Kristof Asks Readers: Should US Legalize Drugs?

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First Posted: 06- 1-09 05:03 PM   |   Updated: 06- 1-09 06:10 PM

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Nicholas Kristof wants to know: Should the U.S. legalize drugs?

The influential New York Times columnist posted the question, which is being asked in mainstream circles with increasing frequency, on his Facebook page Saturday evening. Opinions have come pouring in.

"I'm thinking of writing this coming week about whether legalization of drugs makes sense. Any thoughts out there or good resources?" he asked.

Kristof told the Huffington Post he likes to reach out to readers for help when he's entering into not-entirely-familiar territory.

"It certainly prompted a lot of interesting thoughts, a lot of references to organizations involved, and one organization also reached out by phone to me. Maybe I would have come across the same organization, or maybe not, but on a topic that I don't know so well it can be a really useful tool," he said. "I find that on some issues it's completely useless, but on topics that especially involve experiences that I don't have, or knowledge that I don't have, then reaching out actually works pretty well."

One topic that doesn't work well with crowd-sourcing, Kristof said is the Middle East. "You get half the people with extreme views on the one side and half the people with extreme views on the other, and it's all heat and no light. And it's all arguments that I've already heard before," he said.

Tom Angell, a flak for the group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, left Kristof a message after a friend at Students for Sensible Drug Policy alerted him to the query.

"Facebook and other social networking sites like Digg and Twitter have proven to be an essential tool for those of us working to drive the discussion on drug legalization from the political fringes to the upper echelons of the mainstream media in recent months," he told the Huffington Post in a g-chat.

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Angell, if he connects with Kristof, will encounter a receptive audience.

"It's been a gradual process," said Kristof about his thinking leading to the decision to confront the issue. "I think that the economy being a particular mess makes me a little more skeptical about spending vast amounts of money incarcerating people on drugs, and then I think the degree to which Mexico has been erupting also has made me wonder."

Kristof has traveled widely for his reporting and filed stories from a number of war zones. "The Taliban financing itself in part with opium has made me also wonder about the foreign-policy implications of our drug policies. But it's been something I've kind of wondered about and been ambivalent about for a number of years," said Kristof.

Facebookers who responded to Kristof took his question seriously and largely gave nuanced answers, leaning overwhelmingly in favor of a liberalized policy. His Facebook buds suggested he seek out drug-policy experts Mark Kleiman and Lester Grinspoon, along with Glenn Greenwald, who has recently written about Portugal's experience with decriminalization.

"If you do legalize marijuana, simultaneously implement strict, VERY strict drunk and high driving laws as well as gun laws to try to tame the negative externalities of marijuana use. I believe that the only possible drug to legalize would be marijuana, but I'm skeptical that our culture could handle it. Iowa sure as heck isn't Amsterdam," offered Jacqueline Nalbert Brysacz.

Though many of the posters were personally in favor of reforming drug policy, there was skepticism that the nation could handle legalization, much as Brysacz said.

"I favor legalization/decriminalization in theory, but I wonder how a policy shift of such magnitude would play out in the real world, or if it's even possible," wrote Stephen Wittek. "A lot of deeply entrenched interests, opinions, attitudes and beliefs would have to uprooted or steamrolled, and a lot of people would scream bloody apocalypse. Regardless of whether or not it 'makes sense,' the question at the heart of issue is 'Does America have the stomach for legalization?' And I'm pretty sure the answer is 'no.'"

Kristof will be following in the wake of Time's Joe Klein, CNN's Jack Cafferty, MSNBC's Pat Buchanan, as well as California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, top House Democrat Barney Frank, former Mexican President Vicente Fox and current Mexican Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan, all of whom have called for a rational discussion about drug policy that includes legalization.

Look for his column in the next few weeks. And look for something that moves the conversation forward.

"Increasingly, I'm thinking that legalization arguments are stronger and stronger," said Kristof.

Ryan Grim is the author of This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America, due out later this month

Nicholas Kristof wants to know: Should the U.S. legalize drugs? The influential New York Times columnist posted the question, which is being asked in mainstream circles with increasing frequency, on...
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Before you begin asking "Should we legalize drugs?" we have to define drugs. Clearly, drugs such as heroin, cocaine, ecstacy, etc. should remain illegal. Marijuana, on the other hand, is something else.

Moreover, one has to look at WHY it was ever made illegal in the first place. Essentially, the government was concerned about the influence of counter-culture types (who were mostly African American), so they banned weed.

If you were to regulate it like tobacco or liquor, tax it like tobacco and liquor, and allowed cities and counties to continue to prohibit it's usage (much like "dry" counties do with alcohol), I think you'd find that there would be quite a bit of places that would probably run with the idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/01/2009
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Basically the Cartels and Drugs get a game change- just like Al Capone and prohibition-
The USA has a chance to profit since the US drug problem is for life-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/01/2009
- 9liberal I'm a Fan of 9liberal 32 fans permalink
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yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/01/2009
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on the one hand it makes TOTAL sense to decriminalize pot and allow people to have it, i mean if the drug of alcohol is legal, on the other hand -- and I don't mean to offend-- it's really quite depressing the existence of regular pot users, especially those in there mid 30s up. probably as depressing as regular drinkers..­. it does nothing to invite people to live AWAKE. please don't hit me back with hate... just my opinion. as i have gotten older and sought out deeper more meaningful connections, I dont hang around many users of anything..­. I know we are all addicts of one kind or another (including work, thinking, blogging), but... try to have an intimate relationship with someone who is always checking out with their drug of choice.... and people who get high or drunk in that case are doing that same thing. but... maybe they should be free to self-destr­uct..... now I need to get off-line as I face my internet addiction!

peace and love to all, hts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 06/01/2009
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your cool. yes, it is a problem for some people, wether legal or not. some people are happy being teetotlers however. i only disagree with our use of "maybe". I am free to self distruct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 06/01/2009
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yes teetolters, same with me when i have a glass of wine, for sure. and the "maybe" --blogs are challenging. they are not complete thoughts..­. i write in part for a living and it's been hard just being casual with words on blogs... i have to let go of perfect thoughts..­. if there ever are any.... Maybe maybe... or maybe not... thanks... hava nice night-- hts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 06/01/2009
- verhaftik1 I'm a Fan of verhaftik1 3 fans permalink

Yes. Absolutely.

Regulate, distribute, tax = best drug management policy.

Note, opiates will need more than most as addiction (tolerance) will undermine its efficacy in surgery and cancer treatment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 06/01/2009
- roger37 I'm a Fan of roger37 21 fans permalink

If you legalize drugs, you take the profit margin out of them, and nobody will be interested in distributing them! Not only that, the "hip" aspect of doing something outside the law will be diminished, and usage will slow down.

Yes, you'll still have some junkies, just like you have alcoholics now, but at least you'll know where they are, and they'll stay out of trouble. Crime and incarceration rates will plummet. Some of those money savings can go towards extensive treatment and prevention programs.

Never happen, because it's such an emotional issue, but since when did logical decision-making ever hold primacy in politics? There are many sound reasons to legalize drugs, and only some emotional reasons not to legalize them, but the emotional, demagogue points will win the debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/01/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

Yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/01/2009
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

No. Drugs are for junior high school kids and idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 06/01/2009
- unkn1 I'm a Fan of unkn1 4 fans permalink

Legalize pot - absolutely. Regulate it? OK, if sold at the corner store or liquor stores in prepackaged form, BUT LET ME GROW MY OWN !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/01/2009
- unkn1 I'm a Fan of unkn1 4 fans permalink

ok, forgot I was a grownup for a minute - 21 years of age required.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 06/01/2009

Well they can't stop me from growing my own now, so I doubt they would try after they make it legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 06/01/2009
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I'm actually going out right now to buy a legal poinsettia to shmoke. Doesn't taste as good as herb, but the death that ensues is oh so liberating­....

[end sarcasm]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 06/01/2009
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you are frightening me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 06/01/2009
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i've said it before but it needs repeating here. "smoking" is bad for your health. duh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 06/01/2009
- todd432 I'm a Fan of todd432 3 fans permalink

Heck ya were ready for Legal weed, Duh. The people are sick and tired of hearing the same old prohibition arguments on marijuana. I truly believe we now have the majority of voters, but the problem is we have to wait another year until we can vote these Nay-Sayer politicians out. Then they will know how ready we are. Times have changed and the newer generations have drastically different views on a lot of topics. It sickens me something fierce that a person can drink alcohol but can't smoke weed. Let the minority cry and whine when the laws change, at least they cant be arrested when they change law but pot smokers can be arrested now for their laws and opinions. Continuing to arrest and jail people any longer for laws no longer supported by the majority is a terrible crime against democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 06/01/2009

of course!
it's been illegal and I have had access to it everyday for over 40 years...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 06/01/2009
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Right you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 06/01/2009
- CorkiDeCat I'm a Fan of CorkiDeCat 7 fans permalink
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Yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 06/01/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 72 fans permalink

For your enlightenment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo9FYneyS2w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLzmH9VB6A&feature=PlayList&p=1B7FAB6F7B568E59&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 06/01/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 72 fans permalink

Another raygun initiative that was utterly wrong and so devastating to society. The man was a complete and utter failure on so many levels that it took GW to rival him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 06/01/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 72 fans permalink

This is the full version of The Union.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1657827965975839596

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 06/01/2009
- frug I'm a Fan of frug 14 fans permalink
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The Clinton administration ramped up the "war on drugs" with unprecedented zeal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 06/01/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 72 fans permalink

You mean the republican controlled congress don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 06/01/2009
- frug I'm a Fan of frug 14 fans permalink
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Outlawing a plant! How preposterous is that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 06/01/2009
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