Omar Edwards Shot By Fellow Officer Andrew Dunton

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COLLEEN LONG | May 30, 2009 11:46 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — It's a police officer's nightmare scenario: Confronting someone who appears to be an armed suspect and opening fire, only to discover that person was actually an officer not in uniform.

It's the kind of mistake that haunts a department, opens it to scrutiny, and dominates headlines. While the phenomenon has happened around the country, New York is home to several cases in the past few years.

But friendly fire incidents with police are fairly rare, according to federal statistics, likely a testament to procedures in place in police departments around the country.

"There's an awareness by police departments that this is a very high risk," Jim Cohen, a professor of criminal law at Fordham Law School, said Saturday. "The rules are pounded into these officers in training, and continued training, using their guns when other cops are around."

Late Thursday, Officer Omar J. Edwards, 25, was shot by a fellow officer on a Harlem street while in street clothes. He had just finished his shift, and had his service weapon out, chasing a man who had broken into his car, police said. Three plainclothes officers on routine patrol arrived at the scene and yelled for the two to stop, police said. One officer, Andrew Dunton, opened fire and hit Edwards three times as he turned toward them with his service weapon. It wasn't until medical workers were on scene that it was determined he was a police officer.

Now, investigators are working to determine whether anyone was at fault. Witnesses are being re-interviewed and many questions remain, specifically whether Edwards identified himself as an officer, and whether Dunton's split-second judgment to fire was against department guidelines. The district attorney will likely convene a grand jury to decide whether to file charges against Dunton, as is practice for police-involved shootings. After, he will be interviewed by police. Dunton's attorney had no comment.

But NYPD procedure for officer confrontation places the responsibility on the out-of-uniform officers. They are instructed to drop their weapon, stay still and to obey all directions from the uniformed officers to defuse the tense situation.

In the police academy, officers get weeks of intense training on what they call confrontations with role playing, as well as lectures on the subject. Training continues on the subject when officers leave the academy. After the shooting Thursday, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly switched on-the-job training for officers from courtroom testimony to confronting officers for the month of June.

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Procedures on the topic were also recently revamped after the shooting death of Sean Bell, an unarmed man killed on his wedding night in a hail of 50 police bullets.

"We have seen fatal police-involved shootings plummet in recent decades _ even as the size of the NYPD increased _ because of training and disciplined use of force," said Paul Browne, the New York Police Department's deputy commissioner for public information.

"Department guidelines are neat and clean on paper, not so in the split-second reality of an armed confrontation. Our training is designed to help officers safely navigate through the hazards of the real thing."

According to statistics by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, about 22 officers have been killed in accidental shootings in the past decade. The figure includes officers caught in crossfire, mistaken for a suspect and firearm mishaps. It varies from year to year to between one and four officers killed around the country, and doesn't include those injured who survived. But, it's still staggeringly low given the tense and confusing circumstances officers regularly face. The nation's largest police department has about 34,000 officers.

"I think it goes back to context," Cohen said. "You have in law enforcement, which is perhaps different than military, a serious emphasis placed on not killing fellow officers. And that training is universal."

Still, it occurs, and when it does, the sticky issue goes deeper than issues of procedure. The FBI statistics don't specify the race of the officers killed, and many community members and leaders say race is clearly the reason for the accidents. Dunton and the other two officers were white; Edwards was black.

In 2008, a black, off-duty Mount Vernon police officer was killed by a Westchester County policeman while holding a gun on an assault suspect in suburban White Plains. In 2006, a New York City police officer, Eric Hernandez, was shot and killed by an on-duty patrolman who was responding to an attack at a White Castle in the Bronx.

In Providence, Sgt. Cornel Young Jr. was killed in 2000 while he was off duty and trying to break up a fight. He was dressed in baggy jeans, an overcoat and a baseball cap, and carrying a gun. His mother unsuccessfully sued the city. In 2005, an Orlando, Fla., police officer killed a man who had fired a gun outside the Citrus Bowl. The victim was a plainclothes officer working for the University of Central Florida. In 2001, two uniformed officers shot and killed an undercover detective when he trained his gun on a suspected car thief in Oakland, Calif.

On Saturday in Harlem, U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel joined the Rev. Al Sharpton in calling for a federal probe, while Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Kelly met with concerned community members around the city. Edwards' family mourned their son, who always wanted to be a police officer and had two small children and a wife.

"If you become an officer and you have a pistol and you are of color, in or out of uniform, your chances of getting shot down by a police officer are a lot heavier than if you were not of color," Rangel said.

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Associated Press Writer Verena Dobnik contributed to this report.

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- LouStool I'm a Fan of LouStool 2 fans permalink

Just wait until everyone has a gun. We will see civillians shooting at everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 05/31/2009
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 05/31/2009
- nadin I'm a Fan of nadin 4 fans permalink

I dont know if you know this but NYC has really strict laws that basically forbid ppl from protecting themselves. I mean you can barely buy pepper spray. So I feel like you logic doesn't make sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/31/2009
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I live in an area where almost everyone (even the kids) own guns. We don't have stuff like this happening. Shooting deaths are very rare.

I don't like guns, don't have any, think it's stupid to allow assault rifles to be sold, etc.--but reality is reality. Guns don't kill people any more than pencils misspell words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/31/2009

That's already happening in Oakland.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/31/2009
- twogunmojo I'm a Fan of twogunmojo 28 fans permalink

everyone has guns already...48 out of 50 states have some form of ccw or open carry...the truth is that not that many people are intentionally murdered using a gun of any kind...less than one person per state per day is murdered using a firearm...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 05/31/2009

Cops are not supposed to pull their guns out when chasing a car burglery suspect, and the guy was running away from him the threat was over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 05/31/2009
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 23 fans permalink

You are absolutely correct...why would Edwards have his gun drawn in this situation...It does not make sense at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 05/31/2009
- inorbit I'm a Fan of inorbit 26 fans permalink
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That's true. Do we know if the car thieves had guns? Either way - let them go. It's not worth it to lose your life over "stuff."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 05/31/2009
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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When you become a cop and regularly chase suspects who may possibly have guns, then you can come back and lecture us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 05/31/2009

he was not a private citizen, he was still a police officer, even if he was off duty.

one of the three cops killed in pittsburgh in april was ALREADY HOME when he heard the gunshots in our neighbourhood and went to lend assistance a few blocks away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 05/31/2009
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 92 fans permalink

1. Officer Edwards was shot IN THE BACK.
2. We only have the word of the killer(s) about the facts of what happened - until citizens who may have seen the entire series of events trust NYPD enough to speak up to investigators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/31/2009

What are we, as Brothers, to do?

It's wonderul that a Brother was able to get elected President, but in a country in which not even *Black cops* are immune from being victims of police brutality, you just have to shake your head and wonder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/31/2009
- Dubois651 I'm a Fan of Dubois651 8 fans permalink
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Brothers need to focus on organizing, self-study, and challenging racism wherever it rears its ugly head. The best battle is won, when we conquer ourselves. Stop looking for assistance from outside, because America only responds to demands after severe agitation

There is no secret that the law enforcement ranks are filled with bigots. The police force has always been filled with white supremacists, as they are the "overseers." As long as White america is willing to accept innocent Blacks being gunned down by cops it will continue.

White America does not accept the fact that racism is rampant in the police force. Many still hold on to the idea of officer friendly.

Ironically, if a Black or Latino or Asian cop gunned down a white cop or shot a teenager in the back, they would be suspended or possibly imprisoned. Until White America is forced to live in the shoes of minorities, they will never have empathy for minorities.

White Liberals, conservatives, moderates, I see little difference. I was born in 1981, and America I'm my youth, is still the America of my era. There is only a minority of White Americans who can emphathize with the plight of minorities. This group descends from the John Browns of the world.

The election of a mulatto-America has not changed the reality of America. In fact, the bailouts and current policies will possibly INCREASE the racial and class tension in the very near future.

We shall see...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 05/31/2009

Ah dude white people have been shot in the same situation. The police have no idea why they person being chased is being chased all they can see is that it looks like the person is running away from being shot. They have no idea who the person carrying the gun is. It's often a criminal that may be chasing after a victim in order to kill them at close range.

You point the gun at the police you will be shot. A cop or anyone with intellect would know to drop the gun right there so the police could not only question them but also get the runner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 05/31/2009

Not just Black cops; Hispanic cops are victims as well. Just spoke to a Hispanic highway patrol officer and was shocked by his story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 05/31/2009

I'd be interested in hearing the story, if you don't mind sharing it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 05/31/2009
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"What are we, as Brothers, to do?"
I'm certain your question has been asked since the days of the Middle Passage. Since that era, our history shows we have been able to solve many issues, only to have new challenges surfaces. We are aware of the data placing us AA males at risk today. HIV, education, incarceration data bear the damaging reality of AA males.
One issue AA must really look into is the lack of media ownership. We have no means to produce and more important distribute content.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/31/2009

Excellent point about media ownership, Brother. The Root and TV One are nice starts, but we need much more.

I won't even mention BET, for reasons that I'm sure you have already anticipated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 06/01/2009
- zanzig I'm a Fan of zanzig 40 fans permalink

"many community members and leaders say race is clearly the reason for the accidents. Dunton and the other two officers were white; Edwards was black."

Says it all really. A black man with a gun - has to be for nefarious reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 05/31/2009
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

zanzig - That was the first question I had when I saw the headline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/31/2009
- SamKnause I'm a Fan of SamKnause 76 fans permalink

I always wondered why the officers are not trained to shot someone in the foot, knee, or the hand that is carry a gun or weapon. Why do they always shoot to kill. I would think that officers would be trained as sharp shooters and able to put a bullet any where they aim. Every time some thing happens involving an officer all I ever hear is the adrenaline was pumping and they were caught up in the moment. I think that just sounds like an excuse that they don't operate well under pressure and excitement, and after all that is what they need to be trained in, because their jobs involve pressure and excitement as part of the norm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 05/31/2009

"I always wondered why the officers are not trained to shot someone in the foot, knee, or the hand that is carry a gun or weapon. Why do they always shoot to kill. I would think that officers would be trained as sharp shooters and able to put a bullet any where they aim."

What do you think, shooting a gun is like the movies? Shooting a gun accurately is extremely difficult and in any situation where you have made the decision to fire you are doing it because you feel the situation warrants it. And if you have made that decision, then you shoot at the center of your target because then you will actually hit it. Shooting someone on the knee or foot in a armed situation is damn near impossible and if you actually thought about it instead of basing your knowledge off of action movies you would understand how ignorant your comment is. Perhaps if the slain officer had dropped his weapon instead of swung toward the other officers with gun in hand shots would never have been fired. And who really chases a dude down with gun for breaking into a car? That sounds like the bad judgment call in this situation. Or...you can keep having your delusion where you think any one trained to shoot with a gun is annie oakley or Doc Holiday or some ish. Get a clue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 05/31/2009
- inorbit I'm a Fan of inorbit 26 fans permalink
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Also, if you shoot someone in the foot they can still rise up and shoot at you. It's happened many times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/31/2009
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Because the 9mm weapons police carry are much more inaccurate than larger caliber ones. It doesn't work like a laser pointer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 05/31/2009
- glockman I'm a Fan of glockman 43 fans permalink
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Let's see, shoot the guy in the foot who is shooting, or pointing a gun, at you. He falls down...and continues shooting at you.

Why do you think we don't teach officers to shoot at the hands and feet (besides the fact that it's extremely difficult)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 05/31/2009
- shockaslim I'm a Fan of shockaslim 5 fans permalink

Because cops are trained to shoot to kill. Neutralize the threat as quickly as possible (BOOM HEADSHOT) because they might kill you. That is why you don't reach behind your back to pull out your wallet when they say freeze. They don't know if you have a gun or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 05/31/2009

If you need a more glaring and criminal example of the "invisibility of the Black man", this is it! Shoot first and ask questions later.

I support a DOJ Federal investigation into the "pattern and practice" of the NYPD's killing of Black male citizens on the streets of New York.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 05/31/2009

I agree and while we are it let's add Oakland, California to the list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/31/2009
- dems08 I'm a Fan of dems08 194 fans permalink
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So the cop that was shot was chasing someone with his gun pulled, for breaking into his car.

That doesn't sound like a legitimate use of a weapon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 05/31/2009
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

So, let's make a list of legitimate uses for a weapon...ok? You go first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 05/31/2009

I know chasing dudes who just stole your car CD player is not on the list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 05/31/2009
- inorbit I'm a Fan of inorbit 26 fans permalink
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When your life is threatened or the life of someone in the vicinity is threatened. That's it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 05/31/2009
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Easy--equal force. Unarmed suspect? Don't need a gun. No living thing in immediate danger? Don't need a gun.

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 05/31/2009
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"The rules are pounded into these officers in training, and continued training, using their guns when other cops are around."

How much training do people with conceal/carry permits receive? Just asking....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 05/31/2009

About a hundredth of a percent as to what police officers are supposed to recieve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/31/2009

laughable amounts, purely laughable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 05/31/2009
- gifu I'm a Fan of gifu 14 fans permalink

Well, ever since 9/11...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 05/31/2009
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

you are trying to say something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 05/31/2009
- KodeBloo I'm a Fan of KodeBloo 37 fans permalink
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Rudy, is that you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/31/2009

interesting that "NYPD procedure for officer confrontation places the responsibility on the out-of-uniform officers. They are instructed to drop their weapon, stay still and to obey all directions from the uniformed officers to defuse the tense situation.". yet they do not. i would call that a breakdown in training. are both shooter and victim men of color? you have to recognize that edwards had his pistol drawn when he turned to address the uniforms. HE HAD A PISTOL IN HIS HAND and wasn't known at that time to be an officer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 05/31/2009

The shooter/killer was not in uniform! They were undercover in plain clothes, making the fact they were on duty mute.

The headlines say "off duty officer" shot but very few of them say "off duty officer shot by UNDERCOVER cops"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 06/01/2009
- broogha I'm a Fan of broogha 3 fans permalink
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None of us can deny that cops have a tough job. However, in this country they have a history of shooting, often killing, innocent persons. With no repercussions for such actions, in many jurisdictions, it has become more and more prevalent. Unfortunately, minorities are the largest group affected by their "shoot first, ask questions later" behavior and until the life of an African-American or Latino holds the same value as that of the white male or woman we will see very little prosecution of the guilty police officer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 05/31/2009

And police officers have a history of being shot and killed. Also the police have to weigh in the fact that if they don't take immediate action they and innocent civilians would be killed by a suspect.

Amazing how the police are blasted for not reacting and yet when they react fast they get blasted again.

Tell me why on Earth would you want to face police with a loaded gun when they tell you to stop. Tell me who in 99.9999 of cases would turn to face police with a loaded gun. Someone aiming to kill the cop is the answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 05/31/2009
- take10 I'm a Fan of take10 64 fans permalink
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Seems to me that the best and safe thing for off duty officers to do is let those still on the clock
handle the situation. The practice of being on duty 24/7 is dangerous, especially for Black officers in large cities. Trigger happy cops are a danger to all of us! My condolences to the family of the victim!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 05/31/2009
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 23 fans permalink

"Seems to me that the best and safe thing for off duty officers to do is let those still on the clock
handle the situation"...WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 05/31/2009

Was the officer that was killed black?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 05/31/2009
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yup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 05/31/2009
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 100 fans permalink
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Naturally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 05/31/2009
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 92 fans permalink

Yes. Shot in THE BACK...a detail being little reported by the newspapers we are no longer buying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/31/2009

Police are trained to fire at a person's center of gravity - ie. center of the torso. In tense situations hitting arms and legs is much more difficult and raises the chances bystanders will be hit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 05/31/2009

This sad case illustrates that even with extensive training and disciplined and accountable servicemen and women that innocent people will be killed in the heat of the moment where handguns are presented.
It gives even more cause for concern that a generally armed population, even with "Concealed Carry" permits will not bring about even more tragedies as armed people confronted with other armed people try to work out who they should point their guns at and who they should side with.
It is certainly not as easy as some would have us believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 05/31/2009
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