Carradine Had Rope Around Genitals: Thai Police

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MICHAEL CASEY | 06/ 5/09 09:28 PM | AP

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A Thai forensic official walks out of his office in the compound of Chulalongkorn hospital where the body of Hollywood actor David Carradine is kept Friday, June 5, 2009 in Bangkok, Thailand. Carradine, star of the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" who also had a wide-ranging career in the movies, has been found dead in Bangkok. A news report said he was found hanged in his hotel room and was believed to have committed suicide. (AP Photo/Apichart Weerawong)

BANGKOK — Police are speculating that accidental suffocation, not suicide, may have caused the death of American cult actor David Carradine, whose body was found in a hotel closet in the Thai capital with a rope tied to his neck, wrist and genitals.

Celebrity blogs and social networking Web sites were abuzz with news of the death of Carradine _ best known for the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu." The circumstances under which he died have led to speculation that the 72-year-old actor may have been engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

The practice involves temporarily cutting off the supply of oxygen to the brain to heighten the effects of a sexual climax.

Carradine's body was discovered Thursday morning in his luxury suite by a chambermaid at Bangkok's Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel, said its general manager, Aurelio Giraudo. Police embassy representatives while preparations were being made for its repatriation to the United States, expected to be in the next few days. Under U.S. privacy laws, the embassy is not allowed to release further details without permission of the family of the deceased.

Dr. Nanthana Sirisap, director of Chulalongkorn Hospital's Autopsy Center, told reporters that the autopsy was conducted because of the "unusual circumstances surrounding Carradine's death," but did not elaborate.

Police Lt. Teerapop Luanseng had said Thursday that Carradine's body was found "naked, hanging in a closet," and police at that time suspected suicide. However, no suicide note has been found.

Carradine's friends and associates insisted he would not kill himself.

"All we can say is, we know David would never have committed suicide," said Tiffany Smith of Binder & Associates, his management company. "We're just waiting for them to finish the investigation and find out what really happened. He really appreciated everything life has to give ... and that's not something David would ever do to himself."

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Pornthip Rojanasunand, director of Thailand's Central Institute of Forensic Science, said the circumstances suggested that Carradine may have died performing auto-erotic asphyxiation, which is said to result in a form of giddiness and euphoria _ similar to alcohol or drug intoxication _ that enhances the sexual experience.

"In some cases it can suggest murder, too. But sometimes when the victim is naked and in bondage, it can suggest that the victim is doing it to himself," said Pornthip, who is considered the country's top criminal forensics expert but who did not take part in the autopsy. "If you hang yourself by the neck, you don't need so much pressure to kill yourself. Those who get highly sexually aroused tend to forget this fact."

Carradine had flown to Thailand last week and began work on a film titled "Stretch" two days before his death, Smith said. He had several other projects lined up after the action film, which was being directed by Charles de Meaux.

Carradine was in good spirits when he left the U.S. for Thailand on May 29 to work on "Stretch," his manager Smith said by phone from Beverly Hills.

Monica Donati, a spokesman for the French film company MK2, which was making "Stretch," said in statement from Paris that the film crew in Bangkok was "clearly shocked" by Carradine's death but would finish shooting. Carradine only had three more days of filming left in Bangkok, she said.

"David was apparently very happy about this new role and about filming again," she said.

Hotel manager Giraudo described Carradine as "very much a person full of life" who chatted with the staff.

"He was a great piano player and played a few nights in the hotel lobby," he said, "He also played the flute and the guests really enjoyed it. I mentioned to him that I had seen (the movie) 'Crank' with my family and that was the last smile he gave me."

Carradine, a martial arts practitioner himself, was best known for the U.S. TV series "Kung Fu," which aired in 1972-75. He played Kwai Chang Caine, an orphan who was raised by Shaolin monks and fled China after killing the emperor's nephew in retaliation for the murder of his kung fu master.

Carradine also appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby.

He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga "Kill Bill." Bill, the worldly father figure of a pack of crack assassins, was a shadowy presence in 2003's "Kill Bill _ Vol. 1." In that film, one of Bill's former assassins (Uma Thurman) begins a vengeful rampage against her old associates, including Bill.

BANGKOK — Police are speculating that accidental suffocation, not suicide, may have caused the death of American cult actor David Carradine, whose body was found in a hotel closet in the Thai ca...
BANGKOK — Police are speculating that accidental suffocation, not suicide, may have caused the death of American cult actor David Carradine, whose body was found in a hotel closet in the Thai ca...
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- Obamanaut I'm a Fan of Obamanaut 10 fans permalink
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I ask you all: Would you like to have everyone in your family, everyone who ever called you friend - Heck, everyone who ever called you enemy, even - anyone you ever did business with or associated with in any way, know that you died with a rope tied around your goodies? This is a major problem I have with the media. You HAVE to have some decorum in these matters. Someone is dead. Do you really think it fair that the lasting image you leave of that person is one of deviance or depravity? Perhaps it isn't Carradine's doing that he was found in this particular situation. Even better that the media should have more respect than that for a fellow human being. All for the provocatousness they can wring out of anything they get their hands on to sell a story. This is a shame. Huff Post, you're guilty as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 06/07/2009
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It is just honesty in reporting. Is that what is wrong with modern media? IMO we don't have nearly enough truth, so I'm sorry if I don't support your theory that the media should politely pretend he hanged himself fully clothed in a fit of despair when he was just seeking pleasure.

Would I have phrased the headline differently? Yes. 'Carradine Death Suspected Accident; Victim of Failed Auto-Erotic Asphyxiation Attempt' is better. But we don't live in the Victorian era, and the act he was performing is extreme, but not uncommon, and it is important that people are reminded that it can lead to death - especially teenage boys who are the most likely to die trying it.I don't think it is embarrassing, especially since it is the truth, and he is not the first celebrity to die this way. Sex is a part of life. Age is a part of life. Death is a part of life. Accidents happen. Stop trying to censor and judge everyone's life (and death), and accept what comes as part of the journey.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 06/07/2009

Mr. Naut, 21st Century media is explicit. Facts are facts, without judgement, I personally suspect a 2nd party involved in this untimely death. A cautionary tale...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/07/2009

The Bangkok Post report on June 5th that his hands were also tied. They found a footprint on the bed that did not match any shoes worn by the actor. There was a glass of water found in the room, and they were checking to see if it had been tampered with.

Now the family is wanting the FBI to investigate his death. There are things not adding up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 06/07/2009
- Bobbygoode I'm a Fan of Bobbygoode 44 fans permalink

Yes the auto-eroticism theory falls about SLIGHTLY when these stories mention in passing that his HANDS WERE TIED BEHIND HIS BACK. That is a neat trick to do by yourself. Oh and now there was a footprint on the bed... PLEASE! Was his wallet missing, too? Geez... I'm so sorry for this guy's life to be extinguished; he had been a fascinating actor and personality for many years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 06/07/2009
- b93950 I'm a Fan of b93950 4 fans permalink
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Frankly, I haven a clue what his family wants, as it is not considered a suicide, which would exclude life insurance.

It was deemed an accident and they should live with it. The FBI has no jurisdiction outside the USA and the News Media knows this but continues the saga to sell papers.

As far as I am concerned, it’s over, just like Sarah Palin who keeps popping up in the news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/07/2009

Ever the experimenter! Go in peace, grasshopper!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 06/07/2009
- atexasdem I'm a Fan of atexasdem 14 fans permalink

You didn't know? This is a secret exercise only for kung fu masters. Very hush hush. Obviously he missed the part where they teach you how to recover. Must have been filming that day or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/06/2009

You might say he was well hung

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 06/06/2009

Half Toronto is "xmontreal"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 06/06/2009

I'm in that half

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/06/2009
- PlayTOE I'm a Fan of PlayTOE 23 fans permalink
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What, no Thailand hooker was involved? He did it all himself?
Seems an unusual guess to jump to ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 06/06/2009

I think it would be a good idea to release these pictures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 06/06/2009

what Republicans got to say about this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 06/06/2009
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That's really sick and disgusting. I am probably one of the few people of my generation who even know the name David Carradine because of his role in the Kill Bill movies, and since that is how I was introduced to him, and that's how he went, I am disturbed for life. I have never heard of this kind of sex play and I can't believe he was doing it in Thailand..­.because I am Asian.

To all famous actors and actresses, do not leave the world this way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 06/06/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 253 fans permalink
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I didn't know old men were into that. Isn't that really more for people who, hmmmm, can't let themselves go? Repressed people....­? Not that there's anything wrong with that. (What do i know? Not much about this, believe me.)

But... i do know films are a great way to launder money. Especially if the film is in a foreign country. It's also quite common to insure the star, sometimes for lots of money, especially if the star is older and this money would go to who....? As Holmes said, "Motive, Watson, motive".

Just heard on Air America that the family wants the FBI and a private investigator involved. Smart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 06/06/2009

This would seem to add a whole new meaning to the advice to always practice "safe sex".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/06/2009
- unami I'm a Fan of unami 9 fans permalink
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The truth is colorless and tasteless liquid that takes on the color of it's container. This is done using a mechanical deboner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 06/06/2009
- texhall00 I'm a Fan of texhall00 12 fans permalink
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What? Now I've hear everything. I mean really, he should have been in bed reading a book with some warm milk and calling it a night. His young beautiful wife having good thoughs about her husband, while he in the closet doing this act. What's wrong with people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 06/06/2009
- lunchlady I'm a Fan of lunchlady 17 fans permalink

Ew, how embarrassing, but I guess he's not around to be embarrassed by how he died.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 06/06/2009
- TheBaffler I'm a Fan of TheBaffler 45 fans permalink
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It's probably as good a way to go as any. Better to go out having pleasure instead of pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 06/06/2009

Kinky sex will eventually bite you in the ass....or in his case....ne­ck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 06/06/2009
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