Obama Admin May Permit 9/11 Suspects To Plead Guilty In Capital Cases

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LARA JAKES | 06/ 6/09 10:27 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Guantanamo detainees facing the death penalty could plead guilty without a full trial under a plan the Obama administration is considering, a senior administration official said Saturday.

The option, one of a number being debated by a Justice Department-led task force, would be aimed at the five detainees accused of planning the Sept. 11 attacks, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the task force's deliberations have not been made public.

It was unclear whether the option, first reported by The New York Times, was being considered for detainees other than those accused directly in the 2001 terrorist strikes.

The task force has not presented any recommendation to the White House on how to handle the remaining detainees at Guantanamo, the official said.

The five detainees wrote a letter on Nov. 4 _ the day Barack Obama was elected president _ saying they wanted to confess, presumably to plead guilty and face the death penalty. At least two, including the self-described mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, have said they want to be executed to achieve martyrdom.

But the formal confessions were delayed when a judge ruled that two defendants couldn't enter pleas until the court determined their mental competency. The other three said they would also wait.

The judge, Army Col. Stephen Henley, asked lawyers to advise him whether the Pentagon could apply the death penalty without a jury trial.

As one of his first acts after taking office, Obama ordered Guantanamo closed by January 2010. He said it had caused the United States more harm than good and served as a recruitment tool for the al-Qaida terrorist network. The Justice Department-led task force is one of several trying to determine the best way to handle the remaining 200 or so detainees at Guantanamo.

U.S. military commissions set up by the Bush administration to handle suspected terrorists have come under heavy criticism from legal and human rights groups. U.S. military prosecutions employing this structure and legal rules have for the most part been put on hold since January while the Obama administration considered other options.

Obama recently approved the continued use of these commissions.

The option under review by the task force specifies that Congress would have to clarify the uncertainty that was built into the 2006 law authorizing the creation of the military commissions. That law left unclear the question of whether guilty pleas could be accepted in capital cases conducted via the military commission format.

These pleas under U.S. law are allowed in federal civilian courts and in the courts of most states with capital punishment statutes.

Traveling in France with Obama, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the president "has been clear that he hopes to work with Republicans and Democrats in Congress to improve the military commissions act to ensure that we can ensure more due process and deliver what has been long in coming: swift and certain justice. To suggest that any of the decisions have been made is not accurate."

WASHINGTON — Guantanamo detainees facing the death penalty could plead guilty without a full trial under a plan the Obama administration is considering, a senior administration official said Sat...
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- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 24 fans permalink
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but, what if they're not guilty?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 06/06/2009
- shades3 I'm a Fan of shades3 33 fans permalink

THANK YOU, LeftLeaner. Either the United States has The Rule Of Law, or they don't.
Many of those who have been detained for years and years are NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING.
They have been locked up, tortured, humiliated and told that they are nothing for years and years.
Now, they are being given the opportunity to plead guilty at an imitation trial.
And to what end? Will they, considering that they were more than likely tortured, be allowed to have legal representation and to face their accusors???
You would expect at least that if you were accused of domestic terrorism, wouldn't you??
The United States has been painted into a corner by the Bush Administration, with most, if not all of the possible evidence against anyone tainted because of their "method" of extracting it by indiscrimanite and downright sadistic, pointless torture.
In the world we live in, the civilized world, any information gotten through torture is inadmissable as evidence.
I guess we're now living in some demented parallel universe, thanks to the eight years of lawlessness that epitomized the Bush Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 06/06/2009
- oregonbird I'm a Fan of oregonbird 67 fans permalink
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How can you possibly believe that a child whose voice hasn't broken yet, kidnapped during an area sweep and imprisoned for seven years and treated like a criminal, isn't guilty of...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 06/06/2009
- Ted LPD I'm a Fan of Ted LPD 24 fans permalink
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Good idea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 06/06/2009
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 122 fans permalink
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Let them plead guilty, be sentenced to death, and then have Obama commute the death sentence to life in prison.

Killing the terrorists just brings us down to their level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 06/06/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 117 fans permalink
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If I had been subjected to what they have been subjected to...I would have the mind of a child and no court in the world would let me make that decision for myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 06/06/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/littleboys.html

That is a link for a story about what our government does to us in the name of mind control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 06/06/2009
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Yes exactly. I am amazed that people continue to not understand this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 06/06/2009
- proudcalib I'm a Fan of proudcalib 3 fans permalink

Much to our disappointment, Obama is going to punt on this. Just get it over with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 AM on 06/06/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Get over it?

What if this happened to you?

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/littleboys.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 06/06/2009

This would nail down the lid on the cover-up just as surely as Jack Ruby walking down the ramp and into the basement of the Dallas police station to shoot the patsy, Oswald, while two Dallas' finest held his arms. Had I been waterboarded 183 times in 30 days, I believe I'd prefer to go out leaving them thinking I was a terrorist mastermind and a martyr, rather than a broken human being; I believe I'd feel it was the only thing I could do to get back at my torturers. The absence of a real trial that proves a case against these men not only gets the government out the bind it got itself into by producing "confessions" through torture, it will ensure that we will perhaps never know the truth about 9/11. The idea of America walking into the future, not just ignorant of the truth, but actively believing a lie, is an ill omen indeed and will produce nothing good. Forgetting your history is a bad thing; never being allowed to know it in the first place is plain dangerous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 06/06/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 117 fans permalink
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Morning LTG,
Have a cigar!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 06/06/2009
- samlu1 I'm a Fan of samlu1 2 fans permalink

Of course we know the truth about 9/11......­...there were no commercial planes. It was all a lie. So far.....cl­ose personal friends of the Bush family have now profited over $200,000,000,000+ billion dollars because of 9/11 and increased military spending. How much did Osama get again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 06/06/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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He got the presidency, and with our present state of affairs, that is a four year term at king.

Check this out for more background on the office,

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/littleboys.html

And by posting it three times, I have just performed a magic ceremony. Thank you for helping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 06/06/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 88 fans permalink

Well, the 9/11 commission never gave in their report an accounting of how WTC7 came down until fairly recently when they Very Quietly (with _no_ MSM reporting) admitted that it was demolished intentionally.

This raises far more questions than it answers and Directly Implicates our own government­...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 06/06/2009
- samlu1 I'm a Fan of samlu1 2 fans permalink

There were no commercial planes on 9/11. Just the WMD's in Iraq...it was all a lie with the participation of your government, military, and military-c­orporation owned media. No commercial planes means no jet fuel. No jet fuel means a controlled demolition. To this day not one single witness or test confirms any jet fuel at any of the 4 locations from any of the 4 planes from 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 06/07/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 163 fans permalink
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How about that...

The only thing is those such as KSM want to be martyrs and so executing him or others will only raise them up in the eyes of other terrorists and sympathize­rs...

Also this is due to the fact that we cannot try KSM and others due to the torture Cheney and Bush ordered destroyed these important cases and almost any court even a Tribunal would very likely throw the cases out...due to their being tortured..­.thanks to Cheney and Bush...

You see once you leave the confines of the Constitution everything falls apart...if only the President and our Attorney General knew that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 06/06/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 117 fans permalink
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Fav'd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 06/06/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 163 fans permalink
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Thanks...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 06/06/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 88 fans permalink

Do you mean our PRESENT Pres and AG, or the immediately preceding ones?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/06/2009
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Ugh, these are people waterboarded hundreds of times by Bush's inquisitor­s... yeah, they confessed to plotting 9/11, along with dozens of other real and imagined plots. Their psyches are probably so damaged they may even believe they were responsible now, and our federal government is going to generously allow them to "plead guilty" and spend the rest of their lives in prison, without any recourse to psychological help or court appeal. And America gets to be spared the spectacle of any semblance of a fair trial where these issues could be brought up... disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 06/06/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 70 fans permalink

Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 06/06/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 117 fans permalink
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Yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 06/06/2009
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What fair trial are they going to get now? The only other option would be to let them go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 06/06/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 70 fans permalink

Another way to avoid a true investigation of the events on 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 06/06/2009
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Another way to allow the detainees to decide if they want a full trial. This is a right given to every American defendant. Allowing them to plead guilty (ALLOWING) will bring the military commissions in line with US laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 06/06/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 220 fans permalink
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As long as that allows them to also plead NOT GUILTY....

But allowing the 9/11 5 to achieve their martyrdom is a bad idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 06/06/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 70 fans permalink

I'm sure I'd want to rush right to the gallows instead of a trial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 06/06/2009
- TheBaffler I'm a Fan of TheBaffler 53 fans permalink
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Hmm, plead guilty or be judged guilty by a kangaroo court. What a choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 06/06/2009
- D-V-H I'm a Fan of D-V-H 397 fans permalink
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This is not what we should be doing. Even if these guys are guilty of masterminding the 9/11 attacks, wouldn't it be playing into the terrorists' hands to put them to death?

I say let them rot in prison for the rest of their lives, always wondering and fearing when some other prisoner will do unto them. It would be quite ironic for them to live their lives living in the same fear they have caused for so many.

If they are put to death, it would only cause them to be martyrs of their cause and to be a rallying point for future attacks. Look at the guys we have in prison now for the 93 WTC bombing. They are not able to communicate with their fellow jihadists and also aren't a source of propaganda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/06/2009
- Jaywalkker I'm a Fan of Jaywalkker 51 fans permalink
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Even though the death penalty is the only thing befitting the capital crime committed, that's my thought too D-V-H. Seeing as how everyone interviewed is saying that "this is what they want" and that they welcome their martyrdom, I'd REALLY like to see Khalid Shaikh Mohammed doing community service at an all women's university, preferably changing out the trash bags in the tampon/sanitary napkin receptacles in the bathroom's at least for a little while.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 06/06/2009
- CigarGod I'm a Fan of CigarGod 117 fans permalink
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After years of torture and abuse, you don't think they live in fear already?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 06/06/2009
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k

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 06/06/2009
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good - movement

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 06/06/2009
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