Laura Ling, Euna Lee, US Journalists, Sentenced To 12 Years In North Korea

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WILLIAM FOREMAN and MATTHEW LEE | June 8, 2009 11:45 PM EST | AP

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A South Korean man watches a TV broadcasting news about two American journalists detained in North Korea at the Seoul Railway Station, in South Korea, Monday, June 8, 2009. North Korea's top court convicted the journalists and sentenced them to 12 years in a prison Monday, intensifying the reclusive nation's confrontation with the United States. The headline reads "North Korea convicted two American journalists and sentenced them to 12 years in a prison." (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

SEOUL, South Korea — The sentencing of two American journalists to 12 years' hard labor in North Korea sets the stage for possible negotiations with the reclusive nation for their release _ perhaps involving an envoy from the United States.

A joint statement by the family of the two reporters _ Laura Ling and Euna Lee _ expressed the hope that the governments of the United States and North Korea "can come to an agreement that will result in (their) release."

"We ask the government of North Korea to show compassion and grant Laura and Euna clemency," said the statement released Monday by the family's spokeswoman, Alanna Zahn.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who helped win the release of Americans from North Korea in the 1990s, said he was "ready to do anything" the Obama administration asked. Another possible negotiator, if the U.S. government approved, is former Vice President Al Gore, who founded the TV venture that both reporters work for.

A senior Obama administration official said Richardson and Gore had been in contact with the White House and State Department about potential next steps, including possibly sending an envoy to try to negotiate the release of Lee, 36, and Ling, 32, both of whom work for Gore's Current TV.

But the official stressed that no decisions had been made on how to proceed and said neither Gore nor Richardson had been asked to go. The official spoke on condition of anonymity due to the diplomatic sensitivity of the situation.

Asked Monday if Washington will send an envoy to the North, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Obama administration is "pursuing every possible approach that we can consider in order to persuade the North Koreans to release them and send these young women home."

She stressed that the reporters' case and Washington's efforts to punish North Korea for its recent nuclear test are "entirely separate matters."

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"We think the imprisonment, trial and sentencing of Laura and Euna should be viewed as a humanitarian matter," Clinton said. "We hope that the North Koreans will grant clemency and deport them."

The isolated North is probably less interested in having the women sent to its gulag, where poorly fed inmates often do backbreaking work in factories, coal mines and rice paddies.

Instead, Pyongyang will likely try to use them as bargaining chips in an increasingly tense standoff with the U.S. over the North's recent nuclear and missile tests.

President Barack Obama "is deeply concerned by the reported sentencing of the two American citizen journalists by North Korean authorities, and we are engaged through all possible channels to secure their release," said deputy White House spokesman William Burton.

Richardson, who also traveled to North Korea in 2007 to bring back the remains of Americans killed in the Korean War, said the journalists were part of a "high-stakes poker game" North Korea is playing. Now that the legal process has been completed, he said he thinks talks for their release can begin, with some kind of a political pardon as a goal.

"In previous instances where I was involved in negotiating, you could not get this started until the legal process had ended," he said on NBC's "Today" show.

He said the sentence was harsher than expected but added that the fact that espionage was not mentioned was a good sign.

He said North Korea so far has not, at least publicly, tried to tie this incident to differences with Washington over its nuclear program and the recent series of missile tests that it has conducted. He also said he has not seen particularly bellicose rhetoric from Pyongyang on the issue of the two women.

For several days, rumors have been swirling that Gore would fly to North Korea to negotiate the reporters' release. But Gore has not commented on a possible trip and has stayed silent about the case in general.

Victor Cha, who served as a senior Asia adviser on former President George W. Bush's National Security Council, said a high-level envoy, such as Gore, should be sent to negotiate the release of the Americans.

"North Koreans care a great deal about public face, and sending someone of Gore's stature would be an eminently credible humanitarian mission," he said.

North Korea wants to be treated like a legitimate nuclear state and hopes to draw Washington into direct negotiations about normalizing relations. Washington has refused to endorse such a status for an unpredictable nation with a history of terrorism, ripping up agreements and sharing its nuclear know-how with nations hostile to America.

Pyongyang is believed to be preparing another long-range missile test at a new launchpad. On Monday, North Korea warned fishing boats to stay away from the east coast, Japan's coast guard said, feeding concerns that more missile tests are being planned.

The U.N. has also been debating a new resolution to punish the North for its second nuclear test May 25. Pyongyang followed the test with a barrage of missile launches.

The case gives the two sides an excuse to talk, with the U.S. possibly sending a special envoy, said Kim Yong-hyun, a professor at Seoul's Dongguk University.

"I think the North is going to try to use the reporters to facilitate relations with the U.S.," said Kim, adding that he didn't think the women would be mistreated and would even be kept separate from North Korean inmates.

"The sentence doesn't mean much because the issue will be resolved diplomatically in the end," Kim said.

The journalists were arrested March 17 near the China-North Korea border, and it's unclear whether they tried to sneak into the North or if aggressive border guards crossed into Chinese territory and grabbed them, as has happened before. A cameraman and their local guide escaped.

Ling and Lee were reporting about the trafficking of women at the time of their arrest.

Their family's statement said "if they wandered across the border without permission, we apologize on their behalf."

It also expressed concern about the women's health, noting that Ling has a serious medical condition, a reference to her ulcer, while Lee's 4-year-old daughter is showing "signs of anguish over the absence of her mother."

The North accused the reporters of unspecified "hostile acts" and illegally entering the country, but the formal charges against them were unclear. Their trial began Thursday and foreigners weren't allowed to observe the proceedings.

The North's official news agency said Monday the women committed a "grave crime" and would be sentenced to 12 years of "reform through labor."

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Foreman reported from Seoul, Lee from Washington. Associated Press writers Jae-soon Chang, Hyung-jin Kim and Vijay Joshi in Seoul, Shino Yuasa in Tokyo, Carley Petesch in New York and Judy Lin in Carmichael, California, contributed to this report.

SEOUL, South Korea — The sentencing of two American journalists to 12 years' hard labor in North Korea sets the stage for possible negotiations with the reclusive nation for their release _ perh...
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- klondiker I'm a Fan of klondiker 56 fans permalink

Here is why I think they didn't cross into NK illegally: if they had any intention of reporting from inside NK, they would have gotten a visa. Contrary to what some people may think, American journalists have been granted visas (Nick Kristof is one exampke - he's been to NK twice). There is no reason why they would illegally try to enter, when a getting a visa was a possibility.

Second, the nature of their story was human trafficking. I imagine they wanted to spend time at the China - NK border, in order to report on any potential trafficking of humans across that border (which, by the way, is notorious for trafficking). Again, I don't see a reason to enter NK.

My guess is that either aggressive NK guards crossed into China and kidnapped them, or they were in the river and were taken in. After all, who really knows at which point in the river NK starts and China ends, especially when the river is flooded.

Bottom Line: they were not breaking any laws, and deserve to be released based on humanitarian grounds. As several people have mentioned already, we will probably need to send a high-profile envoy to negotiate the release (Al Gore or Bill Richardson).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 06/08/2009
- cardtosser I'm a Fan of cardtosser 6 fans permalink
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Journalists who enter North Korea legally are constantly attended to by state appointed 'guides'. They are not free to travel about the country and talk to people or take pictures. I believe that these women were either near or across the China-North Korea border trying to collect information and pictures for a documentry. The North Koreans are extremely secretive about their country and would certainly arrest anyone who tries to expose their abuses and poor economic conditions.

If they entered NK, intentionallly or not, they did indeed break laws.

I certainly hope that they are released. I don't think that their release will be possible without some consideration being paid to North Korea from the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 06/08/2009
- klondiker I'm a Fan of klondiker 56 fans permalink

Entering unintentionally is a small possibility. Based on what I have read, it seems to me that they were on Chinese soil when abducted. Of course, there is no way to know for sure, but it seems plausible to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/08/2009
- cardtosser I'm a Fan of cardtosser 6 fans permalink
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They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They had a trial. They will probably be released far short of their sentence. They probably will not be tortured.


Lakhdar Boumediene was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was imprisoned for 7 years without a trial. He was never formally accursed of any crime. He was tortured.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 06/08/2009
- DruggyBear I'm a Fan of DruggyBear 6 fans permalink
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you think that was a real trial? BWAHAHAHA are you reallly that naive?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 06/08/2009
- cardtosser I'm a Fan of cardtosser 6 fans permalink
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No, I do not think that it was a 'real' trial. Real trial in this case meaning a trial where one is represented by a independent attorney, where the accused is allowed to challenge the evidence presented, or where the substance of the trial is released to the public. I do not think that the tribunals held in GITMO were real trials.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 06/08/2009
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If these 2 hack reporters were trespassing onto a US Military base like GITMO or a military research facility like Area 51 or Lawrence Livermore Laboratoies, they too would be arrested for trespassing and spying an would be found guilty in a military trial, (not a civilian trial, and subject to those legal preceedings and laws).. so don't pretend this doesn't happen in the US, because it does. Now you can even be tried for trespassing and spying through the internet. Stop the hypocrisy.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6072959645665830540

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4252902807834262581

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 06/08/2009

I am sick and tired of people going to foreign countries and then crying when they get arrested. Boo hoo. If you break the law in a foreign country be prepared to suffer a severe sentence. This is not the West!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 06/08/2009

Who said they were crying? As far as I know they have no contact with anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/08/2009
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 30 fans permalink

What law did they break, pray tell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 06/08/2009

Well, are accused of, and were tried for, entering North Korea illegally. Say whatever you want about North Korea, but it is their country, not ours. Furthermore, why is it so ridiculous to think that these two women were spies? Just last week we find out that two people in their 70's have been selling secrets to Cuba for 30 years. Do you honestly think that we don't have spies that get caught every once and a while?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 06/08/2009
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Can you please tell us what law they broke?

I assume you believe everything North Korea has stated about these two women supposedly crossing over into their territory illegally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 06/08/2009
- cardtosser I'm a Fan of cardtosser 6 fans permalink
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Certainly it is possible that the North Koreans entered China, captured these women and carried them back to North Korea. However just because the North Koreans claim that they were within North Korean territory doesn't make that claim false.

That being said, I hope that they are released soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 06/08/2009
- DruggyBear I'm a Fan of DruggyBear 6 fans permalink
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how did i know the "moral equivalency" mo.rons would be here bashing their own country over Gitmo, where detainees are treated pretty well, they have better health care than i do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 06/08/2009
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That's moral equivalency to the OTHER extreme.

GITMO is an A.TROCITY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 06/08/2009
- javaz I'm a Fan of javaz 106 fans permalink
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How many millions or billions will the US taxpayer shell out for the release of 2 supposed journalists who illegally entered a combatant country for their own careers, and certainly not for the good of the US?

I do hope these 2 are released, but they should be held accountable for their ignorance and stupidity, and if they write memoirs, and appear on TV, all of the money they make should be returned to the taxpayers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 06/08/2009
- klondiker I'm a Fan of klondiker 56 fans permalink

Relax, nobody is asking you to give any money (boy, I sure hope you don't take the call, if someone I know gets kidnapped).

And, there's no need to be overdramatic - we will not be spending billions for their release. At max, we will send over a high-level envoy, who will negotiate their release or pledge food aid (which, let's be honest, is not a bad use of money).

As for your point that they illegally entered the country for their own careers, not for the good of the USA...

1) We don't know that the entered the country (so stop speculating)
2) A vibrant, bold, free press is one of the things we value in America, so it does help the country when our journalists seek the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 06/08/2009

I'm sure when the journalist are released, they are going write book, produce movie and make millions of dollars for the documentary they were working on, see, they are going to be ok after all this is over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 06/08/2009
- javaz I'm a Fan of javaz 106 fans permalink
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Yup.
They'll become millionaires while the rest of us taxpayers foot the bill for their release.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/08/2009
- futate01 I'm a Fan of futate01 40 fans permalink
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...if, unlike Daniel Pearl... if they become millionaires is because they did something. You sit on your couch eating your potato chips, and expect what? What have you done to help this, or any country, besides hanging teabags from your hat?

These girls are actually doing something. Nobody knows what's going on inside N.K. and this girls had the courage to go in there, and now they are paying the price for their courage. Like freedom, courage is not free, but you would not know that since potato chips are so darn delicious. I guess it's easy to dictate to the world what it should do from behind your laptop while sitting on a couch.

I hope they do get released and I hope they do make millions from shining a light on a place of darkness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 06/08/2009

Those two poor girls are pawns in Kims power play. They shouldn't have been in North Korea to begin with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/08/2009
- NickyD I'm a Fan of NickyD 9 fans permalink
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After reading an article in the Times about the Prison Camps, I GULPED. How awful and chances of survival are slim. I am sending prayers and thoughts for their release and that they get home safely to their families. I feel this issue and the consequences are bringing North Korea's evil existence to the ears and eyes to every person in every country. Can you imagine life in North Korea? We are so lucky to live in a country that has freedom and even freedom to comment on websites just like this one! I am very proud to be an American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/08/2009

Exactly. And there are NK apologists on here that think these women deserve what they get, based on the crimes of Bush. We are lucky we can expose atrocities in our own country and try and do something about it...yet Kim J gets to hide behind bogus laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 06/08/2009
- Loki11467 I'm a Fan of Loki11467 8 fans permalink
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sadly after gitmo and abu gharib if they are abused or tortured the US can't say a damn thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 06/08/2009
- DruggyBear I'm a Fan of DruggyBear 6 fans permalink
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oh please! far worse things have been done during wartime! get over it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 06/08/2009
- globality I'm a Fan of globality 20 fans permalink

They knew what they were doing.

They are causing us problems in our foreign policy. Let's see if they are "reformed" in a dozen years

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 06/08/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 342 fans permalink
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They were conviced for "hostility toward the Korean people." LOL

That's amazing. And that little worm Kim Jong-il, who keeps his nation in the dark ages isn't hostile toward the Korean People?

If the planet needs to remove a cancer from its body, it would start in North Korea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/08/2009

I keep trying this but so far have not gotten any answers.
For those of you saying we shouldn't care about these journalists because we have Gitmo to be ashamed about: How was Gitmo exposed? Was it by brave journalists? Or just magic? When it was exposed, did you call the journalists "stupid"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 06/08/2009
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ty

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 06/08/2009
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They were released by the military.... who gave it to the media.

The jounalist did not break into GITMO and become a detainee and be tortured. In essence, the reporters broke into a prison (NKorea is a state with martial law... which by definition is a prison... you can't get in or get out) to be taken into custody, to be tried and found guilty, and to be tortured. That is stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 06/08/2009
- RuWii I'm a Fan of RuWii 20 fans permalink
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of course, had journalists actually broken into gitmo to obtain that information, you'd be first in line to throw them in jail, right?

of course you would. Journalists have no meaning to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/08/2009

Do you support NK having martial law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 06/08/2009
- Ping I'm a Fan of Ping 63 fans permalink

This not the first time NK has resorted to kidnapping. A criminal regime has no credibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 06/08/2009
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Hey, the NKoreans did not come to American and take them 8000miles across the pacific to kidnap them. They deliberately put themselves in harms way. I'm not trying to throw them under the bus, but if they jump in front of a speeding bus, we know what can happen.

We should not have to go pick up their guts and carcasus and risk more bloodshed because they did something moronic like jump in front of a bus.

I'm not a reporter travelling to the communist nation of China which limits journalism and furthermore go to the border nation of another communits nation which has even more limits on journalism and is more adversarial to the US than China. What kind of an idiot do you have to be to push you luck with both China and NKorea? Answer: A Laura Ling and Euna Lee Hack pararazzi sensationalistic reported who heeds advice and ignores the provisions clearly stipulated in their pasaport-- abide by the laws of other countries whey outside the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 06/08/2009
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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We already know all about criminal regimes that resorted to kidnapping, we just got through 8 years of Bush lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 06/08/2009
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I agree, a criminal regime has no credibility... we just got past 8 hellish years with Bush and Cheney, shy should the world believe us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 06/08/2009
- FrankenPC I'm a Fan of FrankenPC 50 fans permalink

I say we go in and get them out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 06/08/2009
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Send you kin not mine!

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 06/08/2009
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Their recklessness will only encourage other paparazzi to do the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 06/08/2009
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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You go, then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 06/08/2009

I really hope they will be released. I read an interview of a former North Korean prisoner who managed to escape from the labour camps, and what he experienced and witnessed is beyond imagination. Prisoners are essentially made into slaves, and many do not survive their full sentence, but either die from starvation or are executed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 06/08/2009
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I expect them to be treated fairly well, better than the average prisoner. After all they are American citizens and they're being used as bargaining chips.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 06/08/2009
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Yes, we are Americans and we should be treated "special just because"... is our life worth more that others? Is that how you rationalize this when you go to bed? "We are special" How do you justify this? What gives us more worth than the average prisoner? So you agree that we are pawns in a game?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 06/08/2009
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