Sotomayor's Defense Of White Racist Speech Looms Large In Confirmation Battle

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Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department employee who was fired for distributing bigoted and racist material.

Sotomayor's opinion in the 2002 case of Pappas v. Giuliani does not seem like a judicial cause célèbre for progressives. But in the days since she was named Obama Supreme Court nominee, it has emerged as an effective counterweight to charges that she is a judicial activist bent on helping minorities like herself.

Those intimately involved in the case say that Sotomayor's dissent -- in which she defended the First Amendment rights of a employee who had distributed white supremacist material -- shows a type of jurisprudence diametrically at odds with the caricature painted by her conservative critics.

"It showed that she is not knee jerk when it comes to dealing with racial issues," said Chris Dunn, an attorney for the New York Civil Liberties Union who argued the defense. "That was the case in which she took the side of a person obviously engaging in racist conduct and recognized the important First Amendment interest that was represented. She respected that interest and stuck to it."

Thomas Pappas had worked in the New York City Police Department since January, 1982, primarily in the Management Information Systems Division. In August 1999, he was fired by then commissioner Howard Safir after it was discovered that he had mailed more than 200 pieces of racially insensitive and anti-Semitic material from his home to various political groups who had been soliciting him for donations. Among the more than 200 or so pieces of literature Pappas had sent out were pamphlets from the National Association for the Advancement of White People.

A member and chairman of the Populist Party of the Town of North Hempstead, whose platform included repealing the federal income tax and abolishing the IRS, Pappas sued Safir and New York City's Mayor Rudy Giuliani on grounds that they had violated his First Amendment rights. In October 2000, U.S. District Court Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald ruled that the NYPD had operated within the rule of law.

The case was appealed and in 2002 it found its way to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The three-judge panel, which included Sotomayor, considered two main components of the case: Whether Pappas's "speech" was of public concern and whether it had "interfered with" the NYPD's activities. Two of the three judges upheld the district court decision that it didn't matter that Pappas had sent these mailings anonymously from his private home. "Although Pappas tried to conceal his identity as speaker," they ruled, "he took the risk that the effort would fail."

While finding the speech "offensive, hateful and insulting," Sotomayor dissented. Her basis was the precedent established by Rankin v. McPherson, in which the Supreme Court held that a public employee in Texas who cheered the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan in a conversation with a fellow worker had not interfered with the office's operations, because her job did not require public contact. But Sotomayor also did not shy away from the constitutional implications of the Pappas case.

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"I of course do not dispute the majority's premise that a public employee's free speech interest is often subordinated to the effective functioning of a government employer," Sotomayor's dissent read. "I also agree that it is appropriate to consider the agency's mission in relation to the nature of the speech, and I appreciate the enormous importance of race relations to the operation of the NYPD. These facts alone, however, do not support the constitutionality of the NYPD's termination of Pappas. The well-established case law of the Supreme Court and this Court requires a more searching inquiry."

Seven years later, that opinion and those words in particular have struck observers as uniquely important aspects of Sotomayor's lengthy record. The political implications are obvious: A Latina judge accused of being a "reverse-racist" took the side of the white supremacist police officer at a time when the NYPD was widely resented and distrusted by New York's minority communities.

"Certainly during the Giuliani administration there were many instances where police officers engaged in racially insensitive conduct, at best, while on duty," said Dunn. "And so the easy thing for someone to do would be to say, 'let's fire someone for engaging in racially insensitive activity.' That would have been the easy out. It was certainly what people traditionally viewed as progressives were calling for. But she didn't accept that. She said that even though what this guy did may be racist, I will uphold his constitutional rights. And that is a position of principle."

Observers say Sotomayor's dissent also offers a vivid indication into what type of kind of judicial philosophy she will bring to the bench.

"What I found after looking at some of her statements is someone who I think takes the First Amendment extremely seriously," said Maria Blanco, Executive Director for the Chief Justice Earl Warren Institute at University of California, Berkeley. "She went with the facts. But what you see is she that she also put an extremely heavy burden of proof on a defendant who is trying to abridge privacy or First Amendment protections. That has not been the case with the Supreme Court in the past, though we have had some famous pro-First Amendment judges."

"I actually think that on these issues she may end up being a [Justice William] Brennan type," Blanco added. "That is just my instinct as a lawyer who has done constitutional law for many years."

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Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department...
Of the thousands of cases decided by Judge Sonia Sotomayor, the one that could have the most influence on her confirmation for the Supreme Court involves the defense of New York City Police Department...
 
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From Geoffrey R. Stone: Remembering the Nazis in Skokie:

As Justice Louis Brandeis once explained, the Framers of our First Amendment knew "that fear breeds repression; that repression breeds hate; that hate menaces stable government; that the path of safety lies in the opportunity to discuss freely supposed grievances and proposed remedies; and that the fitting remedy for evil counsels is good ones."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/remembering-the-nazis-in_b_188739.html

I haven't read the Pappas decision, but it is beyond me why the other judges on the Circuit Court ruled for the government. Employers handle workplace hostilities among employees frequently, including those based on underlying bigotry. His position was not visible, so he couldn't be deemed to represent the NYPD in any way. The interference with activities argument ignores the realities of the workplace.

What if Pappas had written a series of Op-Ed pieces supporting gay rights? How would the Circuit Court have ruled if his government employer fired him citing backlash from homophobic co-workers?

Punishment for exercise of free speech can cut in any direction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 06/03/2009
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I think the only concern I have is the fact he was a tech guy. He held, possibly, the keys to the Kingdom. Not all bigots play banjos, marry their sisters, or rape farm animals, so are rather intelligent.

In the Russell Crowe movie, Roper Stomper, the lead bigot tells a protege he has to go to school, and become something, a credit to his race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/03/2009

If he was co-workers were Homophobic they would be in danger of being fired. Being Gay doesn't mean you have hostility toward straight people, but being homophobic outwardly means you do not like gays and aren't afraid to say it, or express it. Creating a hostile work environment for everyone.

Translate that to being a racist

If this guy was a Soldier and he was a member of Hamas and was sending money to that group and sending out their propaganda do you think there would be any doubt as to whether he would be Dishonorably Discharged from the service.

The Uniform Military Code of Justice is in place for our Soldiers, the police should be held to the same standard. Once you put that uniform on, you no longer are a private citizen you belong to the U.S. Government and you represent them even when you are off-duty, and it doesn't matter if you are Supply Room Clerk, or a General in the Pentagon. The Police shouldn't be treated any differently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 06/03/2009
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What a pity, she sided with Rush and he still has to find a reason for her to fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 06/03/2009
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Thank goodness for professionals with the integrity of Sotomayor. There's a Quinnipiac Poll out that showed that a whopping 71% of those polled disagreed with her opinion. As if Constitutional interpretation were up to public opinion or debate!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/03/2009
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Do you have a link to the poll?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 06/03/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 06/03/2009
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Found this at Media Matters. Very interesting:

A Quinnipiac University release misrepresented its own poll question to claim that a significant majority of Americans disagree with Judge Sonia Sotomayor's position in Ricci v. DeStefano. MSNBC's Willie Geist and Monica Novotny similarly misrepresented the poll's findings.

More:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200906030020

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 06/03/2009

It is... in a country of the people, by the people, for the people. The Supreme Court just gets final say on the interpretation, until opinion and debate change the Court's decisions. Roe v Wade?!?

"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is afraid of its people."
John Fitzgerald Kennedy

"There is no more fundamental axiom of American freedom than the familiar statement: In a free country we punish men for crimes they commit but never for the opinions they have."
Harry S. Truman

"I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking."
Woodrow Wilson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/03/2009
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no sir, it is not. the judicial branch is not a representative branch of public opinion. this is the reason why despite public opinion to the contrary, the supreme court decided in the late 60s that interracial marriage was legal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 06/03/2009
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its funny that you mention Roe v Wade - another example where the court decided a case based on constitutional interpretation against the prevailing public opinion in the matter, which is exactly the point

just because an idea is popular, doesn't make it legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 06/03/2009
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A liberal defending free speech rights even when they are those of a vile terrorristic pasty white supremisy and his dissemination of dastardly ha te speech. free speech is a right baby.

No fear here

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 06/03/2009
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My thoughts and I'd like to hear everybody elses here:

This is much ado about nothing. She is correct in her ruling....­....Even jerks have 1st amendment rights if there American citizens.

Now here is where I get 'deep' as they say: Had this clown distributed anti-black or anti-Puerto Rican material instead of anti-semitic, does everybody still think she would have ruled the same?.....­..afterall­, anti-semitic cracks happen all the time in NYC. Ask Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, others who have been caught making them......­...I would like to hear everybodies thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 06/03/2009
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Check out this link.

http://vlex.com/vid/pappas-rudolph-giuliani-safir-police-18533138

The HP article leaves out many facts. Pappas was a police officer who mailed racistandhateful materials to charitable organizations as a stooopid protest to their requests for donations. Not only were his mailings offensive, but at least one of the recipients was a government police agency (different from the NYPD). His actions do not meet the standard for employee or individual free speech. Sotomayor took some less than defensible routes in an attempt to defend him, though she should have known how clear the case was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/03/2009
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What is the standard of individual free speech that he was breaking? I thought that the only time individual free speech could be infringed upon was if it was an incitement to violence or injury (like yelling"fire" in a crowded movie theater). How does what he did violate that?

Also, was he actually a police officer, or was he a civilian working for the police department? The article above says he worked in the Management Information Systems division, which sounds like a civilian job, not one that would require him to take any kind of Oath like the police officers do. Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 06/03/2009

I have another hypothetical - what if steamboat is just making it up.

The fliers asserted wh_te supr_macy, ridiculed bl_ck people and their culture, warned against the "N_gro wolf... destroying American civilization with r_pe, robbery, and m_rder," and declaimed against "how the J_ws control the TV networks and why they should be in the hands of the American public and not the J_ws."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 06/03/2009

Basis Aryan Nation rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 06/03/2009

Not commenting on her ruling, but ok... it probably is much ado about nothing

"I have always been among those who believed that the greatest freedom of speech was the greatest safety, because if a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking."
Woodrow Wilson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 06/03/2009
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For clarification, Sotomayor DID NOT defend the content of the hate speech. Sotomayor said that private distribution of racist material wasn't sufficient as grounds for termination of someone's employment. This goes in the "of course" category. The headline, while sensational, is somewhat deceptive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/03/2009

Why do we use the term reverse-racist? You are either a racist or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 06/03/2009
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The fact that Newt backed down means they are looking at the polls. She has more experience in the judiciary than anyone nominated in the last 50+ years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/03/2009
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That is an odd measurement of competence. The judiciary is not run like a teacher's union.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 06/03/2009
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Experience, education and academic excellence counts. If experience counts for teachers it should count for justices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 06/03/2009
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Yeah, I am sure Newt is really concerned about those polls seeing as how is an elected official and everything. Speaking of polls, since every single poll ever taken on the issue indicates around 75% of the country is opposed to card check, does that mean we can expect this site to change its stance? Or are polls only relevant when they are to the benefit of a party you support?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/03/2009

I worked for a "retailer" and was forced to sign a piece of paper that said I would be fired for exercising my First Amendment right to peacefully gather (talk to a union rep) on or off of the job. No one cared. No one cared when they locked us in the store on Christmas Eve with an armed police security guard barring the exit until the place was 100%! Jobs can spy on you without either parties knowledge. Corperations have fired employees for gathering after work, smoking cigarettes at HOME... Why not this?

The defending of Freedom of Speech goes to Liberals? Don't Conservative kooks say Liberal kooks lifted the idea of Political Correctness from Mao's Little Red Book? Be careful what you say, lest you offend?

Both sides are at fault. The branch that usually makes the laws is usually split close to the 50/50 line. Left Wing/Right Wing anyone? These are people with POWER, INFLUENCE, and MONEY!! They will never give that up, they will seek to consolidate and gain! I defer to the most recent incarnations of The Fairness Doctrine! Government sanctioned control of news CONTENT on radio waves?!?

Consider Food Disparagement Laws. Yes, it's illegal to insult food and has been for almost 15 years. Don't want to disturb the Nobility's (US Corperations) wealth now.

It is an atrocity that this went all the way to the Supreme Court! That's just our government. Long list of partial freedoms no longer allowed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/03/2009
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Here’s what she said in the 1994 speech:

“Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that “a wise old man and a wise old woman reach the same conclusion in dueling cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes the line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, if Prof. Martha Minnow is correct, there can never be a universal definition of ‘wise.’ Second, I would hope that a wise woman with the richness of her experience would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion­.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 06/03/2009
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She went from just being sexist in 1994 to bringing race into it in 2001.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 06/03/2009
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from her 2001 speech

"Justice [Sandra Day] O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases," she declared. "I am . . . not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, . . . there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Justice O"Connor was speaking of a wise old man and a wise old woman reaching the same conclusion, Sotomayor is the one that brought r@ce into it. Why did she have to say latina and white? Also, notice how O"Connor used wise in both describing the Old Man and the Old Woman but Sotomayor drops the wise from white male but keeps it for Latina Woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/03/2009
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Have you read Sotomayor's words in context?

Sotomayor's quote, when taken in full accuracy and context, means that there are not enough minority voices in the judiciary to shape fully equitable policy.

From Newsweek:

Talking about the effect of race and gender on judicial decision-making, Sotomayor said, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." She also said that "the aspiration to impartiality is just that--it's an aspiration because it denies the fact that we are by our experiences making different choices than others. Not all women or people of color, in all or some circumstances or indeed in any particular case or circumstance but enough people of color in enough cases, will make a difference in the process of judging." That seems a particularly thoughtful observation, in the context of a long and thoughtful meditation on the role of personal experiences in judicial thinking. Sotomayor never pretends to know better than white men, and she doesn't purport to speak for all Latinos or all women. She merely believes that different judges make a difference in judging. And if you strip away all the rage of the identity politics wars, that point is irrefutabl­e."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/199484/page/2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/03/2009
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So exactly why is this a racist statement? By the way, the next sentence in the speech (conveniently left out) she goes on to applaud the nine white men who decided "Brown v. Board Of Education"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 06/03/2009
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I don't give a cr@p what he thinks...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 06/03/2009

the lady is obviously qualified. have the hearings asap, install her and lets move on to more pressing and difficult issues, senators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 06/03/2009
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Well of COURSE she defends racist speech!

LOLOLOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 06/03/2009
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Can we stop using the term "reverse-racist?" There is no such thing. The opposite of racism is tolerance or a total absense of racism.

A latina who is biased against a white is not a "reverse-racist" but is in fact racist.

Fortunately, I don't see Sotomayor grinding any axe against whites in her decision and although I think her "opinion" in the Ricci case was wrong, I do not think it was motivated by race. There is no evidence that it was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 06/03/2009
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The right has a tough time dealing with reasoned approaches to things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 06/03/2009
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Both sides have that difficulty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 06/03/2009
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No, the right dominates in this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 06/03/2009
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Try coming up with a reasoned approach to something and we'll find out!

(Oh! Wait "a reasoned approach to something"? I'll be here for days!)

Nevermind!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 06/03/2009

Yeah, logically-­challenged­. Must be tough on the shortbus crowd with our new President, just look at FauxNews- and the involuntary spittle they cover their gusts with. Yuck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 06/03/2009
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"Shortbus crowd"

That's funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 06/03/2009
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