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Netanyahu Peace Speech: Israeli Prime Minister Appeals To Arab Leaders For Peace

JOSEF FEDERMAN   06/15/09 12:38 AM ET   AP

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JERUSALEM — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed a Palestinian state beside Israel for the first time on Sunday, reversing himself under U.S. pressure but attaching conditions such as having no army that the Palestinians swiftly rejected.

A week after President Barack Obama's address to the Muslim world, Netanyahu said the Palestinian state would also have to recognize Israel as the Jewish state _ essentially saying Palestinian refugees must give up the goal of returning to Israel.

With those conditions, he said, he could accept "a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state."

The West Bank-based Palestinian government dismissed the proposal.

"Netanyahu's speech closed the door to permanent status negotiations," senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat said. "We ask the world not to be fooled by his use of the term Palestinian state because he qualified it. He declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel, said refugees would not be negotiated and that settlements would remain."

Netanyahu, in an address seen as his response to Obama, refused to heed the U.S. call for an immediate freeze of construction on lands Palestinians claim for their future state. He also said the holy city of Jerusalem must remain under Israeli sovereignty.

The White House said Obama welcomed the speech as an "important step forward."

Netanyahu's address was a dramatic transformation for a man who was raised on a fiercely nationalistic ideology and has spent a two-decade political career criticizing peace efforts.

"I call on you, our Palestinian neighbors, and to the leadership of the Palestinian Authority: Let us begin peace negotiations immediately, without preconditions," he said, calling on the wider Arab world to work with him. "Let's make peace. I am willing to meet with you any time any place _ in Damascus, Riyadh, Beirut and in Jerusalem."

Since assuming office in March, Netanyahu has been caught between American demands to begin peace talks with the Palestinians and the constraints of a hardline coalition. On Sunday, he appeared to favor Israel's all-important relationship with the U.S. at the risk of destabilizing his government.

But his call for establishing a Palestinian state was greeted with lukewarm applause among the audience at Bar-Ilan University, known as a bastion of the Israeli right-wing establishment.

As Netanyahu spoke, two small groups of protesters demonstrated at the university's entrance.

Several dozen hard-liners held up posters showing Obama wearing an Arab headdress and shouted slogans against giving up West Bank territory. Across from them, a few dozen dovish Israelis and foreign backers chanted slogans including "two states for two peoples" and "stop the occupation."

Police kept the two groups apart.

The Palestinians demand all of the West Bank as part of a future state, with east Jerusalem as their capital. Israel captured both areas in the 1967 Mideast war.

Netanyahu, leader of the hardline Likud Party, has always resisted withdrawing from these lands, for both security and ideological reasons. In his speech, he repeatedly made references to Judaism's connection to the biblical Land of Israel.

"Our right to form our sovereign state here in the land of Israel stems from one simple fact. The Land of Israel is the birthplace of the Jewish people," he said.

But Netanyahu also said that Israel must recognize that millions of Palestinians live in the West Bank, and continued control over these people is undesirable. "In my vision, there are two free peoples living side by side each with each other, each with its own flag and national anthem," he said.

Netanyahu has said he fears the West Bank could follow the path of the Gaza Strip _ which the Palestinians also claim for their future state. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, and Hamas militants now control the area, often firing rockets into southern Israel.

"In any peace agreement, the territory under Palestinian control must be disarmed, with solid security guarantees for Israel," he said.

"If we get this guarantee for demilitarization and necessary security arrangements for Israel, and if the Palestinians recognize Israel as the state of the Jewish people, we will be willing in a real peace agreement to reach a solution of a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state," he said.

Netanyahu became the latest in a series of Israeli hard-liners to soften their positions after assuming office. Earlier this decade, then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon led Israel out of Gaza before suffering a debilitating stroke. His successor, Ehud Olmert, spoke eloquently of the need to withdraw from the West Bank, though a corruption scandal a disastrous war in Lebanon prevented him from carrying out that vision.

Netanyahu gave no indication as to how much captured land he would be willing to relinquish. However, he ruled out a division of Jerusalem, saying, "Israel's capital will remain united."

Netanyahu also made no mention of uprooting Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Nearly 300,000 Israelis live in the West Bank, in addition to 180,000 Israelis living in Jewish neighborhoods built in east Jerusalem. He also said that existing settlements should be allowed to grow _ a position opposed by the U.S.

"We have no intention to build new settlements or expropriate land for expanding existing settlements. But there is a need to allow residents to lead a normal life. Settlers are not the enemy of the nation and are not the enemy of peace _ they are our brothers and sisters," he said.

Netanyahu also said the Palestinians must recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The Palestinians have refused to do so, fearing it would amount to giving up the rights of millions of refugees and their descendants and discriminate against Israel's own Arab minority.

Although the Palestinians have agreed to demilitarization under past peace proposals, Erekat rejected it, saying it would cement Israeli rule over them.

Nabil Abu Rdeneh, another Palestinian official, called on the U.S. to challenge Netanyahu "to prevent more deterioration in the region."

"What he has said today is not enough to start a serious peace process," he added.

In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri called the speech "racist" and called on Arab nations "form stronger opposition" toward Israel. Hamas ideology does not recognize a Jewish state in an Islamic Middle East and the group has sent dozens of suicide bombers into Israel.

Netanyahu also came under criticism from within his own government _ a coalition of religious and nationalistic parties that oppose Palestinian independence.

Zevulun Orlev, a member of the Jewish Home Party, which represents Jewish settlers and other hard-liners, said Netanyahu's speech violated agreements struck when the government was formed. "I think the coalition needs to hold a serious discussion to see where this is headed," he told Israel Radio.

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Religion poisons everything.
11:20 PM on 06/21/2009
People fail to understand that Palestinians and Arabs for that matter will not agree upon anything else then the total removal of the Israeli state as is.

The J_ews have been an accustomed scapegoat for all Muslim misery, while in essence they evoke that misery upon themselves by abiding to the rules of Islamic law, which is extremely brutal, medieval and simply backwards.

Hamas gets tons of aid, yet they transform ambulances into assault vehicles. Use UN posts to launch rockets from.

The Arab world use the Palestinian people as a tool to keep constant unrest in the region. The non-existence of Israel is utopia and would be a fascist and inhumane act towards the people of Israel, who want to live in peace with their Arab citizens.

It is sickening to read so many apologists for Hamas, Hezbollah and Arab behaviour towards Israel and J_ews in general. Try, for once, to use clarity of thought and let go all those wacky conspiracy theories.
12:21 PM on 06/17/2009
Perspective: This is what Palestinian Arab REJECTED in 1947.
Map of Partition.
http://mideastweb.org/un_palestine_partition_map_1947.htm

What astonishing lack of political maturity!
08:39 AM on 06/18/2009
Please, you should not put yourself down so much. I'm sure there are some people, somewhere, who view you as politically mature. All you've done is embarrass yourself here.

Doesn't matter what happened in '47. We're in a new century and now matters. The Palestinains have repeatedly said they would accept peace when Israel goes back to the '67 borders.

Your way out of your league here. American Jews' willingness to support a harder U.S. line on Israel tracks with that of Democrats in general: A new poll shows that 71 percent of Obama supporters believe he should "get tough with Israel" to stop the expansion of settlements and that means stopping aid, the loans, the loan guarantees, and military aid.

But the Israel don't want peace, they want land. The nature of Zionist ambitions is likely to be ever harder to conceal, as is evident from the tide of opinion polls showing that Western publics, if not their governments, believe Israel to be one of the biggest threats to world peace.

Try to put the spin, prevarication, verbal juggling, hasbara and lies aside. It is time you realize that the Palestinians have at least as much right to the land of Palestine-Israel as Jews do.

You people have two choices, either give them citizenship and annex the West Bank and Gaza, or leave 100% of the West Bank and E. Jerusalem. Occupation and apartheid are not a choice. TIme is not working in your favor.
09:52 AM on 06/17/2009
There are many negotiation points between Israelis and Palestinian Arabs.
But the main constituency that Palestinains need to convince of their peaceful intention is Israeli electorate.Otherwise--no state. That includes Israelis of all faiths. It is an undefinable fact that one of the biggest fears Israeli Arabs have is to lose their Israeli citizenship and end up under Palestinian rule.
07:31 PM on 06/16/2009
Bibi's vision of peace remains unchanged. His vision of peace? Go back to his Newsweek interview April 20, 1998. "At the end of the final settlement, the Palestinians would have their own territory and the ability to govern themselves, but none of the powers that could threaten Israel."

Nothing, nothing has changed. Only Israel is destroying Israel. Bibi had the chance to make history and all he did was make more BS.

Cut the aid to Israel. Stop the tens of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money, huge amounts of military and weapons supplies for its various wars, and unyielding American diplomatic protection at the U.N. But as long as Israel remains dependent on the U.S. in countless ways, then Obama not only has the right -- but he has the obligation -- to demand that Israel cease activities which harm U.S. interests.

The world is growing tired of being blackmailed by a country that has an illegal nuclear arsenal capable of unimaginable destruction, a country which has no regard for international law, Geneva conventions, apartheid behavior, or their own terrorism with just under 500,000 human beings holding world peace hostage.

Why don't we put it to vote and see how many Americans and world citiznes want to continue supporting the world's biggest welfare client, Israel ?

Divest, sanction, and boycott Israel. Stop all aid to Israel. Now.
09:59 AM on 06/17/2009
"At the end of the final settlement, the Palestinians would have their own territory and the ability to govern themselves, but none of the powers that could threaten Israel."
Almost entire Middle East and the West supports this model for peaceful Palestinian state along side its neighbors. There is no way Jordanians, Israeli, Egyptians even Lebanese, would accept Palestinain entity with heavy weapons.
This was tried in Lebanon and led to total disaster . PLO was fully armed and caused untold suffering in the country. Lebanese don't talk about much, but they still remember.
Hence, denial of human rights to Palestinains by Hezbollah and other Lebanese factions.
07:34 PM on 06/17/2009
No, they don;t support that model, they support the Arab Peace Initiative and the Quartets Roadmap.

It is only Israel that can not accept any Middle Eastern country to have more military might than they do, it would surely threaten their hegemonic aspirations. You clearly have no clue and no basis for your rambling assertions that do not hold up to the facts as the rest of the world know them.

No one has caused more untold suffering that Israel. If you would like Lydia and I to start listing them just say the word. We'll start with the Palestinains, then Gaza, then Lebanon, then Syria, then the Palestinains....etc.
12:42 AM on 06/16/2009
One day there will be negotiations between Israel and Palestinains. And these negotiations wail ONLY come to a full agreement when Palestinians decide to reassure Israeli electorate of their peaceful intentions. And stop talking peace to the West and Israel in English and Jihad in Arabic. Fair or not fair.

One would think that after 70 years of fighting and being defeated with alarming regularity all over the Middle East, Palestinains will finally get the idea they ain't winning this militarily.
02:29 PM on 06/16/2009
BS.

The settlers are committing an ongoing crime that has ruined the lives of millions, and it is NOT in response to any Palestinians actions, but rather is born out of the racism and fanaticism of the settlers themselves.

The settlers would continue to ethnically cleanse the area even if the entire Palestinian people engaged in non violent protest to the apartheid and ethnic cleansing they are subjected to by the settlers and the occupation that make the settlements possible. Just as there was a war necessary to stop slavery in this country, there may be a civil war necessary to put an end to the settlers, who are fanatics who live off of the suffering of others just as the slavers did here before the civil war.
06:14 PM on 06/16/2009
The Palestinians plight is intolerable but they stayed instead of running away. After 70 years of Israel waging unprovoked wars against the neighborhood to fulfill their grand design of jewish expansionism across Arab land, the great jewish Empire is all but pipe dream and the Arabs are even more determined to rid themselves of the jewish ball and chain.

The great Israel army is but reduced to fighting a bunch of rag tag unarmed resistance fighters and shooting unarmed women and children at point blank range from helicopter gunship for its very survival.

Despite all the sophisticated US weapons and siege waged on the hapless Palestinians, ghettoized by Israel on strip of land Hamas, a progeny, has become a formidable resistance and is guaranteed to give you a ruddy hiding should you lose the US support and weapons. So be nice to the Americans, don’t pi** off your only benefactor.
09:28 AM on 06/17/2009
"The great Israel army is but reduced to fighting a bunch of rag tag unarmed resistance fighters...for its very survival."

Probably the most uninformed opinion on this thread to-date. And this is quite an achievement.
12:27 AM on 06/16/2009
Israel is an established and a powerful state. It is not run by Palestinians wish lists.
Palestine--small demilitarized state-- or none at all. This is the reality.
ALL states which would have to share the border with Palestinians reject outright the idea of Hamas and their ilk with a tank brigade

Jordan who suffered tremendously at the hands of Palestinian militants certainly will not have it. Neither would Egyptians who view Palestinian- Iranian axis as far, far greater danger to its stability than Israel.

As usual many Palestinians choose the wrong side-- this time its Iran.
Some years ago it was Hussein, before that its was Soviet Union. there's something fatalistic about such preponderance of always choosing the loosing side.
08:03 PM on 06/16/2009
Israel - established and powerful ? Bought and paid for by the US taxpayer.

NO states which would have to share the border with Palestinians have rejected the idea of Hamas and their ilk with a tank brigade. Hamas is a democratically electorate of the Palestinains people. All states who share a border with Israel reject outright all the illegal settlers and the bulldozing of Palestinains homes.

As usual many Israel chose the wrong side - this time is Bibi and Lieberman, some years ago it was Sharon, Peres, Begin..theres something fatalistic about such preponderance of always choosing the loosing side.
12:18 PM on 06/17/2009
"NO states which would have to share the border with Palestinians have rejected the idea of Hamas "
This opinion demonstrates an alarming unfamiliarity with current reality
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Ahmed Al-Jarallah, editor-in-chief of Kuwait Arab Times newspaper
" People of Arab countries, especially the Lebanese and Palestinians, have been held hostage for a long time in the name of "resisting Israel"... Forgetting the interests of their own countries the Hamas Movement and Hezbollah have gone to the extent of representing the interests of Iran and Syrian in their countries. These organizations have become the representatives of Syria and Iran without worrying about the consequences of their action."
12:19 PM on 06/17/2009
Hizbollah and Hamas were partly responsible for hundreds of innocent deaths in 2006 and 2008 respectively. "Why don't you condemn Israel?" Typically, talking about a crime by an Arab leader in the Middle East, one will almost always end up talking about other concerned parties. It seems to be a special built-in ability to auto-dodge accountability. No one ever admits responsibility in the Arab states and no one is ever held accountable (unless he is toppled, that is).
Sultan Sooud Al-Qassemi

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sultan-sooud-alqassemi/a-waltz-with-president-al_b_193382.html
08:27 PM on 06/15/2009
Bibi is a mess. His foolhardy demand that Jerusalem remain “undivided.” ? So where does the capital of a Palestinian state go? In Ramallah? Would Bibi agree to housing Israel’s capital in Beersheva?

Natural growth.There is no universal rule that towns must expand so extended families of several generations can live together, nor that families that have lots and lots of children must be allowed to endlessly build on to their homes.

Imagine if that were the case in towns across the US. Neighborhood zoning laws would become obsolete.

And of course that is not the case in Arab neighborhoods and towns inside of Israel's border, where extended families and large families have little or any room to grow and are given no attention by the authorities in Israel.

Natural growth is an explicit acknowledgement of Israel's unwillingness to negotiate on the settlement issue except on Israel's terms. This is unacceptable.

Preconditions? What he meant of course is that the Arab states shouldn’t have any preconditions. Only Israel is entitled to them.

One can only hope Obama moves quickly and strongly to challenge the Prime Minister’s old, tired, and condescending ideas.

Starting negotiations over a new set of conditions before taking action on a previous set is not progress.

Bibi's claim the Palestinian state must be defined in Israel's interests demonstrates that he has no concept or respect for Palestinian self-determination.

Cut US aid. Sanction and divest. Now.
12:32 AM on 06/16/2009
Arab states are in accord with Israel rejecting militarized Palestine.

demilitarized Palestine or none at all. The rest is just empty talk that's been going on for 60 years. With ZERO results.
07:13 PM on 06/16/2009
No their not and especially not in 'accord' with Israel. Your delusional again and all your wishful thinking will not make it so. They recognize the Arab Peace Initiative. Palestine will be demiliterized when Israel is demiliterized.

The zero results are because Israel cannot be trusted when negotiating. The double standards and hypocrisy between what Israel tries to present itself as (a bastion of democracy in a hostile world of terror) and what it actually practices (the subjugation and terrorizing of the Palestinian people) are the biggest issue. Period.

Until Israel comes to the table and accepts international law the world had every right to reject their BS conditions.

The truth and time are not on your side and the long term intentions of the Israels, so carefully hidden all these decades by pointing the finger and whining their victim rhetoric at the Palestinains is over. The biggest rejectionist and obstructionist to peace has been Israel.
05:35 PM on 06/15/2009
Distortion:
There is no Palestine.

Correction:
One-hundred and four states recognize the State of Palestine, and 22 more grant some form of diplomatic status to a Palestinian delegation, falling short of full diplomatic recognition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Palestinian_National_Authority
10:47 AM on 06/16/2009
This is laughable. Even Palestinains THEMSELVES recognize that they have no state.
01:50 PM on 06/15/2009
Jews immigrated to Palestine, a region of Ottoman Empire and British controlled territory. Worked hard transforming a sleepy corner of the empire.
And then organized to form a state out of the ashes of colonialism. As did many other states in the Middle East.

Palestinian Arabs chose NOT to declare statehood. Instead they invited foreign invaders ( Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan). They have been paying the price of that disastrous decision ever since.
07:33 PM on 06/15/2009
Lets be very clear here: a bunch of Europeans and Russians decided that a mythological book of ancient fables granted them the right to kick the native Palestinians off their land.

israelis are a band of white imperialist fanatic colonizers who believe their god made some sort of real estate deal with them and whom the US must protect them from the hordes of unarmed, starving, humiliated and oppressed Palestinians.

Using some fairytale religious text that tells them they're superior as a basis for foreign policy, nation creation and war is madness.

We have no moral obligation to Israel whatsoever. It was a nation created illegally in a nation already populated by people who had been there for thousands of years. The Zionists want land, they want total domination of the region, the holy sites, they want all of Jerusalem and all of Palestine and all of Lebanon.

Israel is just a European colony that got enough guns to steal their neighbor's land and resources, then claim that they were occupying the land because they were the "people without a land."

And since they drove out the Palestinians, they took the Palestinian's land and said it was a "land without a people." I don't give a crap if the Palestinains didn't declare statehood it doesn't give Israel the right to steal their land.
12:42 AM on 06/16/2009
Spinning ancient canards is no substitute for mature thinking.
12:57 AM on 06/16/2009
So you are saying that all of Israel is Palestinian's?
11:51 AM on 06/15/2009
It is a fact that Jordanians, Lebanese, Kuwaitis, Egyptians and others have collectively evicted hundred of thousands of Palestinian militants and fifth columnists from their countries.For a very good reason. And they are not about to allow the return of the same
to their borders.
Small peaceful Palestinian state, or none at all. When Palestinians will abandon their revanchist dreams there will a possibility for peace.
07:39 PM on 06/15/2009
Bibi wants a "limited" Palestinian state but are unwilling to:

1. Limit Israeli weapons
2. Acknowledge you have nuclear warheads and are willing to dispose of them, join and sign the NNPT followed by regular IAEA inspections.
3. Limit immigration of Jews to Israel within the pre-1967 boundaries.
4. Stop stealing water from the Jordan river and other aqueducts.
5. Abide by outstanding UN Resolutions.
6. Immediately cease and remove all illegal settlements from the West Bank.
7 Remove the illegal wall that has been erected on Palestinian land.

Would Israel agree to these terms and being demilitarized? Didn't think so.

No speech that Bibi delivers can provide the boost he’s looking for because he doesn’t have a viable vision of how to make peace with the Palestinians.

We’re in a new day and a new century. Bibi keeps digging that hole, with all those non viable conditions and eventually he’s going to fall in. And then maybe we can make some real progress if Israel can formulate a more pragmatic government.

In sum contradictions and double standards at every turn.
01:06 AM on 06/16/2009
Except that Abbas didn't ask for that as his demands. You don't speak for Palestinians. Iam Palestinian and you don't speak for me. Palestinians have been held captive by Arab governments who don't care about us. They only use us for war against the Israelis. Jordan and Egypt invaded our land then wouldn't give it to their Palestinian brothers. In 1948, we were told to flee Palestine so we wouldn't be slaughtered by the Arab armies. The Arab states wouldn't even allow us citizenship and put us in refugee camps.

When I went to school the map didn't have Israel on the map. We were told that Jihad is the only way to make sure the Middle East is only Muslim.

I have Muslim freinds that live in Israel and love it. They would never want to leave. They say they have real democratic rights. Many of my freinds that are Muslim want to volunteer for the Israeli Defence Force because they want to contribute to a state that cares for them.
11:49 AM on 06/15/2009
Bibi states his initial negotiation point .Abu Mazen stated his.
Now the souk bargaining his begin.
Never discount the ability of two Middle Easterners to bargain.
07:35 PM on 06/15/2009
No worries, Bibi's speech was literally a no-brainer and a non-starter.

Rather than joining the international consensus and leading Israel to peace, the Israeli PM chose to stay trapped in his old ideology, treading water. The timid acknowledgement that he gave to a two-state solution is useless. It is a non-starter and he knows it.

He can't be serious. What country would give up the right to be able to defend themselves? Who does Israel think they are? Is that the best solution he could come up with? Stop building and tear down the settlements, agree to a two state solution, make peace, you are an island in the middle of the sea, if people here in the states loose patience, and take away the check and the military Israel is done.
04:46 AM on 06/16/2009
That just it you are as Middle Eastern as my left foot

"It is my considered opinion that the State of Israel is a racist state in the full meaning of this term: In this state people are discriminated against, in the most permanent and legal way and in the most important areas of life, only because of their origin. This racist discrimination began in Zionism and is carried out today mainly in co-operation with the institutions of the Zionist movement."
—Dr. Israel Shahak
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09:05 AM on 06/15/2009
What makes Netanyahu think it is his right to determine Palestinian Governance of their own state? He needs to stop Israeli's from encroaching on Palestinian territory, rather than be calling for what kind of government Palestinians are 'allowed' to have.
11:56 AM on 06/15/2009
There's no such thing as Palestinian territory. ALL of it is disputed territory open to negotaition. Palestinains, due reasons of utter inability to self-govern, corruption, terrorism and disastrous mistakes in the past must be helped towards independence by more politically mature and sober parties like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and U.S.
04:15 PM on 06/15/2009
Fanatical Zionism is a threat to world peace. You can see it right in this guy's postings.
08:33 AM on 06/15/2009
Netanyahu did well to deliver his impassioned plea for peace from the Sadat-Begin Center for Peace in Jerusalem. For it brings to mind and helps us recall the real way to peace in the Middle East for Arabs and Israeli Jews. It reminds us of an Arab Moslem leader, Anwar Sadat, who found the courage and strength to break with the hatred and bigotry of his race and make peace, real peace, with Israel by marching into Jerusalem and accepting her right to exist as a Jewish State. Outside of Sadat's heroic example there is no other way to peace between Arabs and Israelis in the region. There is no "two state solution" of "three state solution" for resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict; there is only one solution, Sadat's solution of first making peace with Israel as the basis for everything else. No peace, no Palestinian State, it's that simple. Unless Israel finds a real peace partner, a Palestinian Anwar Sadat, a Palestinian State existing in peace beside Isreal is the pipedream of fools.

Those who think there's another way to peace are deluding themselves. And among the delusional is Barack Obama who never once mentioned Sadat's example in his "historic" speech from Cairo where Sadat was brutally murdered. Never once did he mentioned this great peacemaker as if he never existed, as if his great sacrifice of paying for peace with his life didn't count. "Blessed are the peacemakers" says the Bible. Unfortunately, Obama isn't one of them.
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11:04 AM on 06/15/2009
So Sadat bowed to Israel,what did he or the palestinians get in return ....more land grabbing.Not only Sadat was murdered;remember Rabin?Only to show you that extremists exist on both sies.Avigdor Lieberman is a contemporary extremist unwilling to evacuate the colonized lands .How convenient for you to forget Rabin.
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08:29 AM on 06/15/2009
It would be convenient and fair of the entire middle east would be disarmed ,not only the future palestinian state .That includes Israel too .Of course that would be very inconvenient for the armament lobbies everywhere but that is just a lucky by product .All money spent on weapons only diminishes budgets spent on consumer goods and thus enhance frictions within societies .Start imagining how the living conditions of the bulk of your own people could be improved if the USA didn't spend half of the world's budget on armament.What an improvement that would be on the budgets for health care,education and culture .These principles apply everywhere of course.The available technology and budgets could also be used in fighting a much more threatening prospect:global warming .THis way it would cost nothing and nobody would loose his or her job in the process.
01:35 PM on 06/15/2009
Disarmament is a laudable idea. And will happen some day. Meanwhile back to reality....
07:40 PM on 06/15/2009
Yea, starting with Israel.
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08:18 AM on 06/15/2009
Where is this islam republic of belgium ?I'm from belgium,it's a constitutional monarchy (the king is just a matter of protocol,islam holds no power ,catholicism is the ruling religion,if ever there was to exist such thing .
I'll take good notice however that Nethanyahu has said very little regarding the jewish settlements . And not much on Jerusalem either .Flexibility seems to be asked from the palestinians but not from Israel.