Baucus Battered By Voters For Health Care Stand

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Posted: 06- 1-09 02:36 PM

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Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong.

Baucus, the chair of the Finance Committee and the leader of reform efforts in the Senate, scheduled 20 town hall meetings with constituents across the state to talk about the future of health care. The Senate was out of session, but Baucus, a Democrat, didn't personally attend. Instead, he sent staff and a video-recorded message.

"I really want to hear from all of you," Baucus said on the video, according to local media. "You're my employers. You're my bosses. You're the people I work for. I'm just the hired hand. I want to hear what you want to see in any legislation we pass in Washington, D.C."

He got what he asked for.

Five separate accounts of the meetings, published in four different local papers, show Montana voters were downright hostile to Baucus' reform proposal. Baucus has been a staunch opponent of single-payer health care, a system in which the government would provide universal coverage.

Baucus has kept single-payer advocates out of negotiations and has yet to endorse a compromise proposal by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) that would give Americans the option of buying into a publicly run plan that would compete with private insurers.

That stance put his staffers up against a wall, facing angry constituents fed up by what they viewed as a lack of courage in Washington.

"Majority wants single-payer health care," headlined an account in the Helena Independent Record.

At several of the events, Montanans' ire was directed at Baucus chief of staff Jon Selib, who defended the employer-based coverage system that he estimated covers 150 million Americans.
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"A lot of people like that," Selib said.

When the time came for questions, [self-employed consultant Steve] McArthur stood up and asked a simple question. Looking across a standing-room-only crowd of about 275, he asked how many were happy with their employer-based health insurance.

Fewer than 10 people raised their hands.

"The [argument] is bogus," McArthur said. "It's not working for 95 percent of us."

In fact, any mention of single-payer health care insurance brought raucous cheers and clapping. Any other solution to health care reform - including Baucus' "balanced" plan that would create a mix of public and private plans - was received more coolly.


The bitter questioning led Selib to break some news at the meeting.

"If you think your insurance company is screwing you ... then you'd have the option of going to the public plan," Selib said. "Senator Baucus is fighting tooth and nail to include that in any final deal."

Then he asked the standing-room-only audiences for comments -- and got an earful, mostly on the whys, hows and whats of national health insurance as the preferred option.



Baucus' staff repeatedly argued that 60 votes are needed to move a bill through the Senate and that single-payer, or an otherwise bold reform, simply wouldn't pass. That wasn't what they wanted to hear, said a story in the Missoulian, "Single-payer health care: Baucus keeps getting an earful."

PABLO - Sen. Max Baucus' insistence that consideration of a national single-payer health plan at this point will squander a golden opportunity for health care reform in the United States continues to be met with stiff resistance from many of his constituents.

"The word 'insurance' does not equal health care," Janelle Kuechle of Polson said at a meeting here Thursday. "If I have to pay a $900 premium to have health insurance with a $10,000 deductible, that is not health care."

"Congress ought to be representing us instead of the insurance lobby," said retired school teacher John Oberlitner of Polson. "Max Baucus has stated it's not feasible to pass a single-payer health plan, but one year ago people were saying it was not feasible that Obama could be elected our president."

Voters in Livingston weren't much warmer, recorded the Bozeman Daily Chronicle.

But many in the audience grilled a Baucus staffer on why they wouldn't allow single-payer advocates to participate in roundtables held to form his plan. Several doctors were arrested for protesting that point in Washington two weeks ago during a Baucus-led discussion.

Judy Moor of Bozeman asked whether the big campaign dollars Baucus has received from the insurance industry was reason for suspicion.

"Single-payer advocates not giving up the fight," observed the Great Falls Tribune.

Proponents of single-payer showed up en masse at the most well-attended meetings in Missoula, Hamilton, Anaconda, Dillon and Livingston to urge Baucus -- the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee -- to consider single-payer universal health care. Single payer -- a system in which the government provides health insurance to all Americans -- has been declared "off the table" by Baucus, Congress' leading man on heath care reform.

Baucus isn't pushing hard enough, said a Helena business owner, summing up the statewide wisdom. "Max is really making me mad now because he's not really trying to change the system, he's just trying to tweak it."

Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong. Baucus, the chair of the Finance Commi...
Sen. Max Baucus got some not-so friendly advice from his Montana constituents last week as he works to reform the health care system: You're doing it all wrong. Baucus, the chair of the Finance Commi...
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- Lochmon I'm a Fan of Lochmon 96 fans permalink
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Now THAT's how you do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 06/02/2009
- jaglon I'm a Fan of jaglon 4 fans permalink

Thank you Montana for standing up to your senator! What a chicken s**t, sending aides instead of coming himself. But will he listen to his constituents or will continue to represent the interests of the insurance companies who are lining his pockets with money? If that is the case throw him out when runs again.

Insurance companies are figuring out that they can raise premiums and deductables at the same time. If they keep doing this we will paying them hundreds a month and getting nothing in return except a unhealthy country. I am not satisfied with my health insurance and I do not think that most Americans are. I think that any taxes raised to pay for single payer will be far lower then any insurance premium and that, folks, is what the health insurance companies are afraid of. And all that blather about the government deciding your health care is bogus, the insurance companies already do that with their convoluted rules designed to trip people up so that they can out of paying claims and their network hospitals and doctors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 06/02/2009
- Oldchef I'm a Fan of Oldchef 2 fans permalink

I have e-mailed and called my senators about including the single payer plan; even sent Carper a nasty gram about it, but, when these suckers are taking millions from insurance companies, they are not concerned about their constituents. I keep reminding these guys that corporations can't vote, but I still get fobbed off with the same crap propaganda. Health Insurance is not Health Care. The insurance companies are in it for the money. They will always protect their profits. Health Care should be non-profit and the only way we'll see that is a government run option similar to the VA or Medicare. Remember how your elected representatives vote on this. If they ignore the will of the people like Baucus and the so-called blue dogs, throw the dogs out and let's elect some people that will actually represent the will of their constituents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 06/02/2009

WHAT WOULD JESUS THINK ??? I wonder how the Christian Right thinks Jesus feels about their money making friends at the insurance companies?? Do you think that Jesus would approve of greedy people making a (large) profit off the pains of sick people?? Why is there a need to make money off sick people?? I can understand that people need to make wages, but this is just greed. GREED is the worst sin !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/02/2009

I so agree with you. Insurance companies deny coverage to make huge profits and making money on people's illness is immoral. We underinsured are all just an illness away from bankruptcy. It's a fear no senator ever feels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 06/02/2009
- whoknew42 I'm a Fan of whoknew42 20 fans permalink
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It's called - VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE!!

He's obviously trying to secure an executive position with some insurance company after his term is up - I say let him go now!!

I hope he's enjoying his time in there now, cause I don't think he'll be back for another term!! Let's hope not anyway!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 06/02/2009
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This chicken puzzie sends his staff???? HAHAHAHA I guess by doing just that shows who he works for..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 06/02/2009

I believe Max Baucus may be the single greatest threat in the Senate to Universal Healthcare. I created a facebook group to stand up to him and raise awareness about his refusal to consider a public-insurance option.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=85533933245&ref=mf

I volunteered for this man in college and now he's an embarrassment to all of us who supported him in Montana.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 06/02/2009
- JoAnnCr I'm a Fan of JoAnnCr 16 fans permalink
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Thank you, Montana, for doing what the rest of us haven't been able to do: Stick it to one of the most powerful men on the planet regarding our health care. Never give up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 06/02/2009
- blackmouth I'm a Fan of blackmouth 16 fans permalink
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Single payer health insurance is the only way to go, if your sick you go to any doctor you want and the doctor charges the government for the services from the taxes that we paid for this service. Everybody is insured and nobody has to pay anything for seeing a doctor. This is what we want damn it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 06/02/2009
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How would he like to be out of a job and unable to access health care on the very same day?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 06/02/2009
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 103 fans permalink
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What a chicken! He didn't even attend the meetings? Says a lot MAX! I am so grateful and proud of the citizens that took it to him (or his staff). That's exactly what we all need to do every single chance we get. The 60 vote crutch is b.s. too, President Obama has hinted that he would be open to using a reconciliation vote on healthcare in order to get it. If a few Senators are going to keep working on behalf of the insurance & drug companies...then go around them. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 06/02/2009
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

SINGLE PAYER ON THE TABLE NOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 06/02/2009
- FogBelter I'm a Fan of FogBelter 293 fans permalink
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Universal Single Payer Health Care is the only responsible, ethical and, most importantly, workable way to to meet the health care needs of the people of the United States. Anything else is simply another corporate giveaway at the American People's expense.

If Senator Baucus hasn't learned that in the Montana Townhalls, he will learn it at the ballot box. If Senator Baucus intends on pushing for Corporate Wealth Care ahead of American Health Care he better make sure his patrons in the Health Care Lobby build him a nice post Senatorial nest egg to enjoy during his retirement.

The people of Montana aren't the fools Senator Baucus had hoped they were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 06/02/2009
- westreal I'm a Fan of westreal 20 fans permalink

I WANT SINGLE PAYER

NOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/02/2009
- CitizenT I'm a Fan of CitizenT 2 fans permalink

Ol' Max is tryin', gosh darned it. It's just all those evil congressmen holding his utopian vision of free healthcar for everyone back. Just vote him in one more time so he can keep up the fight (just hard enough to make headlines, but not enough to actually get it through and piss off his corporate sponsors!).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 06/02/2009
- BlueDog1 I'm a Fan of BlueDog1 10 fans permalink

I am sick and tired of listening to and supporting the Blue Cross association of insurance companies. They have never provided me a band aid nor asprin to me. We don't need insurance companies and my gov. better stop being a front for them, either stand up for the people or we will fire the whole damn bucnh of you........................get "K" street out of your pockets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 06/02/2009
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