision???

Wouldn't it be better than complaining to put together a private coalition to help raise funding to staff sites like Mono Lake? I'm sure if you came up with the funding that the state would be happy to keep them open.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 06/01/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Here is the solution.

You and other rich bleeding hearts can quit their good paying jobs and volunteer to keep the park(s) open. Our maybe you can get some of the zillions of retired people in California to run the parks for free. It would keep them busy and out of trouble, and they would be on vacation at the same time. Hmmmm....That sounds good like a good idea.

The bottom line is THERE IS NO MONEY to run the parks and pay the insurance to keep them open. Get over it! I have been to Mono Lake many times. It sucks. If you miss it, get a glass of warm water and put a cup of salt in it, than pour it on yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 06/01/2009
- Mary Cruse I'm a Fan of Mary Cruse 7 fans permalink
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And what about the thousands of tourist-related business owners that are or are not bleeding hearts, but hard-working tax-paying Americans trying to make an honest buck? Should they just stay home (since their business is dead) and get a glass of warm water with a cup of salt and pour it in to their wounds???
There are other solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 06/04/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 67 fans permalink
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Saying they are going to close Big Basin Park is like telling me I can't go in my backyard anymore.
This is nuts. What about all the small businesses that rely on tourists for our local revenue? This might save some money but will kill business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/31/2009

Tax corporations taking oil out of the ground in California, just as in Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/31/2009

What a GOP move, kill your tourist industry, that will fill your coffers again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/31/2009

Ahnold, dahling. The answer to all of California financial woes is to across the board raise taxes. Raise taxes on everything. Especially on anyone or anything making over 250K a year. That means you Ahnold, sweetie, and all your Republican friends who think that society and private domains can exist without paying for the foundation of the State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 05/31/2009
- neve I'm a Fan of neve 7 fans permalink

In case u haven't heard, the VOTERS have VETOED and tax increases.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/31/2009

Yes and if you asked the VOTERS to vote on these 220 parks closing, guess what they'd PROBABLY say?

I mean, kudos for realizing that VOTERS want EVERYTHING INCLUDING: low taxes, and lots of pretty parks...

Doesn't mean they understand the "give and take" involved between the two...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 05/31/2009
- lylo I'm a Fan of lylo 5 fans permalink

In that case, they kind of deserve everything.
Bummer about the parks, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 05/31/2009
- DoTheMath I'm a Fan of DoTheMath 42 fans permalink

"Tax increases" were not on the ballot. Read the propositions. They're on the left side of the page: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 06/01/2009
- oddjob1138 I'm a Fan of oddjob1138 3 fans permalink

They already tried that in Feb. They raised the sales tax. They raised the car tax. Doubled it in fact. They are charging us a 5% fee on what we pay in taxes to the state. They reduced our child credit from $300 per kid to $99 per kid. Sales tax in LA County is not 9.75%. What are you paying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 05/31/2009
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Hey TierraDelFuego,

If I was making over 250,000, I would just move to another state and leave finger pointers like you and the illegal aliens to pay their OWN bills.

YOU CAN RAISE TAXES, but it is not the total solution. Living within a sound budget is the answer.

People in California have been living high on the hog the last 25 years. It is time to get real, and cut back and make people pay for the free services we are now providing. The state no longer has the tax base due to companies relocating, outsourcing, and the growing retired population.
Most of the problem is free health care to many poor illegal aliens. This is the number one problem according to the state controller. If you don't believe me you can check the budget expenses on the state web site, or bury your head in the sand and try and ignore it like we have been doing for years.

http://www.sco.ca.gov/eo_news_fiscalissues.html
http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 06/01/2009
- ssfahrer I'm a Fan of ssfahrer 5 fans permalink

Perhaps we should consider closing HOLLYWOOD (and its immoral 'entertainment industry' ) as well!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 05/31/2009

The govenor has tried three times to fix the budget. Not once, not twice, but three times and special interest groups and the legislation has stopped that progress. But don't worry. The President will have us fix that too. Just point more money we don't have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/31/2009

**********­********RE­CALL SCHWARZENEGGER (I don't care to learn the correct spelling of his name)*****­**********­**********­***


he deserves to be recalled a lot more than Grey Davis did!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/31/2009
- lylo I'm a Fan of lylo 5 fans permalink

lol
I tend to agree about the spelling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 05/31/2009
- gbee I'm a Fan of gbee 21 fans permalink
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Sadly, Arnold isn't the problem. Lets say you get your way and he's gone tomorrow, I wouldn't grieve ether, but the state's problems would be UNCHANGED. As you pointed out, Gray Davis could do nothing with the states problems either - that should be a clue that the problem isn't mainly the personalities involved. You want to live in a nice state? Well then, you must pay for it, period. If you don't have the money or the political will to raise the money, well then, things are going to suffer. In my opinion, It is our proposition process that needs to be recalled. ever since Prop13, the initiative process has done nothing but enable the most vocal, but unrealistic of Californians to drive the state right into the ground, while taking away not only the power of the state legislature, but also their will to govern responsibly. Why bother when all you have to do is get some ill-conceived proposition on the ballot, fund it, and pull the wool over the eyes of a selfish and gullible public.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 05/31/2009
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