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Obama Lands In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

MARK S. SMITH   06/ 3/09 08:41 AM ET   AP

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RIYDAH, Saudi Arabia — President Barack Obama is in Saudi Arabia after an overnight flight from Washington. Obama is planning to meet with Saudi King Abdullah to discuss a host of thorny problems, from Arab-Israeli peace efforts to Iran's nuclear program. The surge in oil prices also was on the agenda.

The president was to stay overnight at the king's horse farm in the desert outside Riyadh before heading to Egypt.

The talks with the monarch come a day before the president is to deliver a highly anticipated speech in Cairo on the U.S. relationship with the world's 1.5 billion Muslims.

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WASHINGTON (AP) _ President Barack Obama is beginning his latest bid to open a dialogue with the Muslim world by paying a call on Saudi King Abdullah, guardian of Islam's sacred sites in Mecca and Medina.

The monarch of Saudi Arabia plans to greet Obama at Riyadh's main airport with coffee and ceremony when he arrives Wednesday after an overnight flight from Washington.

Saudi Arabia is a stopover en route to Cairo, where Obama is to set deliver a speech that he's been promising since last year's election campaign _ aiming to set a new tone in America's often-strained dealings with the world's 1.5 billion Muslims.

Many of those Muslims still smolder over Iraq, Guantanamo and unflinching U.S. support of Israel, but they are hoping the son of a Kenyan Muslim who lived part of his childhood in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, can help chart a new course.

"You know, there are misapprehensions about the West, on the part of the Muslim world," Obama said in a pretrip interview with the BBC. "And, obviously, there are some big misapprehensions about the Muslim world when it comes to those of us in the West."

Aides cautioned that Obama was not out to break new policy ground in his Cairo speech, which follows visits to Turkey and Iraq in April and a series of outreach efforts including a Persian New Year video and a student town hall in Istanbul. And they said the president is not expecting quick results, even though the speech will be distributed as widely as possible.

"We don't expect that everything will change after one speech," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Tuesday. "I think it will take a sustained effort and that's what the president is in for."

Officials said Obama also wouldn't flinch from difficult topics, whether it's the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, the goal of a Palestinian state or democracy and human rights. Obama has been criticized for setting the address in Egypt, where President Hosni Mubarak has jailed dissidents and clung to power for nearly three decades.

In Riyadh, the president was talking to Abdullah about a host of thorny problems, from Arab-Israeli peace efforts to Iran's nuclear program. The Saudis have voiced growing concern in private that an Iranian bomb could unleash a nuclear arms race in the region.

The surge in oil prices also was on the agenda. Crude topped $68 a barrel this week, sparking fears that a fresh jump in energy costs could snuff out early sparks of a recovery from a deep global slump.

Obama likely will be looking for help from Saudi Arabia on what to do with some 100 Yemeni detainees locked up in the Guantanamo Bay prison. Discussions over where to send the Yemeni detainees have complicated Obama's plan to close the prison. The U.S. has been hesitant to send them home because of Yemen's history of either releasing extremists or allowing them to escape from prison.

Instead, the Obama administration has been negotiating with Saudi Arabia and Yemen for months to send them to Saudi terrorist rehabilitation centers.

The president was to stay overnight at the king's horse farm in the desert outside Riyadh. Abdullah, who hosted then-President George W. Bush at the ranch in January of last year, keeps some 260 Arabian horses on its sprawling grounds in air-conditioned comfort.

In any effort to court Muslims, the Saudis will be key _ not just for their oil wealth, but by virtue of the authority they wield at the center of Arab history and culture.

Obama's meeting with the 84-year-old Abdullah will be his second in three months. The two saw each other at the G-20 summit in London, a meeting both sides called friendly and productive. Perhaps a bit too friendly: Critics accused Obama of bowing to the Saudi monarch during a photo-op. The White House maintained he was merely bending to shake hands with a shorter man.

"This in many ways will be one of the pivotal relationships President Obama can develop," said Robin Wright, a scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center. "Saudi Arabia is important not just in terms of the Gulf and oil prices. It sets the tenor. It's one of the most conservative regimes. It's also important because King Abdullah is, among the various royals, more open-minded than others. These are two men who might actually deal well with each other."

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02:52 AM on 06/04/2009
I would love to stay up and talk. But I have this telecon at 6:00AM Pacific time, thanks to East Coasters. I must wake up early.

I hate when I do that to people, and especially to you.
Good night.
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02:54 AM on 06/04/2009
It is late! Good night, Hume.
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02:51 AM on 06/04/2009
I'll never keep up with you, Hume. You have everything that makes humans human. You have it all.
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02:28 AM on 06/04/2009
I just realized that I'm saying too much here. Let me blame it on the wine, and just stop.
The wine made me say those things. Not my fault.
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02:29 AM on 06/04/2009
Then to the wine, I say, thank you. Wine, your honesty and wisdom inspires me.
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02:38 AM on 06/04/2009
Yeah, my wisdom. Sure.
But it is a shame that we are so constrained in talking about what we each feel and experience in our own worlds, in our own minds. It is rare that you come across someone who would open up, and let it just flow. It's a beautiful experience to have thoughts coming from different people mingle, and create new thoughts, new emotions, new connections,. Discoveries.
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02:12 AM on 06/04/2009
Here's the weirdness. My brain is always seeking connections, between totally unrelated things, in strange places, not only in the physical world, letting thoughts go wherever they want, mix with other thoughts, and every once in a while, bingo, a connection is made.
And when that happens, the body responds, using the very few reactions it can produce, such as happiness, or crying or sexual arousal, or laughter.
Many of those connections prove worthless, except for the bodily reactions. But, once in a while, a connection is created that is a keeper.

That I call a discovery. If not for others, for me.

One must always seek discoveries. Well! maybe not, but I do. I live for those.

Is that weird enough?
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02:18 AM on 06/04/2009
No. Not weird at all. Without the what you call discoveries, the in-between experiences, you would not have the discoveries.

That's what is beautiful. The in-between that makes us savor the discoveries.

That's my take, anyway.
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02:22 AM on 06/04/2009
And that sounds woefully like Palin wrote it.
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02:25 AM on 06/04/2009
Then you are weird also.
But there is more. Do you know that a connection was made when you posted that Tsabropoulos link, and I was looking for something to play on my stereo.

That was exactly what I was looking for, because somehow Greece had entered my mind earlier, and there is story behind why that happened. You posted, and bingo, the whole thing came together.

This has little to do with science, and yet everything.
Poetry has to do with science, and music. And a beautiful woman. And a child. Everything.
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02:11 AM on 06/04/2009
I'm trying to find a decent version of that greek dude on youtube. Can you find one?
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02:20 AM on 06/04/2009
They keep changing/deleting YouTube stuff.
Here is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdDKkAh94U4

Also,
http://www.tsabropoulos.gr/

I like the Secret Garden. I like all secret gardens, everywhere.
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02:26 AM on 06/04/2009
Thank you. I have the cd. Why is the cd not good enough??
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01:54 AM on 06/04/2009
I think I'm losing in this symbolism game. I don't really have much to offer. And the symbolisms I learnt are working against me. For example, I don't like snakes, and I'm not that fond of orchids.

To heck with symbolisms. I don't like them.
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01:57 AM on 06/04/2009
You are always smarter than the average frog. I miss most of what you say. My bad.
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02:00 AM on 06/04/2009
Before I respond, what does a frog symbolize?
I'm not falling into your trap again.
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01:52 AM on 06/04/2009
I think my mind is wandering into places that it shouldn't be wandering. But I kind of like to let my mind wander, and find new places.
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01:53 AM on 06/04/2009
Intellectual curiosity....
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01:57 AM on 06/04/2009
Yes. But my intellectual curiosity gets complex. Science mixes with other things, random thoughts, producing unexpected emotional and bodily reactions.
In other words, I'm weird.
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01:49 AM on 06/04/2009
Who's that greek composer, again?
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01:55 AM on 06/04/2009
whose
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01:58 AM on 06/04/2009
Vassilis Tsabropoulos?
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02:00 AM on 06/04/2009
Yes! And you are not weird!
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01:46 AM on 06/04/2009
This is not symbolism, and it is kind of gross. But this Je-wi-sh man was selling a wallet that, he said, if you stroke it, it turns into a suitcase.
He said that he made it out of skin cut from a certain part of the body during a religious ceremony.
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02:04 AM on 06/04/2009
I laughed at this earlier. Got sc rubbed. LOL
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01:41 AM on 06/04/2009
Why does the D-ev-il has a tail. What's that about?
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01:44 AM on 06/04/2009
The devil is s e x y!
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01:49 AM on 06/04/2009
Then it's too bad that I don't have a tail.
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01:34 AM on 06/04/2009
Some orchids are good.
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01:38 AM on 06/04/2009
snakes and orchids typically don't have a scent.
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01:39 AM on 06/04/2009
That's lucky, I would say.
How about swan and lotus? What is that about? I see that in many Hindu texts.
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12:50 AM on 06/04/2009
Hello?
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01:07 AM on 06/04/2009
Let's do symbolism.
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01:13 AM on 06/04/2009
snakes and orchids.
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12:30 AM on 06/04/2009
The rich, tastey irony of huffypoo;

new main headline sez;

"Tiananmen Square, 20 Years Later: News, Photos And Video From Around The World (六四事件)"

Comments section sez,

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12:27 AM on 06/04/2009
I like brotherhood among men.
I have doubts about how much sisterhood we should have. In fact, I don't think I want any more sisters than I already have. That would severely restrict my freedom.
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12:24 AM on 06/04/2009
HP, I said some really obscene thnings to you on those other threads. Thanks for blocking those and saving me from getting banned.
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