Laura Ling, Euna Lee, US Journalists, Sentenced To 12 Years In North Korea

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WILLIAM FOREMAN and MATTHEW LEE | June 8, 2009 11:45 PM EST | AP

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A South Korean man watches a TV broadcasting news about two American journalists detained in North Korea at the Seoul Railway Station, in South Korea, Monday, June 8, 2009. North Korea's top court convicted the journalists and sentenced them to 12 years in a prison Monday, intensifying the reclusive nation's confrontation with the United States. The headline reads "North Korea convicted two American journalists and sentenced them to 12 years in a prison." (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

SEOUL, South Korea — The sentencing of two American journalists to 12 years' hard labor in North Korea sets the stage for possible negotiations with the reclusive nation for their release _ perhaps involving an envoy from the United States.

A joint statement by the family of the two reporters _ Laura Ling and Euna Lee _ expressed the hope that the governments of the United States and North Korea "can come to an agreement that will result in (their) release."

"We ask the government of North Korea to show compassion and grant Laura and Euna clemency," said the statement released Monday by the family's spokeswoman, Alanna Zahn.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who helped win the release of Americans from North Korea in the 1990s, said he was "ready to do anything" the Obama administration asked. Another possible negotiator, if the U.S. government approved, is former Vice President Al Gore, who founded the TV venture that both reporters work for.

A senior Obama administration official said Richardson and Gore had been in contact with the White House and State Department about potential next steps, including possibly sending an envoy to try to negotiate the release of Lee, 36, and Ling, 32, both of whom work for Gore's Current TV.

But the official stressed that no decisions had been made on how to proceed and said neither Gore nor Richardson had been asked to go. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the diplomatic sensitivity of the situation.

Asked Monday if Washington will send an envoy to the North, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Obama administration is "pursuing every possible approach that we can consider in order to persuade the North Koreans to release them and send these young women home."

She stressed that the reporters' case and Washington's efforts to punish North Korea for its recent nuclear test are "entirely separate matters."

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"We think the imprisonment, trial and sentencing of Laura and Euna should be viewed as a humanitarian matter," Clinton said. "We hope that the North Koreans will grant clemency and deport them."

The isolated North is probably less interested in having the women sent to its gulag, where poorly fed inmates often do backbreaking work in factories, coal mines and rice paddies.

Instead, Pyongyang will likely try to use them as bargaining chips in an increasingly tense standoff with the U.S. over the North's recent nuclear and missile tests.

President Barack Obama "is deeply concerned by the reported sentencing of the two American citizen journalists by North Korean authorities, and we are engaged through all possible channels to secure their release," said deputy White House spokesman William Burton.

Richardson, who also traveled to North Korea in 2007 to bring back the remains of Americans killed in the Korean War, said the journalists were part of a "high-stakes poker game" North Korea is playing. Now that the legal process has been completed, he said he thinks talks for their release can begin, with some kind of a political pardon as a goal.

"In previous instances where I was involved in negotiating, you could not get this started until the legal process had ended," he said on NBC's "Today" show.

He said the sentence was harsher than expected but added that the fact that espionage was not mentioned was a good sign.

He said North Korea so far has not, at least publicly, tried to tie this incident to differences with Washington over its nuclear program and the recent series of missile tests that it has conducted. He also said he has not seen particularly bellicose rhetoric from Pyongyang on the issue of the two women.

For several days, rumors have been swirling that Gore would fly to North Korea to negotiate the reporters' release. But Gore has not commented on a possible trip and has stayed silent about the case in general.

Victor Cha, who served as a senior Asia adviser on former President George W. Bush's National Security Council, said a high-level envoy, such as Gore, should be sent to negotiate the release of the Americans.

"North Koreans care a great deal about public face, and sending someone of Gore's stature would be an eminently credible humanitarian mission," he said.

North Korea wants to be treated like a legitimate nuclear state and hopes to draw Washington into direct negotiations about normalizing relations. Washington has refused to endorse such a status for an unpredictable nation with a history of terrorism, ripping up agreements and sharing its nuclear know-how with nations hostile to America.

Pyongyang is believed to be preparing another long-range missile test at a new launchpad. On Monday, North Korea warned fishing boats to stay away from the east coast, Japan's coast guard said, feeding concerns that more missile tests are being planned.

The U.N. has also been debating a new resolution to punish the North for its second nuclear test May 25. Pyongyang followed the test with a barrage of missile launches.

The case gives the two sides an excuse to talk, with the U.S. possibly sending a special envoy, said Kim Yong-hyun, a professor at Seoul's Dongguk University.

"I think the North is going to try to use the reporters to facilitate relations with the U.S.," said Kim, adding that he didn't think the women would be mistreated and would even be kept separate from North Korean inmates.

"The sentence doesn't mean much because the issue will be resolved diplomatically in the end," Kim said.

The journalists were arrested March 17 near the China-North Korea border, and it's unclear whether they tried to sneak into the North or if aggressive border guards crossed into Chinese territory and grabbed them, as has happened before. A cameraman and their local guide escaped.

Ling and Lee were reporting about the trafficking of women at the time of their arrest.

Their family's statement said "if they wandered across the border without permission, we apologize on their behalf."

It also expressed concern about the women's health, noting that Ling has a serious medical condition, a reference to her ulcer, while Lee's 4-year-old daughter is showing "signs of anguish over the absence of her mother."

The North accused the reporters of unspecified "hostile acts" and illegally entering the country, but the formal charges against them were unclear. Their trial began Thursday and foreigners weren't allowed to observe the proceedings.

The North's official news agency said Monday the women committed a "grave crime" and would be sentenced to 12 years of "reform through labor."

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Foreman reported from Seoul, Lee from Washington. Associated Press writers Jae-soon Chang, Hyung-jin Kim and Vijay Joshi in Seoul, Shino Yuasa in Tokyo, Carley Petesch in New York and Judy Lin in Carmichael, California, contributed to this report.

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going to a communist country to report on human rights abuse is like going to the Hell to report on the weather and inadvertently burning to death.

These reporters got too close to the edge and fell in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 06/08/2009

they were reporting on sex trafficking

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 06/08/2009
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Good try-- reporting on sex trafficking in a river. These women look dumber and dumber the more that information is released by the press.

The women were caught in the middle of the frozen Tumen River, where the border between the two countries is not clearly marked, a senior administration official said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/21/n.korea.us.journalists/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 06/08/2009

they were reporting on s3x trafficking

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 06/08/2009
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Good try-- reporting on sex trafficking in a river. These women look dumber and dumber the more that information is released by the press.

According to CNN, which I find more reliable a source that CurrentTV or any of their hack paparazzi style sensationalistic reporters. "The women were caught in the middle of the frozen Tumen River, where the border between the two countries is not clearly marked, a senior administration official said."

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/21/n.korea.us.journalists/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 06/08/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

Too bad their names weren't Aig and Citi - they would have been bailed out a long time ago

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 06/08/2009
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With the comments previously submitted (both intelligent and otherwise), I'm not sure I can add much in the way of sentiments. I would, however, be interested in seeing a photograph of the location in question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 06/08/2009
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 06/08/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 340 fans permalink
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Oh, what a lovely country! I must go visit! No photos of the slave labor camps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 06/08/2009
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I wonder if these 2 liberals will continue to report how wonderful N Korea is once they are freed, along with Cuba and Iran..let's hope not

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 06/08/2009
- LKV I'm a Fan of LKV 41 fans permalink

What!!!??? You really first off need to learn the facts and second just go away because you have nothing of value to say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 06/08/2009

Your motion has been seconded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/08/2009
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 572 fans permalink
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Can I see the links where they reported how wonderful N. Korea is, as well as Cuba and Iran? Because I don't recall ever reading that they had. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 06/08/2009
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 572 fans permalink
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Sorry - should have said, "would you provide" not "can I see"

thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/08/2009

You are not very smart Dark Sphere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 06/08/2009
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OK, I really pity their family members, especially their little children. It must have been hard on them. It would be hard on me, too. However, American journalists need to put deeper consideration into their jobs, especially when working abroad. Laws and rules are different from place to place. Just because you are an American doesn't mean you could break other nations' rules.

I know people would salute them as brave and having "cojones", but the truth is that after everything, it's not worth it---the pains and fears that the families are going through, the absence of the second parent (and most important one for that matter), and spousal separation.

While they deserve what they get (I am being painfully truthful here), I wish them and their families the best of luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 06/08/2009
- LKV I'm a Fan of LKV 41 fans permalink

See responce above.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/08/2009
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Really? You can't handle what you know is true? They put themselves in this fix and other journalists going abroad should learn their lessons. That being said, I pray for their release for the sake of their families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/08/2009
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And btw, that should be "response", not "responce" :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 06/08/2009
- Veronica I'm a Fan of Veronica 34 fans permalink
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"They deserve what they get" sounds like opinion to me. To say you're just being "truthful" and to further suggest after your harsh words that it "pains" you is incredibly disingenuous. Yeah, I'm sure they would really appreciate you wishing them luck after telling them they deserve whatever they get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 06/08/2009

um, 12 years is already a bit excessive for anything they might have done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/08/2009
- glaze I'm a Fan of glaze 6 fans permalink

With all the resources of this nation available to supposedly clever espionage/CIA type spooks whose sole delight is to disrupt the suppressed populace of anti-American nations like North Korea...
why don't they employ the one thing their leaders seem to be terrified of: being laughed at?

Surely there must be a way of overtly or covertly getting the message across- that easily 75% of the world's leaders consider IL & Co are less lucid than rabid baboons, so extremely stupid and paranoid as to be less than human- and therefore are standup fodder.

Commission Dane Cook or Steven Wright or Patton Oswalt or better yet, Margaret Cho to come up with a devastating routine, have it dubbed or subtitled into Korean. Then play it over big loudspeakers at the border near Pyongyang.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 06/08/2009
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"The sentence doesn't mean much because the issue will be resolved diplomatically in the end,"

Long articles always bury the relevant info, It's how arrogant writers force you to read all their precious words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 06/08/2009

they did it to them self, they should have known better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 06/08/2009
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You should know better than to use mommy's computer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 06/08/2009
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 572 fans permalink
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They may have been grabbed before or without actually violating N Korea's border laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/08/2009

You might want to consider that the border is a restricted zone, on the CHINESE side as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 06/08/2009
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Typical apologist comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/08/2009
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I had to really analyze my feeling about this, as I wanted to be certain that it is not motivated by racism. (I remember reading many, many years ago that the US backed France and turned down Ho Chi Minh's request for help in getting the French out of Vietnam because of race...it appalled me then and as a nation we paid a steep price for that ignorance.) So, I can say that my attitude toward these two unfortunate women is not racially based, but rather common sense based. What the hell were they doing at the North Korean border? Trafficking in human life is repugnant, but not as repugnant as watching North Korea nuke South Korea or Japan or whatever country it decides to attack. Putting the US in the position is of having to deal with the Kim is astoundingly stupid. If Gore was aware of this assignment, then he should be exchanged for the two young women...let him work off some of the lard...Normally I admire Al Gore but this was a stupid assignment to give to two young women. How could anyone expect they wouldn't be caught? Kim is a press hound, we should just ignore this story...he'll soon get bored and then the Swedes can negotiate their release. But the entire affair is stupid in the extreme

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 06/08/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

The US position with Hi Chi Minh was not over race, it was over rubber trees, or more specifically latex.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 06/08/2009
- StJames I'm a Fan of StJames 116 fans permalink
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Latex was only part of it. Remember this was the last 1940s and early 1950s...the Japanese were still very fresh in memory...so shameful as it may seem...race was definitely part of the decision to reject his call for help. Also, I didn't mean to imply it was strictly a racial issue...I should have said "partially because" Furthermore...don't you think we could have purchased the latex for less directly from the Vietnamese than what we had to pay the French for it...and wouldn't it have been cheaper to just buy the damn latex than spend billions of dollars, 58,000 lives, hundreds of thousands of injuries and 10 years of turmoil?
No war is ever about a single resource...just as Iraq was not about just oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/08/2009

Could be worse - they could be sent to the Gitmo Gulag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 06/08/2009
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Juvenile PAP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 06/08/2009
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3 square meals, free health care and time for prayer and exercise sure beats the heck out of a labor prison camp in NK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 06/08/2009
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 80 fans permalink

Why is that your focus on this topic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 06/08/2009

For those of you who want to pass judgment on these two women go ahead but get your facts straight and do your "journalistic" homework first. I mean - the irony in your misinformation is astounding! I am not as familiar with Euna Lee (she is a producer) but I have followed the work of Laura Ling for a long time. She is a real journalist with a history of doing important work. Work that is necessary for the world to see. She was on the border (the China side) reporting on how refugees are being forced into sex trafficking. She was not there fulfilling some Geraldo style ego. We desperately need more reporters like her and we definitely need to get her and Euna Lee home as soon as possible so they can continue telling the stories that need to be told.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/08/2009

I posted below, yes Ling has done some serious reporting (not always, by a long shot) in risky places, but usually under the auspices of the local authority, I think she was in over her head this time, and one conclusion one can certainly draw is that she was not authorized by CHINA to be where she was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 06/08/2009
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It was shocking that these two journalists were convicted. That said, the question is, are we any different with our illegalities of our detainees? How much of a mockery was the NK court, at least they got a trial. Or a trial like the US military court conducts. What example do we present to the world? No difference, I'm afraid.

These journalists will come home sometime after their pawn status is used in some type of wanting negotiatings NK wants from the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/08/2009
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Good point. At least they got a trial, kangaroo court as it may have been. Even if it is a farce, that's more than the US has given many of our detainees. Makes the situation all the more compIex.

StiII I am really saddened by this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/08/2009
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Actually in California, instead of sending people who enter the country illegally to 12 years of labor camp we give them free education.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 06/08/2009

the Koreans are also claiming that the journalists are to be educated for 12 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 06/08/2009
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I think we need more information before casting stones in either direction. Surely the cameraman who escaped can tell us which side of the border they were on when they were captured?

Scenario one (and the more likely of the two considering Kim's deeds in the past): They were grabbed on the Chinese side... if so, dastardly violation that can't go unpunished. You don't do that with US citizens, Kim. These are not South Korean movie producers you can kidnap at your whim as you've done in the past.

Scenario two: These two reporters brazenly entered N. Korea without permission in a time of precarious relations with the nation, completely disregarding international law, in effect jeapordizing the secruity of the free world for the sake of one story.

Knowing what we know of Kim Jong, I'm going with scenario number one big time.

I'm sorry, as a Korean-American myself, I've always felt that the best Kim Jong is a dead Kim Jong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 06/08/2009

i have reviewed, laura ling's videos on the current site and she has occasionally done some semi-risky stuff before, but usually under the protection of local authorities, while euna lee is mostly credited as an editor on various fluff pieces. This time, I think Ling was not authorized to be in the area, and got in over her head. It's a shame, because it may affect her future ability to report from china, What happened won't really be known until they are released, and guessing either way is pointless, They obviously miscalculated in any case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 06/08/2009
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You think Ling was not authorized to be there? or you know?

In any case, the fact that Kim Jong continues to live gives me great doubt as to the existence of karma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 06/08/2009
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I have ZERO patience with some self-professed "Liberals" on this thread & their COMPLETE lack of KNOWLEDGE of the subject.. as well as their lack of EMPATHY for the VICTIMS.

These women were in CHINA when they were taken.. by ALL accounts by the ONLY WITNESSES... but those of you who would rather believe KIMS "government" & the results of a 30 second "trial"... you can rest assured that your DELUSIONS are PALPABLE..

These women were taken for ONE reason.. as political PAWNS in a pissing contest between NK & America... it's their MODUS OPERANDI.... it's how they "NEGOTIATE" for RANSOM.

Over 200,000 POLITICAL PRISONERS in Hwasong "GULAG" ALONE.

Please... apologists for these MONSTERS need a GOOD soul searching... & your delusional righteous indignation notwithstanding.. & your BREATHTAKING attempts at moral relativism aside... do NOT obscure the facts that these INNOCENT women are rotting in a North Korean GULAG just so that MONSTER can try to "get it up" in front of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 06/08/2009

I remember when this story first broke out months ago, it was inconclusive as to whether they crossed the border or not. I do remember reading about the witness, but this was from some South Korean newspaper. Given the tension between the two places I don't trust the objectivity. Reading some of the newer stories on this I don't believe reading more evidence on this.

Here is something from CNN http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/21/n.korea.us.journalists/index.htmll)

" Officials said the State Department was trying to pin down exactly whether the journalists were on the Chinese side of the border or on the North Korean side when they were caught. The women were caught in the middle of the frozen Tumen River, where the border between the two countries is not clearly marked, a senior administration official said. "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 06/08/2009
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I tend to lend more credence to the witnesses than to the NK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 06/08/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

It is still unclear whether these women had entered the country after crossing a river, along its north-east border with China. Others said that the women had been arrested on the Chinese side by North Korean guards who objected to being filmed.

Until it is know where these women were actually taken, you ought to turn down the gain knob a little bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/08/2009
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I am still waiting for your evidence, link, etc... you have baseless arguments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 06/08/2009

Agreed. And I would not want to be in trouble, and have to rely on some of these commenters for assistance. Many pulled the same attitude recently when that woman was trapped in Iran. They would leave you to rot. Although in many cases these folks are the equivalent of the right contingent of wingnuts. You get the right wingnuts, for whom the USA can do no wrong, and then you get the left wingnuts, for whom the USA has hardly done a good deed in it's existence, and in their minds is guilty of everything including being unkind to children and small animals. For the left wingnuts, any power that is deemed opposed to the USA, in a twisted way is admired and valued, simply for that opposition. And any problem in the world is viewed as an opportunity to turn around and bash the USA. The irony of the whole thing is that the guy these left wingnuts support, isn't really their guy. Obama is the guy of left moderates and independents, he is my president in most word and deeds, not the wingnuts. I don’t think Obama wants much part of these left wingnuts, other than using their votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 06/08/2009

I know this sounds terrible but what did they expect poking around North Korea. It's not like they were going to be able to call their daddies to come bail them out. They knew what they were getting themselves into. Niave I guess. You don't f*** with these people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 06/08/2009

If they were men, would you insist they expected they could, "call their daddies?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 06/08/2009
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Sex!st.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 06/08/2009
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