Jobless Lose Food Stamps Because Of $25 Stimulus Check

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Jobless Lose Food Stamps Because Of $25 Stimulus Check stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

AP/Huffington Post   |  MATT APUZZO
First Posted: 06-15-09 02:36 PM   |   Updated: 06-15-09 03:50 PM

I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Stimulus Food Stamps

WASHINGTON — When President Barack Obama increased unemployment benefits as part of his economic stimulus, he also made some Americans ineligible for hundreds of dollars a month in food stamps.

Under the economic recovery plan, laid-off workers have seen a $25 weekly bump in their unemployment checks as part of a broad expansion of benefits for the poor. But the law did not raise the income cap for food stamp eligibility, so the extra money has pushed some people over the limit.

Laid-off workers and state officials are only now realizing the quirk, a consequence of pushing a $787 billion, 400-page bill through Congress and into law in three weeks.

And for people hurt by the change, there's no way around it.

"Everybody tells you, 'Yeah, I can understand why you're frustrated. It doesn't sound right.' But nobody knows where to go," said Mark Milota, 47, of Marietta, Ga., who was laid off in November from his job at a medical billing company.

The Georgia Department of Human Resources explained in a letter to him last month that, because of the stimulus, he was ineligible for food stamps. He now makes $1,538 a month _ $21 too much for a family of two to qualify.

"We have to pay him that $25 a week," said Brenda Brown, assistant commissioner at the Georgia Department of Labor. "And he doesn't have the option not to accept it."

Milota said he was told that, without the stimulus money, he would have received about $300 a month in food stamps.

Story continues below
advertisement

"I'm doing things I've never done before: I'm going to food pantries. I've gone to places for assistance on bills," Milota said. "Some bills are just not being paid. I'm three months behind on my mortgage."

Unemployment benefits vary by state and the income cap for food stamps also varies based on family size, so it's impossible to say for certain how many people are hurt by the change. Government officials believe it is only a small fraction of the record 6.8 million people on unemployment. Many more people will benefit from a stimulus law that expanded unemployment and food stamp benefits.

"We've gotten some questions about this. Not tons and tons, but we have been getting questions about this," said Jean Daniel, a spokeswoman for the Department of Agriculture, which overseas the food stamp program now known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

When cases like Milota's began popping up in Iowa recently, officials called Washington, asking what to do.

"We were told we were interpreting the food stamp regulations correctly," said Roger Munns, spokesman for the Iowa Department of Human Services. "Once you're over the income limit, regardless of the reason, you're no longer eligible."

Once handed out as paper vouchers, food stamps are now delivered to people near the poverty level through debit cards that they can use to buy food. A record 32.5 million people participate in the program. Once the government determines someone is eligible, officials use a formula to calculate the monthly benefit, which ranges from $16 to $588. The average is about $111.

Because those close to the income limit tend to get less money in food stamps, Munns said most people who are bumped out of the program by the extra $100 in unemployment benefits each month will break even or fare just slightly better. But the stimulus checks were intended to ease the effects of the recession, not simply cancel out another government assistance program.

Lawmakers crafting the stimulus knew this would become a problem, said Stacy Dean, director of food assistance policy at Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal think tank. They could have headed it off by raising the income tax or declaring that the $25 stimulus checks would not affect food stamp eligibility. Both were expensive options that could have forced states to reprogram their computer systems.

But more importantly, hashing out those details would have taken time.

"People were aware of this but, as you recall, the stimulus was moving along and then it was passed in about a day," Dean said. "There was not a lot of policy discussion on this."

Milota said he had never been on food stamps before and resisted applying for months, believing he would find a job. But that has proved difficult. When he applied for a customer service job recently, he said the company told him there were 1,000 applicants.

The stimulus law was intended not just as a jolt to the economy but also to ease the burden on people in Milota's situation. Besides unemployment benefits, the law also increased food stamp benefits _ just not the income cap.

"I truly believe when it came out, they felt it was to help people, and they never wanted to hurt people," said Milota, who says he leans Republican but voted for Obama.

Officials in Washington say they're aware of stories like this. Changing things, however, requires changing the law. States could do this one by one, or Congress could do so.

"This is not something the president or this agency could do independently," Daniel, the Agriculture Department spokeswoman, said.

HuffPost readers: Did you lose hundreds in food stamp benefits over a $25 weekly bump in unemployment benefits? Tell us about it -- email arthur@huffingtonpost.com.

Get HuffPost Politics On Facebook and Twitter!

WASHINGTON — When President Barack Obama increased unemployment benefits as part of his economic stimulus, he also made some Americans ineligible for hundreds of dollars a month in food stamps. ...
WASHINGTON — When President Barack Obama increased unemployment benefits as part of his economic stimulus, he also made some Americans ineligible for hundreds of dollars a month in food stamps. ...
Loading...
 
 
Comments
94
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 Next › Last » (3 pages total)
- Flavor I'm a Fan of Flavor 90 fans permalink

HuffPost bloggers, help a sista out, most of these people who are now getting unemployment are our middleclass and this man said it took him awhile to apply for them, meaning he's a man that tried his best to find work, okay he gets the $25 dollor stimulus per unemployment check and he has to buy gas that has gone up, food that has gone up, utilities that have gone up, children that are out of school for the summer and that means trying to feed them, and some I know will disagree with me but that ain't fair, these are people who suffer the most they make too much to get help on the bills and they bring home to little to pay all the bills this man ain't no begger he needs a helping hand he has been working and he is decent and he's lost his job, let him have the foodstamps he ain't trying to rob the system our middle class people are hurting, they were once the ones giving to the pantries, they were the ones who gave to the homeless, they were the ones who helped at the shelters, now who will help them. I don't mind my tax money going to help them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 06/15/2009
- bluevase I'm a Fan of bluevase 9 fans permalink

Sorry, the middle class doesn't suffer the most. The poor still suffer the most.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 06/15/2009
- Flavor I'm a Fan of Flavor 90 fans permalink

Thats true, but the fact remains that the middleclass gave a lot to the poor, it sure wasn't the rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 06/15/2009

Well, had everyone been given a chance to actually read the bill and given the opportunity to discuss it, someone may have noticed the problem. It might have been corrected. But when things get rushed through, problems arise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 06/15/2009
- DinkSinger I'm a Fan of DinkSinger 11 fans permalink

Except the problem was not in the bill. The problem is the gross income test in the existing food stamp (now called SNAP) law. The gross income test goes back to the first round of Regan budget cuts in 1981 when it was adopted to cut off food stamps to 4.5% of the recipients. It creates a cliff. Your income can go up by a penny a month and you lose all your SNAP benefits. Without it, benefits would phase out (and in) gradually as net income changes with a 30 cent change in benefits per dollar change in net income.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 06/16/2009
photo

Wow, just wow. One more reason to start voting for third party candidates. Dems have this incredible opportunity to get things right and do good in the face of Republican failure and not one single person who created the stimulus package or signed off on it considered that giving people a few dollars more in unemployment would negate their food stamp priveleges?

I guess those lines in the legislation were lost on all the congressmen who didn't bother to read it in the first place. I'm telling you man, our government is incompetent, indifferent, corrupt and we need a whole new brand of people in there running the show. I won't vote for Dem or Republican any more in my life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/15/2009
- Rogan I'm a Fan of Rogan 33 fans permalink

The way the Food Stamp benefits are set up, is the problem, and the expression of negligent incompentence. The stimulus just brought it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 06/16/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 61 fans permalink
photo

We elected these politicians to make these hard decisions. The voices of the American majority was heard. This is the result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 06/15/2009
- Brute I'm a Fan of Brute 63 fans permalink

It's called "empathy".............and "change".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/15/2009
- benren I'm a Fan of benren 6 fans permalink

AmeriCorps' "stipend" is not counted as income for Food Stamps (see: http://www.americorps.gov/about/newsroom/commcenter_detail.asp?tbl_pr_id=697).

As well, funds received by individuals age 55 and over provided by the Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP) under Title V of the Older Americans Act, will be excluded as income when determining Food Stamp eligibility (as amended by P. L. 100-175, Section 166).

VA disability compensation IS considered income when determining Food Stamp eligibility.

George Orwell got it exactly right in "Animal Farm," when he said: "All pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others."

That's how it is with Uncle Sam. Sometimes, as here, receipt of a measly $25 per month will cost someone to lose hundreds of dollars in Food Stamps, and sometimes you can RECEIVE many hundreds of dollars of real money, and it will count as ZILCH, NADA for purposes of Food Stamp eligibility.

Go figure!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 06/15/2009
- factotem I'm a Fan of factotem 161 fans permalink
photo

Oh big government.... you function so well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/15/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
photo

Now this is the same government folks want to take over our health care.
Remember one of the scariest things a person can hear is " We are from the Government and We are Here to Help You".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 06/15/2009
photo

Correction: this is from the same government folks who want for-profit business to take over our health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/15/2009
- Diana I'm a Fan of Diana 13 fans permalink

Republicans have been repeating reagan's mantra to scare people since the 80s. The obvious fact is, it's WHO runs government programs that matter. For example, you get a wealthy neocon horsetrader to run FEMA, you get a total horror show when hurricanes hit. You get a phony cowboy from connecticut, who never worked a real job in his life and couldn't think his way out of a paper bag, to screw up the country, and the pubs STILL claim it's government, and not the people in it, which is the problem

As long as people who want to serve in government need to raise millions of dollars to run for office, we'll have a government that does not represent what's best for the people of America, only what's best for those who 'pay to play.'

Campaign finance reform is the most important ways to ensure we get the government we deserve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 06/15/2009
- marxmarv I'm a Fan of marxmarv 25 fans permalink
photo

One might argue we already are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 06/15/2009
- quiviran I'm a Fan of quiviran 26 fans permalink

To quote Pogo: "We have met the enemy, and he is us!" When do we accept that "Government" is the collective will of the people, as implemented by those we choose to put in office. If we are to fear the "Government" we must either fear ourselves or fear those we have chosen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 06/15/2009

dennisrs.....has anyone told you lately that you are a M O R O N....Quoting Raygun will not get you anywhere when American's good hard working Americans are losing their jobs their home and their dignity...when you get to see a doctor on the healthcare plans NOW still doesn't mean a darn thing....grow up and use you B R A I N... SO we don't have to do it for you..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 06/15/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
photo

I guess I am just a believer in less government. I don't want to live a "Nanny" state.

Also don't understand why your ilk always revert to name calling when someone disagrees with you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 06/16/2009
- dennisrs I'm a Fan of dennisrs 32 fans permalink
photo

The quote is older than Reagan. Champ.
I tried to leave a message before but is was deleted by the monitors I guess for calling you the same name you called me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 06/16/2009
- bluevase I'm a Fan of bluevase 9 fans permalink

No, the scariest thing is to hear an insurance middle man tell you that the treatment you need. is no covered. This has happened to me many times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 06/15/2009
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 22 fans permalink

Anyone from the private sector there to help? The voters don't want the government to help, they elect governors who would rather their people starve than take money for unemployment compensation from Washington. Good government would correct the problem in no time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 06/15/2009
- blkbtrfly1 I'm a Fan of blkbtrfly1 11 fans permalink
photo

Wow. That's messed up. Talk about the law of unintended consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 06/15/2009
- jordan3189 I'm a Fan of jordan3189 20 fans permalink

More change we can believe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 06/15/2009
- thaneb I'm a Fan of thaneb 13 fans permalink
photo

ANOTHER misleading HuffPost headline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 06/15/2009

What is misleading about the headline?...they also have to pay taxes on the increase! Thanks Obama....give me $25.00 and take $50

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 06/15/2009
- Solja I'm a Fan of Solja 117 fans permalink
photo

That is not true. The $25 stimulus money is not taxed. In fact, they have suspended all tax on unemployment in MD, where I receive my unemployment benefits from. You lie unnecessarily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/15/2009
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 52 fans permalink

it's true, my mother who helps support my mentally retarded brother just told me yesterday, that he got a $25.00 raise in his unemployement and it kicked him off food stamps. She's on a very fixed income, and because of his handicapp he works for very low wages. His company only has him working one day a week because of the economy hence the need for the food stamps. She was very upset and not sure what to do. Now we will help, but my husband isn't working full time either, but it will all work out. It's just silly though, that good intentions end up hurting people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 06/15/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 45 fans permalink
photo

A real simple common sense fix would be to temporarily raise the income limit son food stamps receipt. It is and amendment thing, allot needed to be done quickly, and believe me, without al the stuff in the bill, he'd get his stamps but less unemployment cash. Go figure.
I’m not mad, just would have liked more in-depth reporting on the actually contents of the stimulus bill than all the dr no's is it enuff is nit working garbage.
Good reporting could have found this item and assisted readers and legislators, but no, it was only criticized.
When the bump in unemployment is over his eligibility will increase.
Or lawmakers will have to temporarily amend the food stamp income levels.
Whatever, it is never enough and prob needs to be indexed to inflation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 06/15/2009
- Solja I'm a Fan of Solja 117 fans permalink
photo

The whole stimulus bill was posted on this website and HuffPost asked readers, ie, citizens, to go through it and point of things. I have a full copy on my computer that I don't intend to ever read (the entire thing, that is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/15/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 40 fans permalink

Send your note of thanks to the Congress who knew what they were doing when they passed the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 06/15/2009
- DJ23 I'm a Fan of DJ23 14 fans permalink
photo

This is a BS article. What happened to the AP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 06/15/2009
photo

This is nothing new...Families that rec'v food stamps have faced decrease in benefits for the slightest raise in income ...Which causes them lose much more than the slight gain income!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 06/15/2009
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 Next › Last » (3 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect