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First Posted: 06-15-09 01:11 PM   |   Updated: 07-16-09 05:12 AM

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President Obama walked into the lion's den on Monday, delivering a lengthy speech on his approach to health care reform in front of the annual gathering of the American Medical Association. But he did not dodge the major issue of contention -- the role the government will play in remaking the insurance market.

"The public option is not your enemy, it is your friend," Obama declared at one point.

His prepared remarks were a bit more detailed:

If you don't like your health coverage or don't have any insurance, you will have a chance to take part in what we're calling a Health Insurance Exchange.... You will have your choice of a number of plans that offer a few different packages, but every plan would offer an affordable, basic package. And one of these options needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market so that force waste out of the system and keep the insurance companies honest.

The crowd, comprised of members of the nation's largest physician community, received those remarks with slightly less enthusiasm than other points of the president's lengthy address, including Obama's insistence that insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions, his nod towards the need for medical malpractice reform, and his touting of legislation that would discourage smoking among the nation's youth.

But the discussion of the public plan didn't end there.

"Now, I know there's some concern about a public option," Obama declared. "In particular, I understand that you are concerned that today's Medicare rates will be applied broadly in a way that means our cost savings are coming off your backs. These are legitimate concerns, but ones, I believe, that can be overcome. As I stated earlier, the reforms we propose are to reward best practices, focus on patient care, not the current piece-work reimbursement. What we seek is more stability and a health care system on a sound financial footing. And these reforms need to take place regardless of what happens with a public option..."

The comments about a public option were some of the most widely anticipated of Obama's address. One week earlier, the AMA had expressed its opposition to a public plan before gently backing off their initial critiques. The concerns among its 250,000 physician members are over salary cuts and administrative requirements that could come with greater government involvement in the insurance industry.

There is also a general fear that a public option could be a gateway toward a single-payer system, something that the president dismissed during Monday's speech.

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"What are not legitimate concerns are those being put forward claiming a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system," he said. I'll be honest. There are countries where a single-payer system may be working. But I believe -- and I've even taken some flak from members of my own party for this belief -- that it is important for us to build on our traditions here in the United States. So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I'm trying to bring about government-run health care, know this -- they are not telling the truth."

There is some confusion over just what kind of public plan AMA could support, but for those intricately involved in the health care fight, it seems likely to that the plan would have to be vastly watered-down.

"If a public plan is designed so as to satisfy the AMA, it is very unlikely to be able to serve the general aims of long-term cost containment," said Paul Starr, a Professor of Sociology and Public Affairs at Princeton University. "The AMA won't just want guarantees of higher rates than Medicare in the short run; it will want protection against the potential that a large public plan could enroll the great majority of people and exercise the kind of countervailing power in the market that would greatly restrain physician fees in the future."

That said, there is a bit more optimism today than last week that the White House could eventually win over the group's support.

"My wife read what the AMA clarifying statement was and neither one of us had an objection," former Gov. Howard Dean, told the Huffington Post. "There wasn't much in there. It did not say we opposed the public option. It did say the public option should have certain aspects in it that don't hurt the practice of medicine. That is something I understand. The American Medical Association is straddling a very difficult line."

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One of the major problems vexing those that would provide universal medical coverage in the US is that the current multi-faceted approach to paying for health care would need to be scraped with many of the plans being proposed. That is a huge infrastructure to dismantle and much of the health care system that is in place today is based on free market components. Many would argue that the presence of competition for service has helped the US provide some of the best care in the world. I don’t think anyone feels that we are doing a good job of distributing that care uniformly across our population. What I am proposing is a plan that does not require retooling the healthcare infrastructure, and yet provides uniform basic health care for all Americans. The basic idea is to provide every citizen with an allotment of health care credits that could be used just like cash. Those credits would be guaranteed to be sufficient to purchase basic health care insurance (like Medicare Part D), or the credits could be used for fee-based services. The choice of how the credits would be spent would be left with the health care consumer. I propose paying for these credits through an income and payroll tax that would be very similar to the Social Security taxes are collected. The ratio of employer and employee could be adjusted based on the political or economic negotiations that will have to take place.

Please give your feedback.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 07/10/2009

Are you a healthcare professional who is committed to a robust public health plan option? Please join us in petitioning Congress!

www.docsforapublicplanoption.org

We are a diverse group of healthcare professionals and students of the health professions that support the choice of a public health insurance plan as an essential component of comprehensive health care reform this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 06/17/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

Obama: '...So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I'm trying to bring about government-run health care, know this -- they are not telling the truth.;

This is disgusting. Obama, before he ran for president, did strongly advocate for government-run health care. He now is pandering to the loudest voices -- again! -- the so-called health care industry. This industry has profits of over a trillion dollars a year. it takes that money off the backs of American citizens, many of whom it jettisons because they aren't lucrative. Disgusting that Obama backs off when AMA, which represents less than 1/3 of doctors (and many of those don't even agree with AMA), decides he should.

WHO is on the health care committee in the Senate and Congress and what are their connections to drug companies and health care industry companies? Chris Dodd, head of a committee on health care, and Max Bacchus, and others take enormous amounts of money from this industry* -- this is a conflict of interest so blatant as to almost be laughable if people weren't dying every day for lack of medical care. Shame on them. Shame on Obama for not demanding that they recuse themselves from any influence over health care bills. (*See DemocracyNow.org today for details on Congresspersons' conflicts of interest.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 06/16/2009
- gino618 I'm a Fan of gino618 46 fans permalink

When the majority of undertakings by the Government either result in inefficiency, failure, or costs that far exceed what they initially promised, I find it amazing that many think the Government is the answer when it comes to health care.

What makes you think that THIS will be any different? We already see major waste, fraud and failure in the stimulus project - but you all want to pin your hopes that they can handle health care...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 06/16/2009
- jme-SD I'm a Fan of jme-SD 15 fans permalink

With health care we already have a nightmare. That's what's so crazy about the Democrats on this. We have a major problem and the action of implementing a public option would satisfy 62% plus of the electorate. It would be the best political move they could possibly make. To make a huge dent in solving a crisis that impacts millions that 62% of the people would support. Any politician - Democrat or Republican - should drool at supporting this. There isn't enough emphasis being made on the political upside by everyone who wants this.

Pass it with the House votes and 51 Senators and let the Republicans cry in their beer for missing an opportunity that will cost them the election in 2010.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

It's too bad that you only see this issue as a political one. Sounds like you could care less abut the issue as long as you win the 2010 election. Pathetic!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 06/16/2009
- gino618 I'm a Fan of gino618 46 fans permalink

Virtually every politician sees this and other major issues as political....

You think 'amnesty' for illegal aliens is because they all care so much for them? No - it's to increase the Democratic voting roles.

You think universal health care is because they actually give a darn about everyday American's health concerns? No - it's because they receive tons of money from whatever interest is going to benefit from their plans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 06/16/2009

I agree that the Health care system is awful! The Need for more Evident based practice is great. Currenlty providers are unable to prescribe the medication needed because it is not covered by their insurance. The education system for MD's and NP's is completely tainted with pharmaceutical company that want to make money. There are not enought providers because its already a buisenss that is really not lucrative, and the fear is great of being sued!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

I totally agree with your comments. Many medications, especially new ones that may be more effective are not covered. Brand names are not covered. Office staff spends hours on the phone with insurance companies getting approval for a medication that the doctor prescribed, only to be denied. If something happens to this patient, the doctor gets sued. Ridiculous!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 06/16/2009
- gino618 I'm a Fan of gino618 46 fans permalink

The Congressional Budget Office states that Obama's plan will cost $1 Trillion dollars over the next 10 years and still leave 30 million uninsured.

The utopian plan you all think is coming is a nightmare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

I heard today on the excellent coverage of health care on Democracynow.org that Kennedy's plan will still leave over 30 million uncovered, while adding only a few million. Kennedy, his representatives, and Obama should stand on the inclusion of a public plan or national health care plan which would cover anyone who cannot afford to pay for health insurance (which anyway so frequently has such gaps in their coverage that people lose their homes in order to pay when they have serious emergencies). This is unconscionable. Anything less than health care for everybody -- which most of the civilized world has -- is wrong wrong wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 06/16/2009
- Horus45 I'm a Fan of Horus45 32 fans permalink
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What the Republicans fail to see is that a "Private Plan" IS the COMPROMISE for the Majority of this Nation that want Single Payer!

Obama needs to point this out to them and if they refuse to back a "Private Plan" then we might as well go for a Single Payer Plan if we are going to have to do it without Republican support anyway!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

Absolutely correct!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 06/16/2009
- Horus45 I'm a Fan of Horus45 32 fans permalink
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I meant to say "Public Plan" not Private plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 06/16/2009

"The world economy is teetering ... With trillions of dollars evaporating in this crisis, millions of middle-class Americans face the prospect of losing their homes and jobs, and witnessing a dramatic contraction of their retirement savings. In response, the public will desperately want financial security.... [B]ailing out bankers and other gamblers [and the] huge increase in the federal debt that these bailouts will entail intensifies the pressure to rein in health-care costs....

"The dean of health-care economists, Victor Fuchs of Stanford, has long maintained that we will get health-care reform only when there is a war, a depression or some other major civil unrest. It's beginning to look like we might just have all three...."

—Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, "The Financial Crisis and Health Care," the Chicago Tribune, Oct. 12, 2008

When Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel wrote those words, he was chair of the Department of Bioethics (euthanasia education) at the United States Institutes of Health. Today he is President Obama's leading representative on a Federal "death council" drawing up a list of medical procedures to be used to deny care to elderly, chronically ill, and poor people, whose lives are considered of less value. Ezekiel's brother, Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is ramming this Nazi-revival policy through Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

This post is completelly unintelligible. How, for instance, is 'chair of Department of Bioethics' equated to 'euthanasia education?

What does it mean: 'Today he is President Obama's leading representative on a Federal "death council" drawing up a list of medical procedures to be used to deny care to elderly, chronically ill, and poor people, whose lives are considered of less value." This sounds nuts.

If you want people to understand what you want to say you would do better to actually explain clearly what you mean. This is just replete with a list of hyperactive words and phrases which don't at all clarify your meaning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 06/16/2009
- Horus45 I'm a Fan of Horus45 32 fans permalink
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What an idgit you are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/16/2009

The bottom line is, there should be no interaction between the healthcare industry and the insurance industry. It should be banned. This way, patients buy their insurance, seek the medical care and pay for it themselves from the money they get from their insurance.
This way, patients can decide if they want the care, the choice they are making is cost effective for them or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

That sounds good, but in practice it doesn't work. A few years ago our office did not accept Medicare .
The patient was supposed to be responsible for their bill and the insurance company would reimburse them. Most patients, would keep their checks and we would not see them again. The doctor didn't get paid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

Fine, that's understandable; then the insurance companies can directly pay the health care providers. But they should not be in charge of deciding which type or method of medical care is 'indicated' or 'not indicated'. Only the doctors who know and care for the patent should do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 06/16/2009
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Single Payer Now.

Evidence based cost effective medicine for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

What do you mean by "evidence based" care?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 06/16/2009
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I can't understand why Obama would make a speech with the biggest Medical lobbyist group in America who basically are against the People's interest. Obama your speech to them is going into one ear and out the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

The answer to that, it seems from what I have seen, is that Obama responds to the loudest voices. If you want to be taken care of in an emergency or for normal medical problems we need to make our voices heard, on this blog, on Salon.com, on WhiteHouse.gov, etc. Daily, articulately, informatively and often.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 06/16/2009

And you know this how? Doctors as well as most professionals belong to professional groups, for education , networking and associations with like persons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 06/19/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

I am sick and tired of people blaming the doctors for the problems in health care. Doctors fees are set by the INSURANCE Companies and the government. As an employer I offer insurance and have several employees refuse it because they would rather have the money. This is NOT because they need the money to buy food etc. but pay for vacations, new car, etc. Young people seem to think that they will never get sick or have an emergency. Obama should focus on drug companies, health insurance companies, all those companies that advertise on TV for a "free scooter" or diabetic supplies, these are rip offs that cost Medicare a lot of money every year.There is a lot of waste in healthcare, but it is not coming from doctors.
I have never known of a person going to the ER with a gunshot wound or anything else and the doctor asking them to pay up front or they won't treat them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 06/16/2009
- chaifreak I'm a Fan of chaifreak 10 fans permalink

Because you have a few kids with immortality syndrome, you're going to tar and feather all the people who genuinely cannot afford insurance? What's next? Our insurance just went up to over $1000 a month for really, really bad coverage. No well-child check-ups, no immunization, no Rx, no dental, no vision and $5,000 per person per year deductible. $12,000 a year is %20 of our yearly income. It's come down to macaroni and cheese from a box and canned vegetables (NOT a way to stay healthy) or paying for health care. Yet we make too much money to qualify for SCHIP or any other public aid. The next step for us will be to cut out even the canned vegetables...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 06/16/2009
- linton I'm a Fan of linton 3 fans permalink
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Have you shopped around and looked at other altenatives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

You are right. My insurance is 790 a month with a high deductible and high co-pays etc.
I don't see this as the fault of the doctors. It's the insurance companies that are ripping us off.
Obama should regulate them.!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 06/16/2009
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I don't think you understand how it works. Doctors make a profit when they sell Drugs onto people and in turn Drug companies make their profits, and in turn insurance companies deny the People adequate care the people have been putting money into, to cover the drugs the Doctors are pushing on the people. It's a cycle. It's huge industry cycle. They need each other to make a profit. The people sometimes have no choice but to buy that inhaler, that antibiotic, or etc out of their own pocket. The drug company wins, the doctor wins, and insurance company wins because the people and the employers are putting their money into that insurance company cookie jar. You see that is the reason why drug companies do not want Mari.juana laws to change. They would not be able to make money if everybody was using Mari.juana, an earthly substance, to cure all of the people's medical problems.

And by the way, young people are not refusing health insurance to pay for vacation and a new car. They refusing health insurance because they have a huge huge education debt once they come out of college. They need a car to go to work to pay for that car's insurance and their education debt. Young people barely make any money and you think oh we're going on vacation with the measly pay employers provide. Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 06/16/2009
- linton I'm a Fan of linton 3 fans permalink
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Don't forget the huge compensations that their CEO's etc receive. Maybe, it is time for us to take the fight to them, follow the example of the Iranians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

WHAT!!! Doctors don't profit from drug companies. I work in the medical field. You are wrong.!!
Go smoke more of your earthy substance!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 06/16/2009

Doctors do not receive kick backs from drug companies. In the late 90's drug companies were stopped from giving dinners, golf trips and other gifts.

College debt is not only limited to the young...try 450K on average for a doctor and that is before he sets his office up, and pays for malpratice insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/19/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

'I have never known of a person going to the ER with a gunshot wound or anything else and the doctor asking them to pay up front or they won't treat them.'

That's not supposed to happen, but it does. Frequently. And doctors do it too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 06/16/2009
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I've heard it. While they fixing the wound they have some guy from finance ask where's your insurance card, do you have medicaid, how will you pay this? It's all happening while you are on a stretcher. If you die, they come after your family. There's no decency for ill or for the dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 06/16/2009
- sueno I'm a Fan of sueno 11 fans permalink

I am boycotting all doctors
connected or apart of the AMA-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 06/16/2009
- Anthro I'm a Fan of Anthro 29 fans permalink
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A lot of caring docs do NOT belong to the AMA. It's basically a special interest group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 06/16/2009
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Good, but sometimes the plan you have don't cover the docs who are not part of the AMA or network.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 06/16/2009
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AMA doesn't speak for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 06/16/2009
- kbkw54 I'm a Fan of kbkw54 57 fans permalink

I think that's great.!! But if have a car wreck and need emergency care you are not going to care if the belong to the AMA or not. Now are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 06/16/2009
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 20 fans permalink

And the corollary: Nobody chooses a doctor BECAUSE he or she belongs to the AMA, only that they are Board-certified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 06/16/2009
- PaxEterna I'm a Fan of PaxEterna 53 fans permalink

We need to take a page out of Teheran's book: PROTEST BY THE MILLIONS

SYMBO: Send Your Medical Bills to Obama - NOW

If we "Just Say NO" to the system and refuse to pay up, the collective power brokers will go broke, and will have to come up with something for the PEOPLE.

The same care that Congress gets - courtesy of the US Taxpayer - is a good place to start.

Doctors are just as greedy as: auto execs, Wall St. CEOs etc. further, the insurance/pharma industry has appealed to their greed by rewarding high cost procedures over common sense, etc. If you factor in the high cost of medical education (in other countries paid for by the government), doctors come out of their training needing huge amounts of money. It's a perfect set-up for the medical industry.

I know plenty of doctors; the good ones - who don't have shares in clinics, hospitals, drug cos etc. - complain mightily that their ability to actually practice medicine has been eroded. They spend more time doing paperwork than actually seeing patients. If they don't "make" enough money for the practice they are in (ie and the insurance cos), then there are clawback provisions in their contracts.
It's disgusting. It's not medicine, IT'S BIG BUSINESS.

Read The New Yorker of two weeks ago for a chilling vision of what is in store for all Americans (not just Texans) if we do not take to the streets and win SINGLE PAYER

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 06/16/2009
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This country before the 70s would protest to the death. Where are all these protesters? Ah I know where they are, they at a big corporation working, hoping to be the next executive to make that 6-7 figure salary one day that will in turn continue to destroy America into oblivion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 06/16/2009

We are now in our 60's and are going to retire. We got you this far, its now your turn. We are going to take our Medicare , Social Security and 401K's and relax. We paid for the generation in front of us, and its your turn to pay for our retirement, and if the country does not fall apart, the generation behind you will pay for your retirement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 06/19/2009
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