Sotomayor's Defense Of White Racist Speech Looms Large In Confirmation Battle

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First Posted: 06- 3-09 11:16 AM   |   Updated: 06- 3-09 11:12 PM

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Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department employee who was fired for distributing bigoted and racist material.

Sotomayor's opinion in the 2002 case of Pappas v. Giuliani does not seem like a judicial cause célèbre for progressives. But in the days since she was named Obama Supreme Court nominee, it has emerged as an effective counterweight to charges that she is a judicial activist bent on helping minorities like herself.

Those intimately involved in the case say that Sotomayor's dissent -- in which she defended the First Amendment rights of a employee who had distributed white supremacist material -- shows a type of jurisprudence diametrically at odds with the caricature painted by her conservative critics.

"It showed that she is not knee jerk when it comes to dealing with racial issues," said Chris Dunn, an attorney for the New York Civil Liberties Union who argued the defense. "That was the case in which she took the side of a person obviously engaging in racist conduct and recognized the important First Amendment interest that was represented. She respected that interest and stuck to it."

Thomas Pappas had worked in the New York City Police Department since January, 1982, primarily in the Management Information Systems Division. In August 1999, he was fired by then commissioner Howard Safir after it was discovered that he had mailed more than 200 pieces of racially insensitive and anti-Semitic material from his home to various political groups who had been soliciting him for donations. Among the more than 200 or so pieces of literature Pappas had sent out were pamphlets from the National Association for the Advancement of White People.

A member and chairman of the Populist Party of the Town of North Hempstead, whose platform included repealing the federal income tax and abolishing the IRS, Pappas sued Safir and New York City's Mayor Rudy Giuliani on grounds that they had violated his First Amendment rights. In October 2000, U.S. District Court Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald ruled that the NYPD had operated within the rule of law.

The case was appealed and in 2002 it found its way to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The three-judge panel, which included Sotomayor, considered two main components of the case: Whether Pappas's "speech" was of public concern and whether it had "interfered with" the NYPD's activities. Two of the three judges upheld the district court decision that it didn't matter that Pappas had sent these mailings anonymously from his private home. "Although Pappas tried to conceal his identity as speaker," they ruled, "he took the risk that the effort would fail."

While finding the speech "offensive, hateful and insulting," Sotomayor dissented. Her basis was the precedent established by Rankin v. McPherson, in which the Supreme Court held that a public employee in Texas who cheered the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan in a conversation with a fellow worker had not interfered with the office's operations, because her job did not require public contact. But Sotomayor also did not shy away from the constitutional implications of the Pappas case.

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"I of course do not dispute the majority's premise that a public employee's free speech interest is often subordinated to the effective functioning of a government employer," Sotomayor's dissent read. "I also agree that it is appropriate to consider the agency's mission in relation to the nature of the speech, and I appreciate the enormous importance of race relations to the operation of the NYPD. These facts alone, however, do not support the constitutionality of the NYPD's termination of Pappas. The well-established case law of the Supreme Court and this Court requires a more searching inquiry."

Seven years later, that opinion and those words in particular have struck observers as uniquely important aspects of Sotomayor's lengthy record. The political implications are obvious: A Latina judge accused of being a "reverse-racist" took the side of the white supremacist police officer at a time when the NYPD was widely resented and distrusted by New York's minority communities.

"Certainly during the Giuliani administration there were many instances where police officers engaged in racially insensitive conduct, at best, while on duty," said Dunn. "And so the easy thing for someone to do would be to say, 'let's fire someone for engaging in racially insensitive activity.' That would have been the easy out. It was certainly what people traditionally viewed as progressives were calling for. But she didn't accept that. She said that even though what this guy did may be racist, I will uphold his constitutional rights. And that is a position of principle."

Observers say Sotomayor's dissent also offers a vivid indication into what type of kind of judicial philosophy she will bring to the bench.

"What I found after looking at some of her statements is someone who I think takes the First Amendment extremely seriously," said Maria Blanco, Executive Director for the Chief Justice Earl Warren Institute at University of California, Berkeley. "She went with the facts. But what you see is she that she also put an extremely heavy burden of proof on a defendant who is trying to abridge privacy or First Amendment protections. That has not been the case with the Supreme Court in the past, though we have had some famous pro-First Amendment judges."

"I actually think that on these issues she may end up being a [Justice William] Brennan type," Blanco added. "That is just my instinct as a lawyer who has done constitutional law for many years."

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Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department...
Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department...
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- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 49 fans permalink

The true test of a fair judge is a case like that, where the judge knows they are doing something that is legally correct, maybe even morally correct, but personally repugnant. That she ruled in favor of free speech, even when that free speech was not in her personal or professional interest, should speak volumes about her qualifications and honesty.

The right has hammered this into the ground, and made it abundantly clear that they have nothing. She will be confirmed, and will be a great justice, in the best traditions of the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/03/2009
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It appears that she was in favor of free speech as a concept and an ideal in this case, but she was correctly in the minority as far as being the dissenting opinion. Pappas' actions as an NYPD police officer do not qualify as free speech due to the responsibilities of being in that profession. If he were not a cop, but a citizen and civilian with a different job entirely, then it's possible he would have been protected under the First Amendment.

HP did not supply all the facts or a thorough analysis. If you want a link, here it is.

http://vlex.com/vid/pappas-rudolph-giuliani-safir-police-18533138

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 06/03/2009
- jdlund I'm a Fan of jdlund 7 fans permalink

Actually you are wrong. If he were a civilian with a private job he would have no recourse whatsoever to seek first amendment protection for being fired. If I say something unpopular and my boss fires me I cannot sue him for abridging my first amendment rights. He's a private employer. I could try wrongful dismissal but that would be a weak case. However government employees can sue under section 1983. This one is still iffy. Sure if there was proof that his beliefs lead him to treat people of certain groups differently then yes they should have the power to dismiss him. But they dismissed him for sending things out from the privacy of his home. They had no evidence of racist use of police power.

I can see why they would want to get rid of him, but your argument has no merit, of course police offices have the protection of the first amendment. If a police officer said something disparaging about the mayor and he was fired, heck yes he'd have a s1983 claim and I'd represent that man in a heartbeat. But here, I don't know it's a close call. It depends if he was advocating those views from the pulpit of his job, did he speak out about white supremacy while advertising that he's a cop, then I could see it. Otherwise, I just think the first amendment should rarely ever get crossed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 06/03/2009
- DMcD I'm a Fan of DMcD 11 fans permalink
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Limburger "may support Sotomayer" ..........­.
as if his "support" meant anything , at all .......
He is 'not' a public official or anything even remotely approaching a person of 'integrity' ,
as is the pre-requisite and custom when soliciting endorsements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 06/03/2009
- willt7311 I'm a Fan of willt7311 125 fans permalink
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I doubt Soto or anyone else was soliciting his endorsement.

You lefties don't get it anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 06/03/2009
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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What's to get? Our president fetches us burgers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 06/03/2009
- willt7311 I'm a Fan of willt7311 125 fans permalink
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I am sure that Limbaugh is appreciative of all the airplay you lefties give him.

Let me help you guys out. Many conservatives think Limbaugh is an irritating blowhard yet we defend him only because you attack him.

You make him headline news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 06/03/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 49 fans permalink

See, there's the problem with the current Republican party. They play ONLY to the base, and have no idea how tinhorn their crowing sounds outside of that small circle with their agreed upon views. The fact that their pronouncements look dim bulb to even casual and non-political persons is completely lost on them. Rush is a bully and blowhard. That even the looniest left-wing commentators sound more logically based is an indication of just how far Rush's cheese has slipped off his cracker. That even he sounds like Gore Vidal next to the lunatic rantings of a Glen Beck or empty bloviating of O'Reilly is a tragedy for the Republicans, who once had actual ideas and ideals.

As long as we are thanking folks, thanks for DIck Cheney and the utter failure of the previous administration, which made it possible to elect a completely unlikely candidate. And thanks also for the stupidity and ego of Tundra Barbie, and the Republican leadership who figure that the reason Barack Obama was elected is because he was a Black guy, so all they had to do was get their own Black guy. At this rate, Hillary will be the next president, after the 8 years of the Obama Administration. He pulls clear of even a few of the trapdoors the previous administration left hanging and you make him even a bigger hero than he is now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 06/03/2009
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"...yet we defend him only because you attack him."

Now that's what I call integrity!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 06/04/2009
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Is that why you still stick up for Bush and Cheney?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 06/04/2009
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Ok, Limborg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 06/04/2009
- Jestor I'm a Fan of Jestor 2 fans permalink

Defending one's Freedom of Speech may not always be popular

even when those views seem to go against our better American values..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/03/2009
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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The Sotomayor case: There's politics, and then there's e.vil

“The very idea that a judge's ‘life experiences' should influence judicial decisions is as a.bsurd as it is dangerous,” Thomas Sowell wrote yesterday on RealClearPolitics.com.

Newt G.ingrich, twittered: “New r.acism is no better than old r.acism. A white man r.acist nominee would be forced to withdraw. Latina woman r.acist should also withdraw.”

Mr. Sowell's statement is wrong. Mr. G.ingrich'­s statement is e.vil.

In 1896, seven Supreme Court judges ruled that it was constitutional for states to segregate the black race from the white. Their ruling flew in the face of the 13th and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

But those seven white men knew that Southern whites were determined to deprive blacks of their civil rights, and nothing short of another civil war would stop them. So the judges p.erverted the Constitution, the law and the court to provide segregation with a veneer of legality.

Continued.­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/03/2009
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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Part 2:
Fifty-eight years later, nine white men overturned Plessy in Brown v. Board, the most important Supreme Court decision of the 20th century. Why did the court reverse itself? Because times had changed.

You know two things about yourself: First, you know that your world view has been shaped by the times in which you live, your genetic inheritance and the way your life has unfolded. You also know that you know this, and so you try to be careful not to let your inclinations ride roughshod over the facts. JUDGES KNOW THIS, TOO.

So Mr. Sowell was wrong to assert that judges can, let alone should, apply the law devoid of any personal context. Context mingles with law and precedent to produce judgments.

Posted by: John Ibbitson
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/the-sotomayor-case-theres-politics-and-then-theres-evil/article1165720/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 06/03/2009
- DACC I'm a Fan of DACC 185 fans permalink
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nice, thank you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 06/03/2009

Thank you. And any intellectually honest person would acknowledge that. Of course, being intellectually honest does require an intellect.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 06/03/2009
- Highwind I'm a Fan of Highwind 7 fans permalink
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The man had no right to harass people and that's exactly what he was doing. She made a mistake here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 06/03/2009
- DACC I'm a Fan of DACC 185 fans permalink
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...but now let's step back into the real world where we are bound by law, k?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 06/03/2009

which make believe law is that? cause in the real real world the h4te spewing r4ac1st cop was legally fired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 06/03/2009
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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mikeVA: "Honor Ronald Reagan centennial for what?!"

Coyote2: "His hundredth birthday. It indicates that conservatism is obsolete when the Democrats honor the d.ead conservative gods."

golferman: "Couldn't be a truer statement.­"

ladyvader: "That is what I was thinking."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/03/2009
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His legacy cost MILLIONS of people their LIVES.

His "memory" should be SCORN.., not "honor".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 06/03/2009
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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relax, we always honor the d.ead gods

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 06/03/2009
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

MILLIONS you say. Explain?

Also, the people in Eastern Europe might disagree with you.

Did he get 58,000 Americans and 2 million Vietnamese killed like LBJ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 06/04/2009
- KO4Pres I'm a Fan of KO4Pres 156 fans permalink
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Whatever!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 06/03/2009
- ZIPCODE I'm a Fan of ZIPCODE 5 fans permalink
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A question for all you Free Speech~ers.

What if Mr. Pappas was one of President Obama's Secret Service Agents?

How would you feel about 'Sonia from Soundview's' Opinion, now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 06/03/2009
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Free speech is FREE SPEECH... even juvenile CRAP like YOUR POST should be protected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/03/2009

Wow great word play there. I suppose you are insinuating that if he was a secret service agent he would harm the president? Well hell i can roll with this. What if a Ice cream vendor doesn't like children..­.Would he poison them. What if the mechanic didn't like blacks... Would he not tighten the lug nuts on their tire. What if... See how stupid this gets. He was a techie from the it department. They found no evidence that his views affected his work and he never threatened anyone. Therefore the law... You know that thing all men are created equal under. Says he should not be fired. O ya and I am fairly certain the do pretty substantial background checks on Secret Service members so i think we are in the clear. But you are right though we should lock everyone up because the might do something to someone. But unfortunately the laws says we cant. Its that whole freedom thing. The thing that allows this guy to be a ignorant fool and allows you to post bull*$&# hypothetical questions with out the fear of getting drop kicked. God bless the USA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 06/03/2009
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 318 fans permalink
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Apples and oranges, trollie

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 06/03/2009
- FairTalk I'm a Fan of FairTalk 18 fans permalink
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How would you feel if someone yelled fire in a crowded movie theatre?

That's the test.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/03/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 49 fans permalink

Meanwhile, in the real world, she comes off sounding way more like a judge who will rule on the case by what the law says, not on what we would all like. As long as you are playing Captain Hypothetical, what makes you think that a Black guy would not be a good Naval officer, even though the Navy was the last and latest service to eliminate racism, no matter how reluctantly they did it? Do you honestly think that the guys who were protecting the Shrub were doing it out of love? Duty and honor mean more to some folks than their personal opinion.

A person who holds racist thoughts could still be a fair person in their public and professional life, as a majority of police officers in the 1960s and 1970s were. But it is much harder, and they are much more likely to slip. Don't kid yourself, Bucko... Personally, they were way worse than you could ever imagine, like the officer at the Maxwell Street precinct in Chicago who thought that the south side would riot and take over the city when Harold Washington was elected mayor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 06/03/2009
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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Hmmm...so she upholds America's laws protecting free speech over her personal feelings against racists. No doubt we'll hear little about that from the MSM, and probably not at all from Fox News. It's what I hate most about politics: that people grab on to the ONE thing they can find to defend THEIR position, and completely ignore all the facts that prove otherwise.­..and that people are so willing to smear another person, yet cry like a baby should another pol do it to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/03/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 337 fans permalink
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Another stupid headline. She didn't defend "white rac.st speech", she defended FREE speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 06/03/2009

curiouser and curiouser. However you are wrong, she dissented from the majority opinion that rr4s1st h4te speech was grounds for firing a NYC cop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 06/03/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 337 fans permalink
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Why do you stupidly think that I agree with her decision. I've been profiled by rac.st NYPD members since I was a teenager. I thought the guy should have been fired.

My point is that Sotomayor's opinion was based on her belief that the firing was unconstitutional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 06/03/2009
- ZIPCODE I'm a Fan of ZIPCODE 5 fans permalink
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And it was!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/03/2009
- slaxx I'm a Fan of slaxx 37 fans permalink
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he wasn't a cop, but worked in the IT department.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/03/2009
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Only those living in the segregated areas don't defend so called ra cist speech. As a black woman, I can say that most black folks or other so called minorities who've benefited from perceived Affirmative Action policies, feel in obliged to defend even the most h ateful remarks, even if it compromises their integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 06/03/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 337 fans permalink
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Strongly disagree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 06/03/2009

so called Minorities? Care to elaborate. Also i grew up in a mixed community and many of my best friends are black and Hispanic and I know they do not agree with you. No person of integrity regardless of their race defend hateful and bigoted remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 06/03/2009
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Wow. The "Rev." Jesse Lee Peterson could not have said it better himself.

http://www.campusprogress.org/tools/428/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 06/03/2009

"or other so called minorities" What's up with that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 06/03/2009
- dphilip I'm a Fan of dphilip 41 fans permalink

As I understand it her hostility to the 2nd Amendment is going to be a bigger hurdel for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/03/2009
- Benton I'm a Fan of Benton 40 fans permalink

I think that is the point of the article. Clearly as one who would be the target of white supremacist speech, she sided with the law over the emotional impact of a type of speech that would deride her personally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 06/03/2009

sided with "the law" - what law? she gave a dissenting opinion which means that it is not "the law". the majority opinion is "the law".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 06/03/2009
- SweetBabu I'm a Fan of SweetBabu 97 fans permalink
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What makes you say that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 06/03/2009
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(-)

Post meant for below

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 06/03/2009
- Pleneras I'm a Fan of Pleneras 61 fans permalink
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It amazes me to see people here discuss law as if they knew what they were talking about. The responses alone are shameful, except for the ones with common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/03/2009
- KO4Pres I'm a Fan of KO4Pres 156 fans permalink
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Like yours?

Bwahahahahahaha!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/03/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

Hate speech is protected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 06/03/2009

But your job isn't if you're on the city payroll and want to engage in it. Dangerous disgruntled loons should not be cops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/03/2009
- Benton I'm a Fan of Benton 40 fans permalink

But that is a different issue. That should have been handled at a different level in the hiring process. Unfortunately authoritarian cowardly types are attracted to positions of power that involve guns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 06/03/2009
- imsosure I'm a Fan of imsosure 29 fans permalink
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What more do they need to convict Cheney, now he's blaming his boss, everyone but himself. Yet he's the one peddling his influence with Blackwater to hire mercenaries, and the war machine makers. Cheney is acting just like anyone who gets caught doing something wrong fearful of the consequences blaming everyone around him for his behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 06/03/2009
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Yeah, like Mark Twain said, the thief wasn't sorry he'd stolen, he was just sorry he got caught.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/03/2009
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That's for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 06/03/2009
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