Conservation Pays: Selling Credits For Carbon As Profitable As Converting Rain Forests Into Plantations

MICHAEL CASEY | 06/ 5/09 12:01 AM | AP

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BANGKOK — Selling credits for the billions of tons of carbon that are locked in Indonesia's tropical rain forests could be as profitable as converting these areas into palm oil plantations, a study released Friday found.

The study, in the current issue of the peer-reviewed journal Conservation Letters, also found that conserving the 3.3 million hectares (8.2 million acres) that are slated to become plantations on Kalimantan, on the island of Borneo, would boost the region's biodiversity. The 800 proposed plantations that were studied contain 40 of the region's 46 threatened mammals including orangutans and pygmy elephants, the study found.

"Our study clearly demonstrates that payments made to reduce carbon emissions from forests could also be an efficient and effective way to protect biodiversity," said Oscar Venter, a conservation biologist at the University of Queensland in Australia and the study's lead author. "We now need to see policy discussions catch up with science because at the moment the potential co-benefits of linking forest protection to biodiversity are not getting the attention they deserve."

Under an international climate change agreement which would replace the Kyoto Protocol in 2012, governments are expected to create a framework allowing countries to get compensated for protecting their forests.

Among the scenarios being considered are providing countries with direct financial assistance for reducing their emissions from forests or allowing them to gain credits, which they could sell on an international carbon market to companies that have exceeded their allotted carbon cap.

Under the latter scenario, the study concluded that conserving forests would be more profitable than clearing them for palm oil if the credits could be sold for $10 to $33 per ton. Currently, the rate per ton is around $20, the study said.

A carbon trading market _ or "cap-and-trade" system _ works much like any commodities market except that traders make their fees selling a ton of carbon dioxide instead of corn or copper. At this point, the carbon dioxide traded for the most part comes from industrial sources.

Countries that agree to reduction targets are given permits for an amount of allowable carbon dioxide emissions which are passed onto businesses. Companies can choose to cut their emissions by retrofitting a factory and selling their permits for a profit _ or continuing to pollute and buying additional units of carbon dioxide on the open market.

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The World Bank's Timothy Brown, a natural resources management specialist in Indonesia, said the calculations seemed reasonable based on the expectation of growth within the carbon markets over the next 10 to 20 years.

But he said there still remains many questions about setting up the system known to avert deforestation and convincing local governments and companies to abandon the much greater certainty of gaining profits from palm oil for the much less certain prospect of earning money trading carbon credits.

"It's not only that the carbon markets are uncertain but the guy trying to access the carbon market is uncertain how to do it," Brown said. "He knows where to go to sell his oil palm. He knows these people. With the carbon market, who does he call? It's not a smooth and frictionless market."

Palm oil can be found in half of supermarket products from cosmetics to ice cream, according to the industry, and demand has risen sharply in China, India and the United States. The industry is also expected to grow as countries mandate the use of biofuels as part of a cleaner energy mix.

But as its profile has risen so has the controversy surrounding the methods used to farm palm oil. Plantation companies in Indonesia and Malaysia _ which together produce 87 percent of all palm oil _ have come under fire for leading to deforestation that contributes to the demise of animals like orangutans and Sumatran elephants.

Indonesia, where already 15.1 million acres are covered by plantations, has aggressive expansion plans.

Frances Seymour, director general of the Center for International Forestry Research in Indonesia which also took part in the study, said the new data should help make the case that forest have to be part of the solution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

"Ultimately, our goal is to help fashion an agreement that will allow tropical forests to become a part of a more comprehensive climate agreement _ one that will reduce emissions, as well as produce co-benefits," she said in a statement.

Other groups that took part in the study included The Nature Conservancy, the Great Ape Trust and the Consultative Group on International Agriculture Research.

BANGKOK — Selling credits for the billions of tons of carbon that are locked in Indonesia's tropical rain forests could be as profitable as converting these areas into palm oil plantations, a st...
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America that extra $400 bucks is going to NGO on goverment welfare to pay Indonesian men to be unproductive and sit on his butt. Globalization, UN government oooh this is sooo exciting.
By the way bring home the Americans in Iraq already!!!! No Americans fighting in Iraq for security should go to Iraq jail. Bring home our troops now !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 06/07/2009

$400 extra a year on your electric bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 06/07/2009
- phreddy111 I'm a Fan of phreddy111 2 fans permalink

there's no shortage of people in this world pushing their agenda and they will tell you this reason or that reason why they are right and why you should listen to them - I find the proof is almost always in what people do, not what they say. If carbon trading is accessible and profitable, I guarantee you it will become very, very popular. Money is a magnetic for bringing together diverse causes. This is America - if there is money to be made, people (lots of people) will come. If it is snake oil, then it will remain on the fringe and only be talked about by like-minded environmentalists. The good part is we will get to see if this article is right or not. If in a couple of years, we are still reading about the wonderous potential of carbon trading, I would put it in the snake oil column - however, in that same time span, if carbon trading takes off and fortunes are being made on this new frontier, then I guess the article is correct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 06/07/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

The TRUTH has been revealed!!!!!

NASA says:
"The inconvertible fact, here is that even NASA's own study acknowledges that SOLAR VARIATION HAS CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE in the past. And even the study's members, mostly ardent supports of AGW theory, acknowledge that the SUN may play a significant role in future climate changes."

Isnt this what conservatives have been saying ALL ALONG!!!


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/nasas_latest_discovery_sun_hea.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 06/05/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

"Removing long-term solar cycles from the input to climate models takes away about a tenth of a degree [Celsius] of early 20th century warming," says Tom Wigley, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, Colo. "This suggests that other influences on past climate changes may play a greater role than the solar one.""

"The 11-year sunspot cycle is not questioned in the Science paper, but its effect alone is "probably too little for a practical influence on climate," the authors write. They also briefly consider possible influences of ultraviolet and cosmic ray fluxes in Earth's climate."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041001092000.htm


"Before the Industrial Age, the sun and volcanic eruptions were the major influences on Earth's climate change. Earth warmed and cooled in cycles. Major cool periods were ice ages, with the most recent ending about 11,000 years ago."

"Unless we find a way to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases we put into the atmosphere, such as carbon dioxide from fossil fuel burning, the solar influence is not expected to dominate climate change. But the solar variations are expected to continue to modulate both warming and cooling trends at the level of 0.1 to 0.2 degrees Celsius (0.18 to 0.26 Fahrenheit) over many years."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080512120523.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 06/05/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

Heres what you seem to be missing. NASA has for YEARS said that climate change is going to destroy us ALL!!!. Now here we have NASA telling us that Sun has had an effect on climate change. The OBVIOUS point that you seem to be missing is that the science is NOT settled. Its just another dare i say fear tatic so that you will give the govt MORE of your money. There is nothing wrong with being climate conscience ie recycle, throw away your trash not on the ground, etc. But the GOVT should NOT be taxing the American people for a HIGHLY disputed issue such as this.
BTW I have about as many science links from ACTUAL scientists as you do. Heres one now.
http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=277&Itemid=1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 06/05/2009

Orangutans are critically endangered in the wild because of rapid deforestation and the expansion of palm oil plantations. If nothing is done to protect them, these gentle creatures could be extinct in just a few years...

Visit the Orangutan Outreach website to learn how YOU can make a difference! http://redapes.org

Reach out and save the orangutans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 06/05/2009
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Carbon Credits PROFITABLE?

You mean all this talk about Climate Change has been driven by profit motivation and GREED?

I'm Shocked!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 06/05/2009
- Truelee I'm a Fan of Truelee 11 fans permalink

Tradiing carbon credits is stupid. It will increase pollution in pockets of places around the world making it harder for certain groups of people who can't afford to live in cleaner parts to suffer. Our air should not be traded. It is not a commodity!! The animals, plants, forest and indigenous people are not going to be safe as people move away from heavily polluted areas to less polluted areas, especially with billionaires owning these green places now.

WE NEED GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND NO OR LITTLE POLLUTION BY ALL COMPANIES NO T CARBON TRADING!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/05/2009

Not sure, but I think it's worth a try. Certainly better than what we have now...
More carbon offset info with explanatory vids: http://www.dasolar.com/alternative-energy/carbon-offsets

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 06/05/2009
- Roxie74 I'm a Fan of Roxie74 8 fans permalink

Biggest sham ever perpetrated on humanity; design to line the pockets of the elite banking families and keep developing nations from ever competing. Gore's ambitions are definitely green alright...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 06/05/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 203 fans permalink
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Yes, clean air and clean water will end all life on earth! You just watch, you darned Libr00lz!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 06/05/2009
- conserv47 I'm a Fan of conserv47 6 fans permalink

Carbon credit trading has NOTHING to do with clean water and clean air. STOP drinking the Kool-Aid and try a little reading.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 06/05/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 76 fans permalink
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not the biggest (think: iraq) but definitely a new industry founded on fear.

say, here in upstate jersey i'm thinkin' of turning the furnace back on..

and it's june!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 06/05/2009

And here I thought the biggest sham ever perpetrated on humanity was those weapons in Iraq...som­ebody definitely got rich on that one...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 06/05/2009
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Yep, this is a far better solution. Just leave the forrests and save the habitat of animals, specially Orangutans. Deforestation must be stopped. See the movies on this page.

http://www.stichtingmilieunet.nl/andersbekekenblog/?p=261

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 06/05/2009
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