Obama Reasserts Support For Public Plan While AMA Backtracks On Opposition

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First Posted: 06-11-09 01:40 PM   |   Updated: 06-11-09 03:15 PM

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Speaking at a town hall in Green Bay Wisconsin, President Barack Obama addressed head on what is the hot debate of the day: whether a health reform overhaul should include a public option for health insurance.

"I also strongly believe that one of the options in the exchange should be a public insurance option," Obama declared, in what was one of his most forceful statements of support since the health care debate began. "And the reason is not because we want a government takeover of health care. I've already said, if you've got a private plan that works for you, that's great. But we want some competition. If the private insurance companies have to compete with a public option, it will keep them honest and it will help keep their prices down."

The remarks came just several hours after the American Medical Association said it would oppose a public option for coverage. But in a reflection of just how delicate this debate has become, the 250,000 member physician group largely backtracked from its opposition later in the day.

"Make no mistake: health reform that covers the uninsured is AMA's top priority this year," a clarifying statement from the group read. "Every American deserves affordable, high-quality health care coverage.

"Today's New York Times story creates a false impression about the AMA's position on a public plan option in health care reform legislation. The AMA opposes any public plan that forces physicians to participate, expands the fiscally-challenged Medicare program or pays Medicare rates, but the AMA is willing to consider other variations of the public plan that are currently under discussion in Congress. This includes a federally chartered co-op health plan or a level playing field option for all plans. The AMA is working to achieve meaningful health reform this year and is ready to stand behind legislation that includes coverage options that work for patients and physicians."

While not directly addressing AMA's position on the public plan, the president did offer what seemed to be a subtle dig at the group's seemingly conflicting objectives. AMA's mission has been health care coverage for all, but it has also opposed every major attempt at a systematic overhaul since the FDR administration.

"Doctors didn't get into the medical profession to be bean counters or paper pushers," Obama said in his early remarks, underscoring the bureaucratic problems that exists in the status quo. "They are not interested in spending all their time acting like lawyers or business executives."

Later in the question and answer session, Obama directly addressed the political component of the debate over the public option, gently calling out critiques for misrepresenting the plan's objectives.

"Now, how this debate is evolving in Washington, unfortunately sometimes kinds of falls into the usual politics, right?" the President said. "So, what you've heard is some folks on the other side saying, I'm opposed to a public option because that's going to lead to government running your health care system. Now, I don't know how clearly I can say this, but let me try to repeat it. If you've got health insurance that you're happy with through the private sector, then we're not going to force you to do anything. All we're saying is for the 46 million people who don't have health insurance or for people who have got health insurance like you... let's change some of those incentives so that we get more people getting prevention, more people getting health care to keep them healthy as opposed to just treating them when they get sick. And I think that we can come up with a sensible, commonsense way that's not disruptive, that still has room for insurance companies and the private sector, but that does not put people in the position where they are potentially bankrupt every time they get sick."

The ability of the president to elevate himself above the usual political scrum proved monumentally valuable during the course of the campaign. His appearance at Green Bay on Thursday suggests that the Obama White House thinks it can apply this formula to the health care reform debate. The friendlier turf, they believe, is outside Washington.

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- mjeffn I'm a Fan of mjeffn 27 fans permalink

Single payer NOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 06/11/2009
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Mandatory coverage is a terrible idea, unless the government plans to pay for it with tax dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 06/11/2009
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That's what we have for car insurance, don't we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 06/11/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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mandatory coverage without a public option means ...getting bankrupt before getting s! ck ..people are not getting covered because they cant afford their premiums..­.it's too much for them ..a single payer health care system will lower costs and lower your premium because you will be contributing to a pool of 300 million people ..this makes us all share the risk and the burden and it will keep costs down......­we must all share the risk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

And since mandatory coverage is the single mandate they all agree on it makes sense to pick up the one plan that actually specifies using the government to pay for it. That's "universal single payer"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 06/11/2009

And it works!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 06/12/2009
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If we can take the profit incentive out of such a large segment of the economy as healthcare, then could expand these principles to the rest of our economy and build the perfect society!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Not at all. I can chose whether or not I buy bread today. I can chose if whole wheat is better than rye. Not everyone eats bread at all.

I can't choose not to get sick or how much that will cost. I just know that everyone will get sick sooner or later.

Market forces and capitalism are a wonderful way to decide how much bread gets made and how much it will cost. The demand for health care does not obey the same rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 06/11/2009
- JDM73 I'm a Fan of JDM73 41 fans permalink
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Whatever, Mr. President. The fact that the single-payer proposal has been excluded is a pretty good indication of what sort of "option" we'll get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/11/2009
- ApprxAm I'm a Fan of ApprxAm 9 fans permalink
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He's having a hard enough time pushing through this partial package through.

There are only two ways to do this thing:

Let the whole damn thing collapse, like I think they should

or

Take major, but piecemeal, steps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 06/11/2009
- Ohsherri I'm a Fan of Ohsherri 104 fans permalink
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I just wanted to get off my chest-

that in Canada...w­hen a woman is pregnant , she gets care before...d­uring...an­d after
the pregnancy. And then there's the "follow-ups" for herself and the baby afterwards.

Free...cov­ered by taxes...no bill to her.

And then she gets a year off work...pai­d Maternity Leave...wh­ere the boss still pays her...but
she's at home with the baby.
The boss HAS to take her back after the year is up...it's the LAW.
Now the boss gave her position for a year to a "temporary worker"...­which I have been before,
and you get great experience.
I just wanted to say that NOBODY UP HERE HAS GONE BANKCRUPT because of Maternity Leave.
We do very well with it...we are used to it!!!!
Nobody even talks about it for gawdssakes!

It really makes me ang ry when the right-wing FRINGE says something so absurd and tries to
fri..ghten by saying "business's would go bankcrupt with Maternity Leave"...N­OBODY HAS!

And also...NOB­ODY is "spi tting out kids".
You have to work a certain amont of time to qualify fot the Maternity Leave.
You can't just sit at home and decide to be paid for getting pregnant.
You have to be a WORKING WOMAN that has been WORKING for a certain period of time!

Gawd!....T­he RIGHT wing just feeds you these "sca ry lyes" and the Main Stream runs with it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Yeah, but Canada went with that "civilization" and "morality" and "decency" and "intelligence" stuff. Here in the US of A we're proud that we're doing something "different".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/11/2009
- ApprxAm I'm a Fan of ApprxAm 9 fans permalink
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WE seem to like the brave and unitary approach when we're young and indestructable.

Then we turn 40-50 and realize that help is needed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 06/11/2009
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You really don't get it, do you?

Obama isn't talking about single payer. He's talking about a trillion dollar money grab from the private insurance system for no good reason.

If you think that's going to provide the benefits you're talking about, you're sadly mistaken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Actually in it's current form it's a money grab FOR the private insurance system. I do agree there's no good reason for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 06/11/2009
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Thank you for posting this over and over again so every one can see the one true path to medical nirvana! A blessing on you and on your children and your children's children..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

I guess it sucks when you can't actually argue the point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 06/11/2009
- chriss0114 I'm a Fan of chriss0114 25 fans permalink
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It is time for all senators and representatives to give up their employer (us) provided health care and go out and buy a private health care insurancepackage and fully expose what they get (no cushy deals from their bug pharma/med assoc buddies) and see what it is really like for so many Americans suffering who cannot get insrance and those even with employer insurance that is inadequate but won't cover with pre-exxisting conditions as I'm sure many in congress have or they have family who have said conditions

I mean look at Boehner, he's orange!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 06/11/2009
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Well said Chriss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 06/11/2009
- kimleehan I'm a Fan of kimleehan 31 fans permalink

So uner the new public healthcare system will the poor and underinsured still have to apply for the city healthcare's gold card and go to the city hospitals with the indigent and criminally insane. whats going to change, just the way we get billed. will we still have to wait hours and hours for service and wait for six months for test to find out if that lump is cancer.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 06/11/2009
- abt I'm a Fan of abt 4 fans permalink

The Times' article says the A.M.A. opposes the Democrats' public plan option, but then says the A.M.A. "does not speak for all doctors" and characterizes the Physicians for a National Health Program as some kind of fringe group with a minority opinion.
But a major survey of 2,000 U.S. doctors last year, conducted by the Indiana U. School of Medicine, found that a clear majority (59%) supports legislation to establish a national health insurance program (aka single payer).
So who exactly does the A.M.A. represent these days?
The Indiana U. survey is detailed here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN31432035

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/11/2009

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single_payer_resources.php

NATIONAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH PLAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 06/11/2009
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Don't be f0oled! That's not single payer health CARE. It's only single payer INSURANCE tacked on top of a for-profit health care system.

Medicare is already a single payer health INSURANCE system tacked on top of a for-profit health care system. It's imminently insolvent. It's running permanent deficits, and will be bankrupt by 2017. It doesn't work, because no matter how efficient the INSURANCE is, they have to pay the outrageous health care costs passed on to them by the for-profit health care system.

Don't be f0o1ed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/11/2009
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Medicare is much more efficient than insurance companies. Their costs are much less to administer and they don't pay mega-millions of dollars in salaries to CEO's.
A government run health care system available to all will be good for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 06/11/2009

I wouldn't listen to Chuck Norris,
so why should I listen to you.......­.....(?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 06/11/2009

Medicare DOES work. My parents are on it and love it.

The insolvency issue is not a reflection of it not working, it's a combination of policy making that needs to be done to make it solvent in the long term plus reduce costs in other areas.

One big thing Congress needs to do is give Medicare bargaining power for lower drug prices. That forbidden by Republican legislation that Bush signed. So a big part of Medicare's insolvency problem is the politicians who WANT it to be insolvent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Wow! What an outstanding resource. Thank you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 06/11/2009
- emerywood I'm a Fan of emerywood 4 fans permalink

A health insurance program for those who cannot afford to buy insurance ? Sounds like the government
is paying the premiums for them. If that is the case, everybody will join and give up their present
health insurance plans except the very rich. Or, is this just an extension of MediCaid, where one doesn't have to pay anything if one cannot afford it or MediCare where one pays something but not as much as regular health insurance ? Or, is this plan just for the very poor ? How is this going to cut cost ? The only way it will cut cost is if the government pays providers and hospitals and big pharma and medical suppliers even less than MediCaid does now. Is this it ? Why not let people know the details ? We all support something for nothing given by the government except those die-hard believers in Capitalism or those whose incomes are likely to drop substantially.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 06/11/2009
- Ohsnap I'm a Fan of Ohsnap 45 fans permalink

Then the AMA realized that the only reason their doctors aren't losing 7% a year in medicare fees is because the Dems kept blocking the GOP attempts to do it. It's funny how that works...yo­u don't want to bite the hand that feeds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 06/11/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 34 fans permalink
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We need a good health plan for America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/11/2009
- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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YES!
We all need to work for health care.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Did ya notice that he wants you to work for something but doesn't tell you any details about what that something is? See, that's a bad sign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 06/12/2009

I find this FASCINATING "Progressives" seem to want an absolutely trouble free life where everything they deem important is given to them; which weakens humanity (regression), and the only things that even remotely mirror this dream are, as an infant or in Heaven neither of which they value. it's interesting isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

You might want to try to start understanding the things that "fascinate" you so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/11/2009
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 317 fans permalink
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I found fascinating how the Regressives think that a perfect world consist on taking from the poor, and the middle class so everything is given to the wealthy, and so they can live the dream of an infant in heaven. Is interesting, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 06/11/2009
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CLAP CLAP CLAP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 06/11/2009

you're free to become wealthy if you have something others want, besides your own self doubt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 06/11/2009

progress or perish, that evoluton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 06/11/2009

perfection is the dream I was refering to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/11/2009

well said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 06/12/2009
- zius I'm a Fan of zius 74 fans permalink
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this is about smart policy that will keep the cost of health care down ..and prevent the country from going bankrupt ..layoff your ideological BS..this is about saving the country from bankruptcy and providing affordable health care for everybody.­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/11/2009

it's safe to say the country is already bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 06/11/2009
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I take issue with "weakens humanity (regression)".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 06/11/2009

I meant no offense it's just nature.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 06/11/2009
- mrfreeze I'm a Fan of mrfreeze 140 fans permalink
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It's fascinating to me how fascists like to tell progressives what they want. or what they should think.

Only children believe in a trouble-free life. I suppose you simply don't want to be troubled by having to pay for a universal health care system (poor baby). On the other hand, adults know that when the general population is healthy and productive, when years of hard work aren't washed away by medical bills and when we are not indentured to the companies for whom we work (or the insurance companies)­.....Ameri­ca will be a better place.

Heck, if you want to live your Darwinian dream out, move to Somalia or pitch a tent in Antarctica.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 06/11/2009

you seem very angry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 06/11/2009

I never told anyone what to think or believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 06/11/2009
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Yes! Finally. gobama!
"If the private insurance companies have to compete with a public option, it will keep them honest and it will help keep their prices down."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

I can't find a single "public option" plan that says the general public will be allowed to buy from the government if they want to. I only find ones that say a public plan will be available for those who can't afford private health care. In that instance there would be no competition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 06/11/2009
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It's irrelevant. The government already holds a >50% monopoly on all health care spending in this country. IF they could drive down health care costs, they would already be doing so today. Since they can't or won't, there's no reason to believe that they could do so with another 5% market share.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 06/11/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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You need to understand what competition within the business world means before making a judgment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 06/11/2009
- Roses I'm a Fan of Roses 43 fans permalink
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Maybe you want to read this? It may open your mind and your eyes. Plus it may stop any misinformation that is floating around out there.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 06/11/2009

This will help the insurance companies dump all of the sick people that drain their profits on to the public plan.

Single payer socialized medicine or nothing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 06/12/2009
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"Their prices" ARE NOT the problem.

Insurance administrative costs are not driving this country bankrupt. Want proof? Look at Medicare. 2-3% administrative costs. They're 10 times more efficient on their administration. And guess what, they're STILL imminently insolvent because the underlying for-profit health care system is skyrocketing with double digit inflation year after year.

This is all a misdiretion by Obama and the Dems. Administrative costs aren't skyrocketing by double digits every year, health care costs are. They're trying to tell you that insurance companies are the problem when they simply aren't. They refuse to take on the real problem, which is for-profit doctors and for-profit hospitals and an unreasonably high standard of care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/11/2009
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excuse me, are you saying that doctors are so greedy none will work in the public sector.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/11/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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You've got a valid argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 06/11/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 160 fans permalink

Saying that 30% overhead that contributes nothing to health care isn't part of the problem driving the country to bankruptcy is a pretty bold statement. Kind of crazy too.

It is a fact that's not the whole potential cost savings but it's one huge piece of low hanging fruit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 06/11/2009
- Ohsnap I'm a Fan of Ohsnap 45 fans permalink

What drives private insurance companies is profits. They will not invest in people who will not turn them a profit. So we hear consistently how the private sector will force competition against the public sector (read: charter schools). So why can't this theory work in reverse? More people affording health insurance, the larger the pool--diluting the risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 06/11/2009
- kimleehan I'm a Fan of kimleehan 31 fans permalink

Insurance companies are'nt going to go broke, need to insure your car, your house, life insurance, they'll do alright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 06/11/2009
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