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First Posted: 05-29-09 09:02 AM   |   Updated: 05-29-09 12:41 PM

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Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage.

The move is being hailed as "an unprecedented effort to crack down on self-serving edits," and it is the first instance in which Wikipedia has banned a group as large as the Church of Scientology.

The Register reports:

According to evidence turned up by admins in this long-running Wikiland court case, multiple editors have been "openly editing [Scientology-related articles] from Church of Scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities." Leaning on the famed WikiScanner, countless news stories have discussed the editing of Scientology articles from Scientology IPs, and some site admins are concerned this is "damaging Wikipedia's reputation for neutrality."


One admin tells The Reg that policing edits from Scientology machines has been particularly difficult because myriad editors sit behind a small number of IPs and, for some reason, the address of each editor is constantly changing. This prevents admins from determining whether a single editor is using multiple Wikipedia accounts to game the system. In Wikiland, such sockpuppeting is not allowed.


The Wikicourt considered banning edits from Scientology IPs only on Scientology-related articles. But this would require admins to "checkuser" editors - i.e. determine their IP - every time an edit is made. And even then they may not know who's who.

The case — the fourth Scientology-related dispute on the site in four years — opened in December 2008 and closed Thursday with the Wikipedia arbitration committee voting unanimously to block IP addresses associated with the Church from editing the site.

"The purpose of Wikipedia is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors," part of the decision read. "Use of the encyclopedia to advance personal agendas - such as advocacy or propaganda and philosophical, ideological or religious dispute - or to publish or promote original research is prohibited."

"Editors who access Wikipedia through an organization's IP address and who edit Wikipedia articles which relate to that organization have a presumptive conflict of interest," it continued. "Regardless of these editors' specific relationship to that organization or function within it, the organization itself bears a responsibility for appropriate use of its servers and equipment. If an organization fails to manage that responsibility, Wikipedia may address persistent violations of fundamental site policies through blocks or bans."

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Scientology, the committee concluded, is so controversial a subject that it requires special oversight for the site's purposes:

3.0) This longstanding dispute is a struggle between two rival factions: admirers of Scientology and critics of Scientology.


A) Editors from each side have gamed policy to obtain advantage and disputes have spilled over into, for example, articles for deletion, the reliable sources noticeboard, the conflict of interests noticeboard, and sometimes the administrators' noticeboard.


B) Aggravating factors have been (i) the presence of editors openly editing from Church of Scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities; and (ii) the apparent presence of notable critics of Scientology, from several Internet organisations, apparently editing under their own names and citing either their own or each other's self-published material.


C) Each side wishes the articles within this topic to reflect their point of view and have resorted to battlefield editing tactics, with edits being abruptly reverted without any attempt to incorporate what is good, to maintain their preferred status quo.


D) The worst casualties have been biographies of living people, where attempts have been repeatedly made to slant the article either towards or against the subject, depending on the point of view of the contributing editor.


E) However, this problem is not limited to biographies and many Scientology articles fail to reflect a neutral point of view and instead are either disparaging or complimentary.

Read the full decision here.

Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage. ...
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- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

Comic Zantor, you say Scientology operates like a cult? Gee really? I suppose the "cult of Christ" as it was known didn't? I really don't mean offense, but have you ever taken a course on theology? If so, you would know that all new religions are called, considered, and behave as a cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/29/2009
- larissa68 I'm a Fan of larissa68 6 fans permalink

Are you incapable of replying to people via the comments? Stop top posting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 05/29/2009
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He's a Scientology spammer trying to change the subject. If you are not, respond to me and we'll have a conversation about it so I don't get the trufax wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 05/29/2009
- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

GetOffMyLawn: "Scientology is a crappy scam, well, more of a pyramid scheme with expensive mind dumbing classes and a political agenda then a church."

As opposed to other religions? What world are you living in kid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 05/29/2009
- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

Since my other post didn't make it:

Scientology is a tiny tiny tiny religion that bares absolutely no consequence in your life or the world. Islam and Christianity on the other hand...Wel­l in particular extremist muslims, cut people's heads off and blow themselves up, Christianity tells Africans that condoms are bad, so H.I.V continues to spread like wild fire...But yes I realize it's easier just to keep bashing little ol' Scientology in order to make yourselves feel better.

I'm not a Scientologist, but I like it when people think for themselves and don't buy into jargon that is fed to them. It's just like all the talk about how Scientology costs so much money. Why do you care? When's the last time a Scientologist knocked on your door trying to convert you? The answer is never. Scientologist only bother other Scientologist into taking more courses. And to those who talk about the "money" it takes, I guess you haven't been to a Baptist mega church lately or read any books about all the real estate holdings of the Vatican. All I ask of you, is to read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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There was more truth in that comment than any I have heard from you.
But, they do try to recruit by preying on the gullible, just not by knocking on doors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 05/29/2009
- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

AmandaBC, you say "only if you have a great lawyer." Can you please tell me the last time Scientology has sued a person? Surely, you're not still using the same old news from the 90's? I don't remember Keith Olberman, Bill Maher, Jon Stewart or anyone else that makes fun of them or criticizes them being sued. So please, remind me? I'm very curious as to the year of the last time the church has sued an individual. Please AmandaBC, please tell me you don't just write comments based on things you hear second hand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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Ever heard of the Operation Clambake website? The guy who runs it was sued by Scientology. Repeatedly.

http://www.xenu.net

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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AmandaBC, made a joke, based on the reputation the CoS has for being extremely litigious. And they didn't get that reputation for no reason.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Church+of+Scientology+sues%22&hl=en&start=10&sa=N

And I have certainly heard Bill Maher and Jon Stewart criticize all other religion/cults too.
Lighten up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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A Ron Paul Scientologist sounds like everyone's worst nightmare.­.. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 05/29/2009
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Google is your best friend. My name is NOT google. Oh hai David Miscaviage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 05/29/2009

In HAWAII, the Chris Butler[Jagad Guru] cult, Science of Identity Foundation,
and their longtime political operative,
State Senator Mike Gabbard[Krishna Das] are doing the same thing !

Using internet skills honed by running on-line businesses, they are trying to "sanitize" any negative Wikipedia comments and harassing web sites trying to shed light on their activities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 05/29/2009
- smi2le I'm a Fan of smi2le 2 fans permalink

The Vatican was caught editing wikipedia sites several years ago. Have they been banned also?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 05/29/2009
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The Vatican doesn't thugs out to destroy your reputation. The Vatican doesn't charge you money to learn what they believe. The Vatican doesn't refuse life-saving psychiatric care. The Vatican doesn't make all your friends and family cut themselves off.

The Vatican doesn't force you to have an abortion. The Vatican actually pays a fair wage to its workers.

All things the Church of Scientology takes the opposite approach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 05/29/2009
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Wikipedia is crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 05/29/2009
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First comment ever, huh? You are very passionate about Wikipedia!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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This being his/her first post, is it reasonable to assume that he/she is probably a scientologist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/29/2009
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Scientology is a crappy scam, well, more of a pyramid scheme with expensive mind dumbing classes and a political agenda then a church. This science fiction joke will take your money and help you screw up every friend and family relationship you may have outside of the pay cult.

Wikipedia is cool, and they made the right decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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"Scientology is a crappy scam"

That is precisely why it's illegal in so many countries.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/29/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 276 fans permalink

Is this going to be a long term problem with Wiki?

How many other true believers will work to distort reality as reported in Wiki?

We will need reputable organizations presenting their thoughts more than ever.

Check the sources on any Wiki article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 05/29/2009
- GodIs I'm a Fan of GodIs 13 fans permalink
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Notice that the demons in Matthew 8:29 asked Jesus if He had come to torment them. He|| is a place of torment. Demons kn0w that judgment day is approaching.
Presently, many of the demons are free to roam about through the earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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Freely?
Are they exempt from taxes too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 05/29/2009
- phlashba I'm a Fan of phlashba 14 fans permalink

And most of them roam around throughout the southern part of the United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 05/29/2009
- Bongborg I'm a Fan of Bongborg 91 fans permalink
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Is that where all the trolls are coming from? I thought it was just a bunch of slack-jawed Young Republicans getting some paid intern work from the RNC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 05/29/2009
- GodIs I'm a Fan of GodIs 13 fans permalink
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As on earth, there will be a weekly gathering of the righteous in Heaven to worship the Creator on Sunday mornings.
On our way to Church, there will be a window through which He|| may be viewed. We'll gaze at the torturred bodies of the unrepentant and the infidels and hear the wailing of the lost, tormented with fire and brimstone for all eternity. The window will serve as a vivid reminder to the redeemed about the consequences of sin.
This leads many people to ask, “How can I rejoice in the Heavenly abode knowing full well that a close family member has been condemnd to He||?”
In Heaven, the righteous will fully comprehend the exceeding sinfulness of sin. They will understand God's perspective. They will look upon those iniquitous family members with utter contempt, guilty sinners who deserve their fiery fate.
God is love.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 05/29/2009
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"They will look upon those iniquitous family members with utter contempt, guilty sinners who deserve their fiery fate."

God is love? Satire?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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You betcha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/29/2009
- 4KixAfter6 I'm a Fan of 4KixAfter6 64 fans permalink
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I was thinking the same thing, that doesn't sound very Christianey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 05/29/2009
- bobbyperu I'm a Fan of bobbyperu 6 fans permalink
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I always look forward to your posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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Come on GodIs, that's a repeat post, you can do better than that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 05/29/2009
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Seems like GodIs tries to choose appropriate sermons. lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/29/2009

Even though I'm 90% convinced your posts are satire, it's pretty lazy to just copy/paste your own posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 05/29/2009
- larissa68 I'm a Fan of larissa68 6 fans permalink

Drugs are not your friend

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 05/29/2009
- Bongborg I'm a Fan of Bongborg 91 fans permalink
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Maybe they don't like him, but they have always been friendly to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 05/29/2009

Yesterday, in the tiny part-time branch library in the tiny town where I live, I was looking through the old books for sale and came upon two sealed copies of a DVD called, "Scientology: an Overview". The librarian had no idea where they'd come from. Even in a one-horse town like mine we're not safe from their propaganda.

The blurb says the DVD "presents more than 80 videos describing the basic beliefs and practices of the Scientology religion". Notwithstanding, the DVDs make very attractive coasters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 05/29/2009
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The librarian did it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 05/29/2009
- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

So they charge a lot of money to find this out? Again, why do you care? When's the last time a Scientologist knocked on your door and tried to convert you? The answer is, never. Scientologists hound other Scientologist for "more courses" "more auditing"- they don't even bother with non scientologists. Furthermore, have any of you been to a Baptist church lately? They're mega complexes. And let's not even get into the Catholic church's wealth.

And then I read, "Well no other church sues journalist­s." Again, this is ancient and outdated info. Everyone makes fun of Scientology now, and the Church of Scientology no longer sues anyone. And by the way, can someone explain to me why it's so weird that a new religion/cult, would attack those who disagree with them? Again, and I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but do any of you read history or the accounts of early cults called Islam and Christianity? Keep in mind, Islam didn't spread due to their great ideas, it spread based on the sword.

Scientology is a tiny religion that bares absolutely no consequence in your life or the world. Islam and Christianity on the other hand...Wel­l particular muslims cut people's heads off and blow themselves up, Christianity tells Africans that condoms are bad, so H.I.V continues to spread like wild fire...But yes I realize it's easier just to keep bashing little ol' Scientology in order to make yourselves feel better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 05/29/2009
- RonPaulFan I'm a Fan of RonPaulFan 4 fans permalink

The reason why most of you on this blog, and tv shows such as The Daily Show, and Bill Maher, Keith Olberman, Bill O'Reilly, etc. all ridicule and bash Scientology, is because it's SAFE to ridicule Scientology. Notice that Wiki is not doing this to editors of Islam, Christianity or Judaism. I've read comments saying, "But they believe in Aliens." To that I say, so what? How is that your business, and why is that so weird?

I read that they're weird because they're against anti depression/anxiety meds, etc. So is the University of Maryland a Scientology school? After all, they recently released a disturbing study, which found that American children are FOUR TIMES more likely to be on anti anxiety medication than European children. And yet European children have free health insurance. Do any of you find that strange? All that is happening, is our kids are becoming zombies while big pharma makes more billions of dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/29/2009
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It comes as a real shock to me that a wRong Paul groupie doesn't recognize a sarcastic remark when he sees it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 05/29/2009
- T1M I'm a Fan of T1M permalink

RonPaulFan, are you a Scientologist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 05/29/2009

Must we all declare our belief systems in order to comply with this blog? Are you kidding, we still enjoy freedom of religion in this Country. I say ROCK ON Scientology, you all must be doing something right to stir up so much evil coming after you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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RP is as much a k00k as any Scientologist.

"The UN also wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the world’s oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world."

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2444

"Being Pro-Life Is Necessary to Defend Liberty"

http://www.l4l.org/library/bepro-rp.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/29/2009
- kwinter I'm a Fan of kwinter 64 fans permalink
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"The reason why most of you on this blog ... ridicule and bash Scientology, is because it's SAFE to ridicule Scientolog­y."

I don't limit my criticism to scientology.
I think all beliefs are absurd if they have to be taken on faith alone (with no evidence).
Scientology, xianity, islam, mormonism, hinduism, etc. ... all absurd.
And I feel perfectly SAFE, saying so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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"it's SAFE to ridicule Scientology"

Only if you have lots of $$$ to throw away for a great lawyer... ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 05/29/2009

Bill Maher mocks religions all the time, in almost every episode. He just released a movie that is essentially a mockery of all forms of organized religion.

Say what you want about Scientology arguments against psychology, but they still operate like a cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 05/29/2009
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Scientology is ridiculous, thus the ridicule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/29/2009

I find it hilarious that the google ad at the bottom of the article is for the Church of Scientology!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/29/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 596 fans permalink
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Keyword advertising. Creepy, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/29/2009
- Ergon I'm a Fan of Ergon 82 fans permalink
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Tom Cruise got the US ambassador to nag Germany when it banned Scientology. Didn't work, and it took a while before they even allowed him to film Valkyrie in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/29/2009
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Europe has prudently gone secular, and is living in relative peace because of that. But the process took time. Religion serves to fuel wwars and encourage division. Bravo to Germany for banning (whatever that means) another cult from taking up residence in their country to hoodwink citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 05/29/2009
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