Activists: Obama Admin Falsely Claiming They Had To Defend Marriage Ban

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First Posted: 06-12-09 08:27 PM   |   Updated: 07-13-09 05:12 AM

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Ben Smith at Politico just reported the following statement from the Department of Justice over their brief, filed last night, comparing gay marriage to incest:

As it generally does with existing statutes, the Justice Department is defending the law on the books in court. The president has said he wants to see a legislative repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act because it prevents LGBT couples from being granted equal rights and benefits. However, until Congress passes legislation repealing the law, the administration will continue to defend the statute when it is challenged in the justice system.

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Ben Smith at Politico just reported the following statement from the Department of Justice over their brief, filed last night, comparing gay marriage to incest: As it generally does with existing sta...
Ben Smith at Politico just reported the following statement from the Department of Justice over their brief, filed last night, comparing gay marriage to incest: As it generally does with existing sta...
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I am a federal worker who has retired. My wife has no health insurance for one reason and one reason only.....because she is married to a woman. These are not benefits that are handouts. I worked long and hard at the Veterans Administration.
If we were an opposite se.x couple she would have insurance. Tell me how this is fair? Tell me that fix health care and she would have insurance. I say BS I say
fix DOMA and she would have insurance. I didn't work for the feds for 27 years to be crapped on when I voted for the man of CHANGE. The only change I see so far is a different man telling me I am less than. Shame on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/16/2009
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By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 10 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama plans to extend health care and other benefits to the gay and lesbian partners of federal employees. White House officials say Obama plans to announce decision on Wednesday in the Oval Office. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the president had not yet made the announcement.

The move would give partners of federal employees access to health care and financial benefits such as relocation fees for moves. Officials say Obama would detail more details of the decision on Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090617/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gay_benefits_3

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 06/16/2009
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The ranting from the so called "supporters" president are thin veiled composites of right wing big.ot pdressing up as POC to distract us from the conversation that truly needs to take place. WE need to not fall for this and instead work to educate and not allow the conversation to turn into a fake war between LGBT people and POC.
Please do not take their bait let them run back to O'Reilly site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 06/16/2009
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After much thought I have come to the conclusion that if we in the LGBT community continue to try and discuss these issues with the folks who are here mainly to cause strife between the LGBT community and people of color we will not move forward to true education.
These folks here claiming to be followers of O and supporters of the POC are the frauds. They are just here to cause friction and display their homo.phobia. I suggest we just ignore them and have our conversation, vent our frustration and let htem rant all they want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/16/2009
- x4faith I'm a Fan of x4faith 39 fans permalink
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Did I miss something during the past EIGHT YEARS!? Seems to me ALL of the groups are taking advantage of President Obama and are making FALSE CLAIMS against him! He's doing the best he can with what he has to work with! Lest they for get we are FIGHTING TWO WARS, A DOWNTURNED ECONOMY, THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER WITH IRAN, thanks to Bush/Cheney and NORTH KOREA! WTF...SIT DOWN and WAIT...It's NOT like you haven't been waiting EIGHT YEARS...What's a few months or another year going to hurt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 06/15/2009
- gaydm I'm a Fan of gaydm 8 fans permalink
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Well they better get busy, because they have all these gay issues they are going to fix as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 06/15/2009
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What is false in this article? I don't think you have a valid point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 06/15/2009

Wow. You're right. When you say it like that, it appears that Obama is completely justified in lying to the LGBT community to get their votes. How selfish of us to hold him to his campaign promises when there are straight people who clearly need to be taken care of first. Shame on us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 06/15/2009
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False claims that he said he would do away with DOMA and DADT?

Wow imagine that holding some one accountable is now see as taking advantage of. A friend of mine says the reason he thinks BHO is doing this is that he has massive gaydar and that he makes McGreevy look Het.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/16/2009
- x4faith I'm a Fan of x4faith 39 fans permalink
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Did I miss something during the past EIGHT YEARS!? Seems to me ALL of the groups are taking advantage of President Obama and are making FALSE CLAIMS against him! He's doing the best he can with what he has to work with! Lest they for get we are FIGHTING TWO WARS, A DOWNTURNED ECONOMY, THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER WITH IRAN, thanks to Bush/Cheney and NORTH KOREA! WTF...SIT DOWN and WAIT...It's NOT like you haven't been waiting EIGHT YEARS...What's a few months or another year going to hurt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 06/15/2009
- AnotherTry I'm a Fan of AnotherTry 53 fans permalink
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FU very much

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 06/15/2009
- Marnie1 I'm a Fan of Marnie1 36 fans permalink

Sure they have to make the court date and show up in court. That does not mean that they have make a presentation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 06/14/2009
- CindyV I'm a Fan of CindyV 6 fans permalink

I'm sick of my community being used as a political football. Democrat or Republican, it really doesn't matter who's in the White House for LGBT folks. It's the same old, same old. Many of us voted for Obama because he promised us a change. Some of us voted for him because voting for McCain was out of the question. Nevertheless, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 06/14/2009
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A gay/lesbian in this administration needs to use a calendar to point out to the president there is about 10 days before MILLIONS of our tribe gather in nearly every major city, to celebrate the 40th Anniversary of a 3 day RIOT.....just saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 06/14/2009
- zetacplus I'm a Fan of zetacplus 12 fans permalink
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I recommend all our gay brothers and sisters out there, and all our straight allies, contact the president and express your outrage at the position his administration took on DOMA, after he said he would work hard to repeal it. I've include the email link to the president.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 06/14/2009
- felisa11 I'm a Fan of felisa11 23 fans permalink

The president has said he wants to see a legislative repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act because it prevents LGBT couples from being granted equal rights and benefits. However, until Congress passes legislation repealing the law, the administration will continue to defend the statute when it is challenged in the justice system.

Can you not read and comprehend what you have read?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 06/14/2009
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He was under no obligation to defend it. The big problem isn't that the DOJ moved to defend it, it's that the brief itself is extremely damaging and frankly it's repulsive.

http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/choice-to-defend-doma-and-its.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/14/2009
- rharris513 I'm a Fan of rharris513 3 fans permalink

All the DOJ had to do was to motion to dismiss the suit on a technicality that the plaintiffs did not have legal standing. Instead he used all the inflammatory right-wing arguments that will greatly damage the case for LG BT equality more than any republican president ever has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 06/14/2009
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Comprehending the Obama DOJ brief and their excuses does not mean we have to think this was the right thing to do. It is immoral to defend an unjust, probably unconstitutional law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 06/15/2009
- zetacplus I'm a Fan of zetacplus 12 fans permalink
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I believe throwing us under the bus is a calculated move by Obama. He wants to appeal to a wider audience other than democrats, why?, who the F knows. He is courting the right, and in the process, stepping on the people who elected him. Yes, I know he is the president for all the people but when you make promises like he did and then go back on them, that's foul, especially for something that he knows we hold very dear to us. But the way I see it he probably feels that if he loses 3 million gay votes, he will gain 6 million right wing votes, a net gain for him. He's not a president of change, he's a president of numbers. All he has done so far is to give billions of dollars to criminal banks and corrupt CEO's at the taxpayers expense.

That's not change I can believe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 06/14/2009
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Actually, he's just flying by the seat of his pants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/14/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Its not right wing voters he is concerned about , its the church leaders and church groups in major cities that he has to appease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 06/29/2009
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America Blog has good coverage that one of the Obama Justice Dept lawyers is a Bush holdover, and MORMON...that explains the gratuitous foul homobigotted shots this hateful wretch stuck in the brief.

Another reason to continue the Boycott of Utah tourism, that will eventually hurt the Mormon mothership, and it'll be Utah residents telling them to MIND YOUR OWN BU$INE$$.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 06/14/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 132 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/14/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Out of the three political parties, only one is against the Defense of Marriage Act, yet the gay community votes with the party that supports the DOM act. Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 06/14/2009
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Because the risk of allowing the party that wants to prohibit gay rights for all states across the board is too great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 06/14/2009
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Last time I checked there are only really two viable parties. And if by "the party that supports the DOM act," you mean "the party that was in power when DOMA was passed," then the answer is because the candidate for that same party has promised to overturn it.

So... I'm not seeing where the confusion is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 06/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Obama does not support gay marriage. Biden voted for the DOM act. No confusion there. Its black and white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 06/27/2009
- demrepub I'm a Fan of demrepub 31 fans permalink
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Replace gay with black and would you Obama apologists honestly be as patient as you would like our gay brothers and sisters to be? Doubtful. So stop being Obama apologists on a position of such deep principle when you know HE IS WRONG ON DADT AND DOMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 06/14/2009
- Tanyars5 I'm a Fan of Tanyars5 105 fans permalink
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Gay struggles doesn't equal black people struggles so I would not compare the two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 06/14/2009
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The oppression of some is the oppression of all. Inviting a comparison is not saying they are exactly the same. No group has ownership of oppression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 06/14/2009
- Tanyars5 I'm a Fan of Tanyars5 105 fans permalink
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Those who call President Obama a fraud and a liar please be aware that people will respond. You don't own the blogoshere. If you want to criticize the man then do so with facts.
The thing I am happy to see is the influx of different opinions on this website. For months the commenters here were able to say whatever without much pushback.
I think people have had enough of the misinformation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 06/14/2009
- demrepub I'm a Fan of demrepub 31 fans permalink
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here here. The misinformation from the left has to be thwarted with facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 06/14/2009
- ReedYoung I'm a Fan of ReedYoung 132 fans permalink
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That's "hear, hear."

Q: Why can't you Republicans get ANYTHING right?
A: Inbreeding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 06/14/2009

Do you have an example of this?

I've never seen progressives
afraid to push.

And, do you not see the deep
irony in your suggesting that
the "critics" need to be silenced
by the "push back?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 06/14/2009
- Oakland I'm a Fan of Oakland 11 fans permalink
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Obama lies - and that's a surpise?

Republicans, Blue Dogs and corporate Democrats are the enemy. We need to speak softer and find a bigger stick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 06/14/2009
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