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The official silence on Capitol Hill on single payer -- at least in the House -- is ending.
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Just a heads up to those who are interested, the Single Payer hearing will be covered by C-Span, it's currently listed on the front page, www.cspan.
Congressional Hearing to Consider Single-Payer Healthcare
YES WE CAN AND YES WE DID!
I would love to see Americans have a decent health care system like they have in France, Germany etc.
Like Roosevelt in 1933, "you want this ......... make me do it."
Again, President Obama is showing his brilliance by letting "forces" move to eventually make him sign a historic healthcare bill.
Pressure needs to continue as the "status quo" forces mount a battle like we've never seen before.
Please go to:
pnhp.org
It will answer all your questions.
I have a lot of questions that that site does not answer.
Why must the government approve of every medical procedure we do?
Why is government approval of doctors and medicines more valuable than the approval of independent medical approval boards?
Why does "insurance" cover things that are more similar to minor maintenence?
Everybody on this board assumes that it's a choice between our current, awful big-insurance system and universal health care. Amazingly, some people call what we currently have "free market medicine."
On the contrary, our current system is FAR from the free market. It's run by a number of politically connected cartels and huge corporations who make it legally impossible for small competitors to function. Thus our awful system.
In a free market, people would have the choice to go to doctors who have been officially certified, or not, depending on their own choices and health beliefs. People could buy, for instance, accident insurance, and use the savings to pay for alternative medicine practioners.
In America today, the government certifies certain doctors and certain systems of medicine. Everything that does not receive government certificiation lives in a grey zone.
Under single payer, this would be worse - single payer would presumably ONLY cover western medicine (ie, allopathy), and alternative medicine would be further strangled.
Under single payer, this would be worse - single payer would presumably ONLY cover western medicine (ie, allopathy), and alternative medicine would be further strangled.
And that's different then now how? Insurance companies routinely deny claims for even those things that are approved to say they are "experimental" or will not cover that procedure or drug due to that is not its intended purpose.
You've just stated more garbage scare tactics.
This is it, folks.....
Health care is not a product, a discretionary buy, a luxury....
Well said. The system became ineffective and unresponse when many doctors become businessmen more attuned to profit than to patient care.
Single-pay
If nothing happens, our only other option is to move. How about moving to Canada, England, or France? We may have to leave our Mother Land because we can't afford good medical care and don't want to die needlessly. Yikes!!!!!
Why do you imply that single-payer is the only way to go? Yes, we need to get rid of the insurance companies. They have drastically distorted and inflated the cost of care, and driven down the quality received. But single payer is not the only solution.
The article about Kennedy's rough draft generated much comment. Basically, we determined tht it is nothing more than a new product for the insurance companies, modeled after the federal plan but probably with higher costs than what Congress pays for theirs, and all plans through private insurers with tweaks like elimination of pre existing exclusions, extending age of dependent children to age 26 yrs, elimination of annual and lifetime limits, etc. Not really reform at all and does nothing for access to care; doesn't answer the needs we face; it's a sham.
This plan, lobbied by National Nurse Association speaks to exactly what the problems are that are facing real people and those of us who must provide their care. It is a single payor option and it is the only real reform plan. Please write your Congresspeople, including Senators, and the President and tell them this is what we need. I cannot imagine a bunch of politicians and insurance execs telling us what is good for us. Can you?
It's likely this country will never have single payer. It's been made out to be such a poor option when in reality it's been excellent in Canada. This country has really turned fascist in my opinion. The companies run everything. We have democracy on one day in America, election day. The rest of them, it's just one big company town.
Adds new meaning to the song lyric, "I sold my soul to the company store."
and after, they can say, "we gave you a seat, now shove off. you are getting a public 'option' that is 'mandatory
Guys we're wasting time on this blog. Go after the Blue Dogs. We're a coherent lot we can harp till these so called DINOs listen.
sure. my senators Lincoln and Pryor, should be card carrying repubs.
& a point of thought to thoses against single payer systems.
If the US style health care system is the best in the world, why don't Americans see people people in countries that have "Universal health care" protesting their governments to get US style health care?
Great question! Something I'll bet the right has never thought of.
I just wrote to my two senators and all the blue dog sen's (except Lieberman, he's just too ughhh! for my taste) - that's 15 Senators, telling them that I want SPH put on the table. What can you do?
This is officially the shortest HuffPo article ever.
Let us not settle for "one hearing" about something as pivotal and fundamental to the reform as single payer. This is another trick by lawmakers to make us think they have "covered the issue".
Let us fight for single payer and debate it and have hearings on it until it is part of the final overhaul.
Demand more hearings:
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The reasons why the single-payer health care system is a viable solution can be found here:
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Unfortunately, this option will never see the light of day in the US.
Don't be so defeatist! Something has worked recently to get it back on the table. We can do this.
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First Posted: 06- 9-09 05:22 PM | Updated: 06- 9-09 06:00 PM