Obama, Senate Dems Consider Public Health Care Option With A Trigger

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First Posted: 06- 2-09 01:50 PM   |   Updated: 06- 2-09 02:41 PM

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The Obama administration and Senate Democrats are debating a health care reform outline that will insist upon a public option for insurance but leave open the possibility for it to be kicked in via triggers.

Multiple Democratic sources tell the Huffington Post that the White House and key members of the Finance and Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committees are in the process of hammering out key principles on health care reform -- with a meeting scheduled at the West Wing this afternoon. One of the components will be music to progressive ears: that any bill includes an option publicly run health insurance coverage. But it also comes with a caveat that could engender opposition from that very same constituency.

A trigger would pave the way for public option to come into place only after certain market conditions are met -- mainly if private insurance companies are unable to achieve various metrics for coverage within a certain time frame. The proposal would placate many of the private health care actors who consider a public plan the first step towards a single-payer system. Progressives, however, view it as reform in name and not substance.

"This is really, obviously, a mechanism to kill the public plan," said one progressive health care reform advocate. "We will see what comes out, but the fact that they are debating this is problematic."

An official at the White House said he could not immediately confirm the report.

The proposal for a public plan with triggers has been welcomed among some moderate Democrats who want to forge a compromise on what is shaping up as the major fault line on health care reform. Sen. Max Baucus, one of the major players in the debate, has offered his support for this approach. As have Senators Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Thomas Carper (D-Del.).

That said, opposition to the proposal is fierce.

"I would have very strong reservations about [a trigger], but I think we have to keep talking," said Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), a powerful subcommittee chairwoman on the health committee.

Senator Chuck Schumer has insisted that, if anything, "reasonable criteria for triggering a public plan has already been met."

"Premiums are high," the New York Democrat said, "and either one or two insurers dominate the market. As we've seen with Medicare part D, a trigger option has so far meant no public option at all."

Indeed, as Schumer notes, there is a trigger in the Medicare part D program and, to this date, the conditions have never been met for a public option for prescription drug coverage. The standards were set by private market, all but ensuring that they would remain unreachable. Progressive officials working on health care reform worry that should the same system be put in place for insurance coverage, the same result will occur and public health care will never come to pass.

With additional reporting by Ryan Grim.

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- LHoney I'm a Fan of LHoney 43 fans permalink
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Why are we reinventing the wheel? The rest of the civilized world already has universal health care. Why don't we study what they are all doing and choose the best option(s)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/03/2009
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Arriving a bit late to the party, are we?

I mean really, are you just now seriously asking this question?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 06/03/2009
- BethA I'm a Fan of BethA 65 fans permalink
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That question has been asked all along....and ignored.
It's a good question....other countries do health care way better than we do.
It's stupid to NOT look at Europe's various flavors of universal health care and LEARN from what's already been done.
Ridiculing a perfectly good question is exactly what has helped the insurance companies hold Americans hostage with complete lack of health CARE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 06/03/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 365 fans permalink
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Obama needs our help to get real health care reform passed. Please write your Senator and tell him to support the President's plan of a public option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 06/03/2009

Exactly! Don't forget the PEOPLE POWER! Why do they still clinging to the private insurers who must add unnecessary profits and adminstrative costs for managing different schemes to the health costs? Single- payer is the ONLY option for the health care reform: just choose the best system that other first wolrd countires already did. Don't need to reinvent the wheel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 06/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 184 fans permalink

I don't support the "president's plan" which is just more of the same. It amounts to another subsidy for the private health care industry instead of the single payer health insurance this country desperately needs.

Obama needs our "help" by threatening him with no second term and a 4 year fight over this if he doesn't get the job done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 06/03/2009
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The mother of all begged questions, I'd say.

Maybe Obama is trying to elicit this kind of question.
I have issues with the decision to not have any single payor advocates on Baucus's committee.
I hope this pulls people a little further out of their stupors.

Anyone else notice that the reality TV world seems extra CF'y these days? Opium-for-the-masses production is in high gear right at the time when we are debating everything-that-matters. ;-)

Great post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 06/03/2009
- PINO I'm a Fan of PINO 18 fans permalink
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Reinventing the wheel is not the problem. The rest of the civilized world, Europe and Canada do have universal health care. And their systems suck. There are no best options for this fantasy.

The more control you allow the government to levy in your personal life the less freedom you will have when it comes to picking doctors. Why would any intelligent person want to have the government run the health care system when they currently cannot run other programs(social security, medicare) or GSEs.

Beside, the estimated 46 million people who aren't covered either DO NOT want health care or are here illegally. So why should I and many other Americans pay for this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 06/03/2009
- Pigeon2 I'm a Fan of Pigeon2 3 fans permalink

You are right on...I have been employed in the HealthCare industry for 25 yrs.. A woman comes in with a lump in her breast...She has a mammogram, Ultrasound, Maybe an MRI, Biopsy...If it is positive for breast cancer she has surgery...Maybe a few rounds of Chemo...Prognosis..Excellent...Now lets look at Universal HC....Find a Lump...Get in line for a mammo, etc...By the TIME your TURN comes around for the above procedures..You are a Stage 4 Breast Cancer with Mets to the Liver, Brain & probably bone...You are sent HOME to make funeral arrangements.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 06/03/2009

Pull the trigger NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/03/2009
- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 139 fans permalink
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While I too don't like this idea, all of the Obama ranting is short-sided: Congress is way more of a problem, IMHO. I feel like Obama is trying to figure out a way to get something through our foul pinheaded congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 06/03/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 73 fans permalink

But we are at fault, we keep voting for these deadbeats over and over again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 06/03/2009

Repeat after me.............Single Payer or you're fired!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 06/03/2009
- lily I'm a Fan of lily 2 fans permalink

As usual, Obama finds a way to screw the middle class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 06/03/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 365 fans permalink
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Is there a middle class in this country? The U.S. has a Gini index on par with Brazil and Mexico. In 2005, the median income in the U.S. was $32,000 and 8 out of ten Americans earned $55,000 or less.

This is the crowning achievement of thirty years of conservative economic policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 06/03/2009
- jwredd I'm a Fan of jwredd 53 fans permalink

Obama hasn't even had time to "screw the middle class" yet. We're still trying to get unscrewed from the last guy. Maybe you should wait a year or two for that comment and see if it applies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 06/03/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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You have to take this headline down. It's raising my blood pressure while lowering my spirits. I'm having to come to grips that Obama is turning his back on the American people and sucking up to the Health Insurance industry. I have to take note that he's even turned his back on his own mother by considering allowing this disaster of a privatized health care system to continue on for another day. It's sad but once in Washington I guess you just forget the millions of people who got you there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 06/03/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 18 fans permalink
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Write, Call, Make Your Voice Heard. Now.

It has a big impact. And, don't just contact *your* state's senator. Email the ones who count, like Baucus & Grassley & Kennedy & etc., etc., --all of them need to hear from We The People.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Do It.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 06/03/2009
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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Thank You. I used this site and saved it to my favorites. I sent my letters!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 06/03/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 365 fans permalink
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Thank you Jane. People can also write the White House. Help the President. Fight for real health care reform.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 06/03/2009
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Jane, thank you! That site is an absolute TREASURE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 06/03/2009
- RandVictims I'm a Fan of RandVictims 113 fans permalink
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I voted for Obama though I have to be honest, - I'm already getting tired of the "flip-flops" and the Clintonesk "it's not that easy" excuses.

In my job, - NO excuses, no compromise. Either I make their (sometimes unrealistic) demands come true or I'm fired. Bosses in the business world are demanding and require immediate results. Dubya made corporate dreams come true instantaneously and without compromise but Obama seems to flop or "triangulate" on every issue we elected him to enforce change.

Maybe we should put an abused, check-to-check working class person in office to work for the People.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 06/03/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 73 fans permalink

I agree, but have you seen who they will parade for the next election. Are we stupid yet?
Mitt already had lost one time. Who needs him whose state is in dire straits and he certainly did not help to prevent any of it. Of course, he resurrected his companies but he also pockets the
profits. And Palin, OMG, what a dud who can't even run Alaska. Then the preacher, he is going backwards, and old big mouth. I can't believe we cannot find a REAL PERSON that represents the people. Any DEMS interested? Kucinich, please try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 06/03/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 184 fans permalink

Agreed. President Obama is about to be added to my list of "democrats I'll never vote for no matter what". Just like the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 06/03/2009
- rxvette I'm a Fan of rxvette 34 fans permalink

The U.S. Healthcare system as is needs to change otherwise it will continue to fail patients like this:

http://rxvette.blogspot.com/2009/05/healthcare-reform-touches-home.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 06/03/2009
- viflyer I'm a Fan of viflyer 28 fans permalink

This is such crap. These people just cannot give up their addiction to insurance company MONEY. Even OBAMA. Have you ever seen such squirming and posturing to try to appease and fool the PEOPLE while continuing to hold on to their health insurance industry support.

It is so disqusting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 AM on 06/03/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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We need a full-scale national health system.

Nationalize the insurance companies and run them as non-profits as a transitional move.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 06/03/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 92 fans permalink
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Bad week to be using the word trigger, what with the murder of a doctor by a domestic terrorist and all. Trigger. Bad word to use, bad indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 06/03/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 386 fans permalink
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I thought they were talking about Roy Rogers' horse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 06/03/2009

Obama Leaves Health Benefit Tax "On Table"

http://www.newsendorser.com/node/709

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 06/03/2009
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Oh is this the same one that he slammed John McCain for?

Obama is in it for Obama only. Anyone who thinks otherwise has their collective heads up their rears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 06/03/2009
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 23 fans permalink

The insurance companies are investing heavily in some powerful loopholes.

If we don't actively keep up the pressure on Congress they will get the loopholes they've paid for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 06/03/2009
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 38 fans permalink

Forming an FDIC like regulator with special authority across all Health Care, to weed out low value, fraudulent, paper pushing, and patient bankrupting players like the insurance companies.

Where else do we pay twice the cost (a phenomenal and growing 17% of GDP) for mediocre coverage? America. We buy Cadillac Health Care and all we get are clunkers, if we get anything at all.

Where else will the private sector bankrupt patients, then once completely picked over, and devastated, hand over those patients to government Medicaid once they are destitute.

We allow this to happen in America. For Shame. Criminal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 06/03/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 109 fans permalink
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If it was all up to Obama...and he was the only one doing the Healthcare Reform...
then it would be magic...we'd get the Universal Healthcare.
But we have these same ol same ol Washington leaders who live lifestyles of the rich and
famous (covered to the teets in healthcare)...and who only MOVE for Bush and Terri Shy-vo.
We are behind the times because of them.
S...L....O....W...nit-picky when it comes to Americas real needs.

WE are the change people!
WE need to actually DO something!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 06/03/2009
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