Tennessee Lawmakers Allow Guns In Bars

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LUCAS L. JOHNSON II | June 5, 2009 07:34 AM EST | AP

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Handguns will soon be allowed in bars and restaurants in Tennessee under a new law passed by state legislators who voted to override the governor's veto.

The legislation that takes effect July 14 retains an existing ban on consuming alcohol while carrying a handgun, and restaurant owners can still opt to ban weapons from their establishments.

Thirty-seven other states have similar laws.

The state Senate voted 21-9 on Thursday against Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen's veto, a day after the House also voted 69-27 to override.

They overrode critics, including Bredesen, who said it's a bad idea to have guns and alcohol in close proximity.

Democratic Sen. Doug Jackson, the main sponsor of the bill, said state Safety Department records show handgun permit holders in Tennessee are responsible.

Of the roughly 218,000 handgun permit holders in Tennessee, 278 had their permits revoked last year, records show. Since 2005, state records shows nearly 1,200 people have lost their permits.

Revocations are issued for felony convictions, while permits can be suspended for pending criminal charges or for court orders of protection.

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Sen. Andy Berke, D-Chattanooga, was the only senator to speak against overriding the veto Thursday.

"I believe that we should follow the governor and rethink what we have done," he said.

The law, which was supported by the National Rifle Association, has been successful in other states, its chief lobbyist said.

"Of those 37 states, not one state has attempted to repeal or amend those statutes because they've been successful," Chris Cox said.

Bredesen spokeswoman Lydia Lenker said after Wednesday's House vote that the Democratic governor expected an override when he vetoed the legislation last week.

Following Thursday's Senate vote, Bredesen, who is a gun owner and hunter, reiterated his stance to reporters.

"I still think I'm right," he said. "I still think that guns in bars is a very bad idea. It's an invitation to a disaster."

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Read HB0962 at: http://www.capitol.tn.gov

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Handguns will soon be allowed in bars and restaurants in Tennessee under a new law passed by state legislators who voted to override the governor's veto. The legislation that...
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Handguns will soon be allowed in bars and restaurants in Tennessee under a new law passed by state legislators who voted to override the governor's veto. The legislation that...
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- MelDel7365 I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 19 fans permalink

Yeah, this is going to end well...boo­ze and guns because fights never break out in bars and people are always very reasonable in these establishm­ents...GRE­AT idea... Kind of ironic that the state where to Scopes trial took place is providing proof of Darwin's theories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 06/05/2009
- dems08 I'm a Fan of dems08 179 fans permalink
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Tennesseans have figured out a way to do away with bar room brawls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/05/2009
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"Tennesseans have figured out a way to do away with bar room brawls."

Yes, and turn them into barroom slaughters instead...­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 06/05/2009

Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 06/05/2009
- KPinSEA I'm a Fan of KPinSEA 11 fans permalink

Can't wait for the public service ads: "Sure you've picked your designated driver, but have you picked the designated shooter?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/05/2009
- lesterbud I'm a Fan of lesterbud 90 fans permalink
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Sounds like another brilliant Rushpublicant idea.

Provide people with the means to immediately and violently resolve issues (gun in pocket).
Place these people in an environment in which the impediments to using such deadly force is chemically removed.

Does the law state that shooting gays, negroes and atheists is OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/05/2009
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Because there's no better combination than deadly force and drunks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/05/2009
- OKnight I'm a Fan of OKnight 56 fans permalink
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local mortuary hiring...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 06/05/2009
- dems08 I'm a Fan of dems08 179 fans permalink
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GUNS + ALCOHOL

what could possibly go wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/05/2009

Not that I agree with this... but this is for restaurants, not just bars. Reading is fundamental.

BTW... you would be surprised of how many little old ladies are packing heat in their purse... in NY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/05/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 127 fans permalink
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It still doesn't make it right.
Last thing I would want is someone packing heat at a local TGIF that my family goes to. A b a d situation.

Little old ladies packing heat? Sounds like fear has quite a strong hold on little white haired old ladies. WHITE being the operative word. Just sayin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 06/05/2009
- dsmyre I'm a Fan of dsmyre 10 fans permalink

Old ladies with a piece in their purse? Madea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 06/05/2009
- DSOTM I'm a Fan of DSOTM 83 fans permalink
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I can't wait for the first shoot out caught on video.

Way to go Tennessee, you reap what you sew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 06/05/2009
- oldcliche I'm a Fan of oldcliche 16 fans permalink

That left me in stitches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 06/05/2009

Could have left you with holes....(­bullet)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 06/05/2009
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 140 fans permalink

Hiccup!

BANG!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 06/05/2009
- dsmyre I'm a Fan of dsmyre 10 fans permalink

Yes, we can safely predict an increase in foot, leg and groin shootings in Tennessee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 06/05/2009
- lesterbud I'm a Fan of lesterbud 90 fans permalink
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I like this idea and I think we should encourage Kansas, Alaska, the Carolinas and several other states to adopt this law.

In just a few years all these states will turn solidly Democratic due to the accelerated attrition rate among drunken, red-neck, gun-toting, fearful Rushpublicants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 06/05/2009

Bama boy here...I couldn't agree with you more. There are many good people here but we are constantly being out voiced by the loud mouth republican/southern baptists. Believe me. I love the idea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 06/05/2009
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I can relate--I lived in that state most of my life. My sister & her husband, who live in down south in Washington county, elected to attend a different church after letting it be known that they voted for Obama. They'd been attending that southern baptist church for two decades, yet they still got so much grief from their fellow southern baptists that they felt it wasn't worthwhile to continue there.

I don't know if you're familiar with that part of the state, but Washington county as a whole is considered by most as a pretty wild, backwoods area, so I can just imagine that most of the people I know there would fully support any legislation that extends gun rights [although they are so removed from any significant metropolis that they carry guns anywhere they want anyway].

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 06/05/2009
- coot08 I'm a Fan of coot08 2 fans permalink

you can bring your gun to church in kentucky and now you can bring one to a bar in tennessee.­...keep it classy ya'll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 06/05/2009
- trimom I'm a Fan of trimom 2 fans permalink

It's one way to cull the heard, I guess...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 06/05/2009
- metalpipe I'm a Fan of metalpipe 10 fans permalink
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Yeah, am I reading this right? Guns are allowed in bars, but you can't consume alcohol while carrying a firearm. I have this feeling of vertigo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 06/05/2009
- M4dwoman I'm a Fan of M4dwoman 20 fans permalink
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Wow! Mix a depressant like alcohol, country music (enough to drive anyone to mayhem), FIX news on the box, unemployment, and guns. What a brilliant concept. And it's working in other states? What do they mean by working? Good way to support Darwin's theory of evolution through natural selection, though. Little did these bible-thumping NRA zombies realize that they'd be supporting godless secular science.
And here's another thought - when those drunk, gun-toting patrons get pulled over for DUI, who's going to protect the law officer from an armed and drunk belligerent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 06/05/2009
- knosiswar I'm a Fan of knosiswar 31 fans permalink

Good Point. I bet if you went and asked the law inforcement officers what they thought about this, the Governor would have pie on his face.

But I agree with the Darwinism point, we certainly need to cull the heard of ingorance in Tennessee.

Maybe this is another way they hope to increase the prison population. It makes me wonder how much the NRA supporters have invested in Prison Services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 06/05/2009
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