Congressional Dems Will Let Gitmo Detainees In US For Trial: Reuters

Reuters:

In a partial reprieve for President Barack Obama, congressional Democrats plan to allow detainees held in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be brought onto U.S. soil for trial, two congressional aides said on Wednesday.

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[lvdragonlady]

It is hilarious that the republicans are running yelling the sky is falling, when it isn't. They make it seem like the US is moving the detainees from Gitmo to here and letting them run the streets. These are the SAME guys who thought it was ok to torture.
They will be guarded and held just like any other criminal so what is the big deal.

[DallasMike]

What noone on this thread is asking is what if the detainee is found not guilty, then what do we do?
Let him walk the streets of America free to wage his Jihad against us?

[Sundialsvc4]

"Presumed innocent."

I believe that when you say that the man is intent to "wage a jihad," you have already found him to be presumed-guilty.

Left to its own process, the criminal justice system works extremely well. If there is or ever was any truth to the allegations (if, indeed, there ever was any allegation at all... not just, say, a tribal bounty hunter), it WILL be found.

[CigarGod]

The Quran does call for "jihad" as a military struggle on behalf of Islam. But the Quran also refers to jihad as an internal, individual, spiritual struggle toward self-improvement, moral cleansing and intellectual effort. It is said that Prophet Muhammad considered the armed-struggle version of holy war "the little jihad," but considered the spiritual, individual version of holy war--the war within oneself--as "the great jihad."

[judiNJ]

Oh please... what a dumb statement. If they are innocent, they go home. We have fits if we have some poor soul cutting our lawns without a green card. We have had tons of these guys tried across the river from where I live and they are serving life sentences. New Yorkers would laugh their collective a**es off at you. Where have you been for the past 16 years?

[lvdragonlady]

If found not guilty, then send them home. Just because they are being tried here does not give them the right to move around this country or does it give them citizenship.
A big something out of nothing.

[i5kfun]

I didn't realize they had a say in the matter.

[ImWithStupid]

Congressional Dems are shameful. I hate these neocons, but maybe they have a point when they brand Dems as weak and girlie men. They have the majority, and behave as if theyre suffering from abused spouse syndrome. No gumption whatsoever

[ohiomark]

This is really scary.

Obama has ordered the FBI to read captured terrorists their "Miranda Rights", all without telling Congress. Obama is out of control.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/10/lawmaker-says-obama-ordered-fbi-read-rights-detainees/

What's next, putting yellow police tape around the battlefield as a "crime scene"?

[ImWithStupid]

You're using a link from Fixed News to sell your argument? Try again ohiomark!

[dzent1]

OOOHHH! SCARY SCARY SCARY! YELLOW TAPE! MIRANDA! BLACK MAN ON PRESIDENTIAL CRACK! Hey you guys! Guys? Isn't anyone listening? (crickets.­..YAWNing crickets) Hello?

Curses, foiled again, Ohio Mark...

[Rockwell]

Aren't you right wingers supposed to be scared of the big bad government? Because that's one thing you and I could agree on. Wouldn't a government that captures people and throws them into prison without evidence, without charges, without habeus corpus, without access to a lawyer or even family, that can let them rot for decades until the meat falls off their bones - wouldn't you consider that to be pretty damned scary?

Because it scared the sh*t out of me when George and Dick decided to do it. Because when the government gets a taste of that kind of absolute power, it spreads like cancer through the whole system. And pretty soon its not just the Army doing it but the cops in your city locking up your kids who may or may not have done anything wrong. But you won't be able to do anything about it because the government won't tell you what they did, or who accused them or what evidence may or may not exist or how long they are going to be in the slammer. Its you against the Chief of Police and guess who's going to win.

Now you may feel all warm and fuzzy because the Government is locking up brownskin foreigners with funny accents. But our pretty smart founders, like Washington, Madison, Jefferson and Adams thought that was a pretty bad idea because they lived under Governments who did that exact thing.

[We-Are-The-Ones]

What is scary about Miranda rights?

[ohiomark]

Say goodbye to intellegence gathering.

We have never given Constitutional rights to enemy combatants when they were captured in a foreign country like they were a shoplifter.

[ProfessorDuh]

So Miranda rights are "scary," but torture, kidnapping, permanent secret imprisonment and blatant violations of the Constitution, the Geneva Conventions and the rule of law are not? No, you fasci$ts are what's scary.

[ohiomark]

You might want to read the Geneva Convention. Terrorists do not qualify, for many reasons, to rights from that Convention and they they also don't qualify to rights under the United States Constitution when they are captured in a foreign country.

This is a war, or at least it used to be.

[darker]

Wow, America can use Guantanamo as a expensive
FAT-FARM SPA for rich Republicans ! ! !
Starting with Karl Rove.

[citizensrus]

HARDIN, Mont., May 26 (UPI) -- An empty state-of-the-art prison in Hardin, Mont., is the perfect place to house detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, the city council said.
The Council unanimously supports moving detainees to Hardin, which has 3,400 residents and is Montana's poorest county, CNN reported Tuesday.

"It would bring jobs. Believe it or not, it would even bring hope and opportunity," Greg Smith, Hardin's economic development director, told CNN.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/26/Montana-town-wants-Gitmo-detainees/UPI-69751243363057/

[ChiGuy]

We here in Illinois have an abandoned maximum security prison sitting and gathering dust between film crews using it.
It housed John Gotti for a period before he died.

[DanteLabon]

Hey, is that the Prison Break prison...J­oliet I believe?

[demrepub]

That's what happens when you refuse to eat.

[Tommygun264]

And that's what happens when you throw someone into a gulag and torture them for years without charges, without a trial and without any hope simply because someone has branded you the worst of the worst based on prejudice and irrational fear. Let's lock you up, beat you, humiliate yoy and waterboard you on a daily basis for seven years without charging you or giving you access to a lawyer or your family and see how it affects your appetite, Sparky.

[ChiGuy]

The whole "Not in MY backyard!" meme started by Republicans was ridiculous from the very beginning.

[DanteLabon]

They don't care about these detainee's being in OUR backyards. They only care that the detainees will get ahold of GOOD legal representation and it will be discovered and the American people will find out that they were grabbed, imprisoned, tortured, and held without charges for 7 years...an­d did NOTHING wrong. That just might not bode well for repug's future elections.

[SammyD]

Flip-flop I'm getting whiplash already. Make a decision and stick to it. Wow, this act was really transparent wasn't it?

[Coyote777 7]

I am sorry A,rianna, but we R restricted from expressing our views, so my voice will remain silent....­..........­..........

[We-Are-The-Ones]

LOL

Shhhhhhh

[hoopesaz]

Perhaps it's related to refusing food.

[JackND]

The Senate Democrats who were part of that humiliating 90-6 spectacle and party to embarrassing the president should issue apologies for allowing themselves to be punk'd by the GOP.

[DanteLabon]

What is it with repugs and apologies????? I guess it says a lot about them, considering Bush never apologized for ANY of the war crimes he committed.

[abouttime]

The fact that Congress is passing a bill, for or against fundamental Constitutional rights that are and have been for years now, full of obviously abused "suspects" sickens me. Guantanamo is a hell house where cruelty and suffering abound. Our system is in Constitutional crisis that the people must address.

Of course the gulag should be shut down -- for many years now. Every human being should be afforded rights we pretend we have!

Also, this bill is huge containing $100 billion for IMF and more for Pakistan. More details about how the money would be spent and who and how it will be regulated and ripped off.

[AmandaBC]

You mean the "hotel Gitmo" and "they're treated better than Americans" was all a big lie?

Shocker...

[AmandaBC]

Sorry, wrong thread (wrong link, actually..­.)