Omar Edwards Shot By Fellow Officer Andrew Dunton

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COLLEEN LONG | May 30, 2009 11:46 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — It's a police officer's nightmare scenario: Confronting someone who appears to be an armed suspect and opening fire, only to discover that person was actually an officer not in uniform.

It's the kind of mistake that haunts a department, opens it to scrutiny, and dominates headlines. While the phenomenon has happened around the country, New York is home to several cases in the past few years.

But friendly fire incidents with police are fairly rare, according to federal statistics, likely a testament to procedures in place in police departments around the country.

"There's an awareness by police departments that this is a very high risk," Jim Cohen, a professor of criminal law at Fordham Law School, said Saturday. "The rules are pounded into these officers in training, and continued training, using their guns when other cops are around."

Late Thursday, Officer Omar J. Edwards, 25, was shot by a fellow officer on a Harlem street while in street clothes. He had just finished his shift, and had his service weapon out, chasing a man who had broken into his car, police said. Three plainclothes officers on routine patrol arrived at the scene and yelled for the two to stop, police said. One officer, Andrew Dunton, opened fire and hit Edwards three times as he turned toward them with his service weapon. It wasn't until medical workers were on scene that it was determined he was a police officer.

Now, investigators are working to determine whether anyone was at fault. Witnesses are being re-interviewed and many questions remain, specifically whether Edwards identified himself as an officer, and whether Dunton's split-second judgment to fire was against department guidelines. The district attorney will likely convene a grand jury to decide whether to file charges against Dunton, as is practice for police-involved shootings. After, he will be interviewed by police. Dunton's attorney had no comment.

But NYPD procedure for officer confrontation places the responsibility on the out-of-uniform officers. They are instructed to drop their weapon, stay still and to obey all directions from the uniformed officers to defuse the tense situation.

In the police academy, officers get weeks of intense training on what they call confrontations with role playing, as well as lectures on the subject. Training continues on the subject when officers leave the academy. After the shooting Thursday, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly switched on-the-job training for officers from courtroom testimony to confronting officers for the month of June.

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Procedures on the topic were also recently revamped after the shooting death of Sean Bell, an unarmed man killed on his wedding night in a hail of 50 police bullets.

"We have seen fatal police-involved shootings plummet in recent decades _ even as the size of the NYPD increased _ because of training and disciplined use of force," said Paul Browne, the New York Police Department's deputy commissioner for public information.

"Department guidelines are neat and clean on paper, not so in the split-second reality of an armed confrontation. Our training is designed to help officers safely navigate through the hazards of the real thing."

According to statistics by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, about 22 officers have been killed in accidental shootings in the past decade. The figure includes officers caught in crossfire, mistaken for a suspect and firearm mishaps. It varies from year to year to between one and four officers killed around the country, and doesn't include those injured who survived. But, it's still staggeringly low given the tense and confusing circumstances officers regularly face. The nation's largest police department has about 34,000 officers.

"I think it goes back to context," Cohen said. "You have in law enforcement, which is perhaps different than military, a serious emphasis placed on not killing fellow officers. And that training is universal."

Still, it occurs, and when it does, the sticky issue goes deeper than issues of procedure. The FBI statistics don't specify the race of the officers killed, and many community members and leaders say race is clearly the reason for the accidents. Dunton and the other two officers were white; Edwards was black.

In 2008, a black, off-duty Mount Vernon police officer was killed by a Westchester County policeman while holding a gun on an assault suspect in suburban White Plains. In 2006, a New York City police officer, Eric Hernandez, was shot and killed by an on-duty patrolman who was responding to an attack at a White Castle in the Bronx.

In Providence, Sgt. Cornel Young Jr. was killed in 2000 while he was off duty and trying to break up a fight. He was dressed in baggy jeans, an overcoat and a baseball cap, and carrying a gun. His mother unsuccessfully sued the city. In 2005, an Orlando, Fla., police officer killed a man who had fired a gun outside the Citrus Bowl. The victim was a plainclothes officer working for the University of Central Florida. In 2001, two uniformed officers shot and killed an undercover detective when he trained his gun on a suspected car thief in Oakland, Calif.

On Saturday in Harlem, U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel joined the Rev. Al Sharpton in calling for a federal probe, while Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Kelly met with concerned community members around the city. Edwards' family mourned their son, who always wanted to be a police officer and had two small children and a wife.

"If you become an officer and you have a pistol and you are of color, in or out of uniform, your chances of getting shot down by a police officer are a lot heavier than if you were not of color," Rangel said.

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Associated Press Writer Verena Dobnik contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — It's a police officer's nightmare scenario: Confronting someone who appears to be an armed suspect and opening fire, only to discover that person was actually an officer not in unifor...
NEW YORK — It's a police officer's nightmare scenario: Confronting someone who appears to be an armed suspect and opening fire, only to discover that person was actually an officer not in unifor...
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Yeah this is a "nightmare" scenario but shooting an innocent civilian is just business as usual.

Wonderful country we live in...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 05/31/2009
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"If you become an officer and you have a pistol and you are of color, in or out of uniform, your chances of getting shot down by a police officer are a lot heavier than if you were not of color," Rangel said.
The last line in the article,but who here didn't know he was black by the first sentence. Not to many rich white women shot to death by police.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 05/31/2009
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Off duty officers are supposed to comply with the commands of uniformed personnel immediately, but it is very difficult to go against your cop instinct and drop your weapon, or comply with commands when you have been giving them for years.

This is not the first time this has happened, and it sadly will not be the last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 05/31/2009
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We do not know the truth about the uniformed cops saying "drop your weapon" or even if they actually gave ay commands..­.I can not see the victim keeping silent yet he knew what would pursue if he did not comply. It is also possible that the victim did not hear the uniform cops at all...REAL TRAGEDY FOR VICTIM'S FAMILY AND SHOOTER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 05/31/2009
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Personally, though the situation is tragic, I wish there was more of a focus on getting rid of corrupt cops. They are a bigger danger to citizens AND decent cops than cop-on-cop shootings ever could be. That having been said, my condolences to the officer's family and friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 05/31/2009
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Question? If these officers saw a WHITE MAN WITH A GUN CHASING A BLACK MAN, WOULD THEY HAVE TAKEN THE SAME ACTIONS?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 05/31/2009
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No one knows. And I think that is an unfair question. Too many variables to the senario. Essentially, an attempt to make white officers look racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/31/2009
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No. And, a second question - how many white cops are gunned down by AA/Hispanic officers in the same situation? Answer. NONE in NYC over the last 40 years.

Finally, an analysis of how many of the white officers who make these "mistakes" were born/raised/still reside in Long Island and/or the suburbs is in order. Not only do they not RESPECT urban/urbane culture(s) - but they are navigating our wonderful City as strangers. It shows when they can't tell the difference between a fellow officer (even under cover) -- if they happen to be AA or Hispanic.

One more thing, these shootings are typically IN THE BACK, as this one was - though NYC newspapers are not reporting it much (which is why we won't buy them any longer).

Ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/31/2009
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the breakdown in training comes in the second the off duty cop starts chasing someone for breaking into his auto waving his service gun around. he should act like a citizen. make a report if the cop is willing to take it or can be convinced to take it and never expect the crime to be solved, his stuff to be returned or the insurance company to pay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 AM on 05/31/2009

....hmmmmm­..........­.when the civilian is shot and killed, seems there is an air of "no big deal......­tragic accidents happen"...­.....yet when they eat their own, it's a break-down of training..­........le­t's see how much of a white-wash this gets......­..........­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 05/31/2009

Describing something as "no big deal" yet "tragic" seems inconsistent. Could you provide clarification please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 AM on 05/31/2009
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That's because the civilian is usually shooting at us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 05/31/2009
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I actually watched an episode of "Cops" (bad boys, bad boys, what a weird theme song) last night, and the one thing that struck me about that odd show is the 'them/us' attitude most police in this country carry in their minds.
Them/us.
It's creepy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 05/31/2009
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My thoughts exactly...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 05/31/2009

BS, but nice try. Even if its a clear cut case of a good shoot there is a lot of hand wringing and investigation. What DOESN'T happen is the media doesn't get involved because its not sensational. What you are actually seeing is NYPD responding the way they normally do to a shooting. It's the press that you notice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 05/31/2009

This happened in The Wire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 05/31/2009
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The Wire is based on factual occurrences! So, it's in The Wire because it happened on the streets of Baltimore!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 05/31/2009
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This happened in NYC earlier, long before the Wire was ever produced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/31/2009
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I should have said that a similar incident happened in NYC before the Wire was on the air. It was during the Guiliani administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 05/31/2009
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Thanks for that info. WTF??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 05/31/2009

This happens all the time. Subconscious racial stereotyping. Crime is black. So despite police training, racial stereotype prevails in the heat of the moment and a white officer sees a black man with a gun and automatically sees him as the potential suspect.

The next question is, "how often do white police shoot an off duty white policeman who is holding a gun?" Hardly at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 05/31/2009
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How awful. There has got to be a better way to protect these off-duty officers from this kind of senseless risk.

In the heat of the moment anything can happen, but this seems like the absolute worse-case scenario.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 05/31/2009
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Sure there is a way to stop violence against anyone. It is called saying "stop," and saying "police," and asking what is going on.

It is not jumping out of a car and shooting anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 05/31/2009

Changing their color is about the only way that will happen. Not always, but too frequently the officer who is shot is a person of color. Who knows what stereotypes are playing out in the shooters' heads?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 05/31/2009

hmmmmm....­..this is a hard one.......­.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/31/2009
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I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 05/31/2009
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"In the police academy, officers get weeks of intense training on what they call confrontations with role playing."

What training do civilians receive?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 05/31/2009
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"What training do civilians receive?"

If you want training go out and seek it. Civilians aren't paid to be first responders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 05/31/2009
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Uhhh... common sense? History? It doesn't always help, but other experiences have taught us that if an officer yells "halt" -- "stop" -- "freeze" -- and you don't, there's probably a very good chance that something bad will happen. Unfortunately, things like what happened in California with the young man who was clearly not acting aggressively being shot while he was down on the ground tend to color the idea that if one does what one should, they'll be [sic] safe... Still weight that against the prospect of running and forcing the officers to give chase or turning towards them with a loaded weapon in your hand. Having said all of this, nothing negates that fact that too often young men of color are being shot and killed by police officers for various reasons and when something like this happens, we can hope that the reality of the situation hits home somewhere.­.. somehow. Of course, I wouldn't hold my breath or bet my last dollar on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 05/31/2009
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I am no fan of law enforcement. Living here in GA the level of superiority officers feel to the citizens is mind boggling. Everyone with sense should know that if you are told to STOP, DROP YOUR WEAPON you had best comply or risk injury or death.

If he fired without saying those things or if they were said and the off-duty officer decided not to comply, then what happened was the result of ignorance, stupidity and/or arrogance.

It's a tragedy but an inherent risk when you are talking about the ego of a police officer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 05/31/2009

the only training civilians need.do not carry a gun.and your chance of getting shot drops

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 05/31/2009

its not clear from the story of the officer died or not? Did he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 05/31/2009
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Unfortunately, yes. He was a young newlywed with a toddler-aged son and an infant son.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 05/31/2009
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How tragic and disturbing. So sorry for his wife and two babies. I can't even begin to imagine what she's goiong through right now.
Thanks for the information.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 05/31/2009
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He died. The headline and the story could have been written better to reflect that.

"NEW YORK (AP) — A plainclothes policeman who drew his gun while chasing someone he had found rummaging through his car was shot and killed by a fellow officer who was driving by and saw the pursuit, the police commissioner said."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hukB39v7Mf3fg4YCE7bpzlgRNUKwD98G2FU80

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 05/31/2009
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He's dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 05/31/2009
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Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 05/31/2009
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Yes he did die. R.I.P.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 05/31/2009
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Brilliant, just wait you'll still get your promotion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 05/31/2009
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This is the worst case scenario and dream for an officer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/31/2009

Could this be down to the 'shoot first and ask questions later...' culture of copdom?

Jes askin'....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 05/31/2009
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That's precisely it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 05/31/2009
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Nothing like jumping to conclusions, is there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 05/31/2009
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it's a pattern of bad behavior..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 05/31/2009
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At least when we do it here... NO ONE DIES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 05/31/2009
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Head in the sand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 05/31/2009
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I love how they never shoot anyone in the leg or the arm to halt them. Always deadly force, with a torso shot! Will you reconsider this stupid policy now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 05/31/2009

I really don't want to come down on you too hard, but I have to wonder if you've ever shot a firearm before. If I'm wrong and you still think it's feasible to require officers to have to aim for limbs before...w­ell, you're entitled to that opinion, I guess.

I honestly don't see how anyone who has fired a gun before can think it's sane to require aiming for the arms or legs. You'd probably end up putting more bystanders at risk, along with undoubtedly increasing the risk to police officers. If the brass ever decides on a policy along those lines, they might as well take the firearms from us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 AM on 05/31/2009
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Typical uneducated TV fed response. It is obvious you have no knowledge of firearms. As a police officer of ten years, a firearms instructor, and a police SWAT sniper, I can tell you it is extremely difficult to shoot an arm or leg on a moving target. Officers are trained to shoot center mass because it provides a large target, and the area houses all the vital organs.

If someone has a weapon, and you just shoot them in the arm or leg, they can simply keep shooting at you from the ground, get it?

And no, we will never reconsider this "stupid policy" because we are smarter than you concerning issues of policing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 05/31/2009
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Ive always wondered the same thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 05/31/2009
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Please, if you know of some trainng method where each and every police officer will be able to hit someone in the leg, then by all means step forward. If not listen to logic; as bad as it sounds, the reason you aim for the torso is because it is the largest body target making it more likely that your round will hit its mark. If you try to shoot for the leg and the round misses, it will most likely continue traveling until it has hit something else, such as an innocent bystander. Stop watching so much TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 05/31/2009

That doesn't halt someone at all. Especially not if they are in an adreline rush or under the influence of drugs or mental illness. Most people who are shot in a shootout don't even know they got shot till after the shootout. It's not only that fast but you often don't feel wounds to the arms or legs.

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