Voters To Congress: What's Wrong With Single-Payer Health Care?

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First Posted: 06- 5-09 04:40 PM   |   Updated: 07- 6-09 05:12 AM

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Give voters a voice in the debate over health care reform and they ask about the one thing most lawmakers decided from the start would not be considered: "Why not a single-payer program?"

That was by far the most popular question posed to members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus Thursday night, when they took questions on the House floor that had been submitted and voted for online -- something of a first for Congress.

The question-and-answer hour was expected to focus on public health care options as part of a health care landscape that would still be dominated by private insurance companies. But online voters, who cast almost 30,000 votes at progressivecaucus.org between Tuesday night and Thursday, hijacked the session, demanding to know why a single-payer program is not being considered.

Though only five of more than 750 questions were chosen to be asked at the event, some proved far more popular than others. The top questions included how much influence the insurance companies have had on the reform debate and why the public can't have a level of health care comparable to that of the assembled congressmen.

"What is it going to take for you to WAKE UP and smell the catastrophe that for-profit healthcare is?" read the fifth most popular question, the last on the list asked of the caucus members.

The novelty of the forum created a sense of actual dialogue between the legislators and their constituents, said Darcy Burner, the executive director of the nonprofit Progressive Caucus Policy Foundation, which advises the caucus and organized the discussion.

"Part of what we're trying to do is help build relationships between members of Congress and the grassroots such that there is more mutual trust than exists right now, so it didn't surprise me at all that the questions were somewhat adversarial," she said.

The legislators overwhelmingly support a single-payer program, Burner said, but don't consider it feasible. At this point, they're pulling for "a robust public plan that will provide real competition," she said.

The Progressive Caucus includes some 71 House Democrats, but only four made it to Thursday night's session: Caucus co-chair Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) and Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), who moderated the forum.

"For decades, Americans' calls for health care reform have fallen on deaf ears in Congress," Ellison said during the meeting. As for Ellison's missing colleagues, Burner blamed delays that kept them from starting before 9 p.m., but she lauded the participation of the four who attended. Both the foundation and the caucus will continue to press for greater interaction with the public, she said.

"It's the people's House. It'd be nice if the people had more input," Burner said. "The more people who are participating, I think, the more valuable the dialogue's going to be."

Give voters a voice in the debate over health care reform and they ask about the one thing most lawmakers decided from the start would not be considered: "Why not a single-payer program?" That was by...
Give voters a voice in the debate over health care reform and they ask about the one thing most lawmakers decided from the start would not be considered: "Why not a single-payer program?" That was by...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 06/10/2009

There needs to be a special election for this. Let the people vote on single payer health care!
Our bought and paid for legislatures wont do it. It is time we take back control of this matter.
They have already said that grass roots petitions wont change thier minds.
A vote of the people will force them to change thier tune.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 06/08/2009

Over this past weekend, I attended two Organizing for America meetings on health care reform. In both groups of 21 attendees each, 100% want a single payer system. We all agreed that health care is a right, not a privilege. We all agreed that paying 3% of each health care dollar in administrative costs (Medicare for All), makes more sense than paying over 30% (for-profit, unnecessary insurance companies). We all understood that insurance company profits depend on denying coverage to their policy holders. We all agreed that our elected "representatives" know very well that a single payer system is better for we the people, but their pockets are bulging with money from their big pharma and profit/greed-driven masters. That's why Max Baucus doesn't want single payer on the table. He knows that he's forced to have an intellectually honest debate, single payer would win hands down.

We must make our voices loud and clear and relentless for the next several weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 06/08/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 16 fans permalink
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Private insurance companies have had a very long time to get things right, but alas, they have proven that they just can't figure it out. I guess they like their $30 million salaries too much. They just can't resist the big money. Poor boys.

But go figure, ...every other first-world country has figured it out: make health care public.
But they offer:

No $30 million salaries,
No $Billion advertising,
No $Billion drug ads,
No $Billion campaign donations,
No $Billion kickbacks

Gee, I think We The People can figure it out all by ourselves.
It's time to give the People a chance to run health care.
NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 06/08/2009
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Dr. Kirsch at MD Whistle Blower . com has a lot to say about Obama Care and the Kennedy proposal.
He thinks the politicians are dreaming.

http://mdwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2009/06/kennedy-health-care-proposal-in-your.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 06/08/2009
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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Sounds like the head of an HMO to me. Raise taxes on everyone and get it done. I am afraid to go to the doctor because if I have something, I would not be able to afford treatment, not to mention the cost of referrals. It's way past time to make health care affordable for everyone. Why is it that we are the only industrial nation without healthcare for all? Take the best of all plans world wide and make it work. That hogwash about the government (that's us, people) picking your doctor is just that. Hogwash. Why is it fine for the insurance companies to pick peoples doctors? Put them all out of the healthcare business. Make hospitals non-profit. I am sick of seeing hospitals advertised on billboards like McDonalds. This has got to change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 06/08/2009
- Jane48 I'm a Fan of Jane48 16 fans permalink
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Be afraid. Be Very Afraid. Dr. Kirsch is trying to scare everyone. He conveniently neglects how Massachusetts got into the current disaster of having to offer health care thru ONLY private insurance companies.

I wonder why Kirsch didn't mention that what happened in Massachusetts was that while the State Legislature put together an enlarged Medicare plan for all; George W. Bush rushed in and threatened the State: "No Way, and I'll cancel all your Medicare if you do that." That's when then Republican Bush & Republican Gov Romney announced that all health care would be private. Quite a coup for the old white boys, Romney & Bush, eh? Massachusetts was screwed by Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 06/08/2009
- livesimply I'm a Fan of livesimply 27 fans permalink
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The only interest insurance companies have at all is money; plain and simple. The insurance companies have no interest in the health of their "clients." They are the "middle man," scraping off big profits between the providers and the clients and providing no real service. It is time for our politicians to quit taking their lobbying money and provide the people with health care, not way over-priced insurance with our tax dollars. Most of us are willing to pay more in taxes and less to insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 06/08/2009
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 86 fans permalink

Our taxes also go to RESEARCH at American universities, pharmas and teaching medical schools - that are only benefitting a tiny elite...or FREE to Nations who have universal healthcare.

Americans, thanks to our Congress and the lobbying cartel who subsidizes them - are being taken for a major ride in ALL directions.

ENOUGH. Please make calls/send emails. Wall Street got theirs in a weekend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 06/08/2009
- alice09 I'm a Fan of alice09 23 fans permalink

The same people who say they are against it would be outraged if their parents and grandparents Medicare was taken away.
Health care companies are out to get every dollar they can. They've inserted themselves into the practive of medicine in a destructive way and they've been responsible for great suffering.
Why should health care companies be given a respectful seat at the table?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 06/07/2009
- renatam I'm a Fan of renatam 86 fans permalink

The same people who are against it were against Medicare during the Johnson Administration. I don't know WHY anyone is (again) listening to this irrational discussion - while finding the money for a massive giveaway of TRILLIONS to Wall Street for which we get NADA.

Can we be this stupid???

Call/email/write your Representatives NOW, America! Wall Street got theirs over a weekend for goodness sake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 06/08/2009

Their own numbers show them that the #1 cause of bankruptcy in our country is health care costs. What more evidence do they need.
I do some work on the side for a health care provider. I asked the office manager what she thought about single-payer in regards to her office. She told me that if the payments were at the level that they thought they could make money they would accept it. If not they would refuse patients. That made me realize that it is not just the insurance companies that are the problem. The cost of maintaining a office and the inherent costs thereof also come in to play. The malpractice insurance alone can get pretty expensive.

I am all for single-payer. I believe it is the only way the majority of Americans will be covered. I also believe it is in the best interests of business to help find a way. It will relieve them of one of the biggest burdens business has. I also understand it is complicated and it will not be easy. That is no reason to not get it done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/07/2009

Let's lay the heat on them NOW. Newt and Lindbaugh can't carry the day on this and we all know health care lobbyists own this congress. We need to burn them at meetings and flood them with comments. I want to know who they are and then let's march.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 06/07/2009
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the insurance companies are killing people because they are allowed to reject claims when they wish. its disgusting.

the right wing only thinks of profits for the insurance companies.

single payer healthcare just like most of the rest of the world.

no compromise or we will continue to suffer their effects (insurance companies)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 06/07/2009

Your congress is
Owned...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 06/07/2009

A robust public plan that will provide real competition. Yeah, right, like the Part D plan that puts patients into a donut hole, competitors pretty much price fixing and there aren't that many left because the competition has been dropping out. Great model.
I want a single payer health care system after seeing that fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/07/2009
- NHGranite I'm a Fan of NHGranite 55 fans permalink
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Single Payer Non-Profit health care for all.

Thank you.

Signed,

Kidney patient waiting for a cure when dialysis and transplant are so lucrative

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/07/2009
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"Voters To Congress: What's Wrong With Single-Payer Health Care?"


Congress To Voters: The Private Health Insurance Industry Which Funds Our Campaigns And Makes A Profit By Denying People Healthcare Won't Allow It"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 06/07/2009
- iridium53 I'm a Fan of iridium53 56 fans permalink

yup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 06/07/2009
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