New Prius Orders Soar To 180,0000

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YURI KAGEYAMA | 06/19/09 05:13 AM | AP

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In this photo taken on June 5, 2009, a Toyota Motor Corp. worker gives the final examination on an newly assembled Prius at Toyota Tsutsumi Plant in Toyota, central Japan. Toyota got 180,000 orders for the new Prius hybrid in Japan in just a month, far surpassing its target of 10,000 vehicles in monthly sales, the automaker said Friday, June 19, 2009. The third-generation Prius, which rolled out a month ago, has been a big hit here, partly because of tax-breaks and other new government incentives that are meant to perk growth during the nation's downturn. (AP Photo/Shizuo Kambayashi)

TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp. got 180,000 orders for the new Prius hybrid in Japan in just a month, far surpassing its target of 10,000 vehicles in monthly sales, the automaker said Friday.

The third-generation Prius, which rolled out a month ago, has been a big hit here, partly because of tax-breaks and other new government incentives that are meant to perk growth during the nation's downturn.

The Prius was the No. 1 selling vehicle in Japan for May, clinching the top spot in the domestic market for the first time and overtaking Honda's new hybrid, the Insight, which fell to third after taking the top spot in April.

Competition in the hybrid vehicle market has intensified after the Insight debuted in February in Japan at 1.89 million yen ($19,700). Toyota is offering its new Prius at just over 2 million yen ($20,900), about 300,000 yen ($3,100) cheaper than the previous model. The upgrade has a larger 1.8-liter engine but gets better mileage than the older one.

The new Prius is just starting to arrive in the U.S., where sales for last month totaled just 700. Dealers are still selling mostly the second-generation Prius, making for total Prius sales of 10,091 for May, Toyota spokesman Paul Nolasco said.

Strong hybrid sales are a rare bright spot for Japan's automakers, which have been battered by the global slowdown, a strengthening yen and the U.S. credit crunch.

Toyota, the world's biggest automaker, which also makes the Camry sedan and Lexus luxury models, recorded its worst loss in its seven-decade history for the fiscal year ended March.

In Japan, hybrids are now tax-free, delivering savings of about 150,000 yen ($1,500) for a Prius buyer. Other fuel-efficient models qualify for lower savings.

Also helping is a "cash-for-clunkers" program similar to the plan initiated by President Barack Obama, which offers vouchers worth up to $4,500 for a gas-guzzler turned in for a new car in the U.S.

In Japan, people who trade in a car 13 years or older get a 250,000 yen ($2,500) rebate for buying an ecological model. Those without a trade-in get 100,000 yen ($1,000).

Toyota is also continuing to sell the old-style Prius in Japan at the same price as the Insight. That's relatively unusual as manufacturing of old models is usually discontinued with the arrival of the new model. Those sales numbers aren't included in Friday's orders number from Toyota.

But while hybrid sales are booming, demand for other models is plunging.

The overall auto market continues to sag in Japan. Vehicle sales in Japan fell for the 10th straight month in May, dropping 19.4 percent from the same month the previous year, according to the Japan Automobile Dealers' Association.

The decline has been easing from previous months as sales fell 29 percent in April and 31.5 percent in March. Toyota's vehicle sales in Japan tumbled 24 percent in May from the same month a year ago.

TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp. got 180,000 orders for the new Prius hybrid in Japan in just a month, far surpassing its target of 10,000 vehicles in monthly sales, the automaker said Friday. The th...
TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp. got 180,000 orders for the new Prius hybrid in Japan in just a month, far surpassing its target of 10,000 vehicles in monthly sales, the automaker said Friday. The th...
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This is why the cash for clunkers incentive just passed by Congress should have required that the cars to qualify need to be more than 50% U.S. content. That would have permitted cars built in the United States by foreign companies, such as at the Toyota plant in Kentucky to qualify, but not imports. Unfortuantely most of the purchases made under the cash for clunkers stimulus will be of foreign-made cars and not provide a stimulus for the U.S. economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 06/22/2009

False patriotism still doesn't count as a solution.

The people who really love their country pay a 100% gas tax. That's how you do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 06/23/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

The fastest growing sector of the economy? The green sector. If and when Detroit shows us something as good as what is coming from overseas, they will get our respect again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 06/22/2009

Have you looked at Ford's gasoline-electric hybrids, the Fusion sedan and the Excape cross-over SUV?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 06/22/2009

x-over SUV??? Not even worth mentioning. The Ford Fusion hybrid is seriously lacking, as it gets a meager 41mpg EPA rating and only 36mpg on the highway.... the new standard for hybrids is 50mpg. Many European diesel models are doing just as well or even better...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 06/23/2009
- NilesCrane I'm a Fan of NilesCrane 11 fans permalink

Within the last two weeks Ive been looking at getting a new car. I have a 2004 prius and was waiting for the new model. I found a dealership that had the prius I wanted, with the solar panel on top. Out the door I was looking at 34k...I sat inside it, it was nice cool center console, but like a previous poster, there was alot of plastic, nothing really exceptional or glitzy.

I went home to think about, it was 34k, for a toyota, seriously....While I love the prius I have, it drives great and is fun, I didnt pay 34k for it 5 years ago. I paid around 24k....for 10k extra you get a solar panel to cool down your car...i only wanted it for that damn panel cuz i live in the desert, I kept saying it was worth it, but honestly it doesnt charge the battery. The airconditioning is super fast in my old prius that I never had a real big problem with a hot car.

So now Im getting a used/dealer lend lexus rx350 for 36k out the door fully loaded, even though it doesnt get the gas mileage as my prius (which im still keeping, I like to drive it for long trips), I think its a great deal. I would have bought the prius if the huge price tag actually justified something, but it doesnt, for 22k get the model 1 and be happy with cloth seats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 06/22/2009
- stylenease I'm a Fan of stylenease 18 fans permalink
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It's the new competition from the Honda Insight that is forcing them to lower the price. I appreciate this car's ability to use much less fuel, but gosh, what an ugly car. I would never buy it just on the pricipal that it is so ugly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 06/21/2009
- lorla I'm a Fan of lorla 10 fans permalink

How about 180,00 for Ford's most fuel efficient model for July?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 06/21/2009
- Whitley2009 I'm a Fan of Whitley2009 116 fans permalink
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Take that highly paid execs in high flying airplanes in Detroit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 06/21/2009
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And what do you think Toyota Exec's Fly in? Do you think they use their peddle car where ever they go? What kind of a carbon imprint do you think they leave with their jets. Should Japan repo their jets because they were given loans from the Japanese government? Also, do you realize that Detroit Exec's LEASE their jets? Do you realize when they take 10 people or more it is cheaper for them to take a leased jet verses flying commercial? So you just asked them to spend more money, good job. They just write articles in papers and broadcast things for their sensationalistic effect. You really shouldn't say thinks if you don't have all your facts.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 06/21/2009
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I worked in the general aviation industry for twenty-five years servicing corporate jet and turboprop aircraft. Most of what you say assumes that the company leases it's jets from an outside source. Usually that isn't the case with a large corporation like General Motors, for example. They would have an aviation division of the company, separate from the parent company only on paper for tax purposes. Trust me - those corporate jets are far more expensive to own and operate than booking a flight on a commercial carrier....unless you have obscene profits in the parent company...and that hasn't been the case for a while now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 06/22/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

Also:

A CEO in the U.S. earns about four times as much as his Japanese counterpart, who is seen as a "representative of the employees." Perhaps such respect for employees is why the employees are so committed to making quality products.

The presidents of companies including Toyota, Sony, Toshiba, Honda, and Hitachi have all recently quit their jobs. When the company is not doing well, the CEO apologises, and quits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 06/22/2009
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Maybe the Toyota workers here respect the CEO/'s or whatever they are called. But, go ask the Japanese that just lost their jobs in Japan from that company. You see the company owns their apartments that they live in. When they lost their jobs they threw them into the street. I watched it on NBC nightly news a few months ago. A family had to live on the street with their baby and eat at a soup kitchen. So much for an employee friendly company....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 06/22/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 316 fans permalink
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US car makers answer?

BLUE TOOTH, we've got BLUE TOOTH!

MPG?

BLUE TOOTH, we've got BLUE TOOTH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 06/21/2009
- Cloball I'm a Fan of Cloball 8 fans permalink
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This reveiwer wasn't impressed at all. Called the inside of a Prius a "resin chamber."


http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2010-toyota-prius/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 06/21/2009
- diogeron I'm a Fan of diogeron 6 fans permalink

The "reviewer" won't matter. The market will and the market is disagreeing with "the reviewer."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/21/2009
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But you will be whining when it falls apart....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/21/2009
- Roguer I'm a Fan of Roguer 26 fans permalink
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Should not our efforts be directed to upgrading current vehicles on the road, would not that be more cost effective. Building all new cars seems like a waste of all those perfectly good structures. During the age of battleships, most were built during prior to or just after WW1 (they ran on coal). Rather than build all new ones for WW2, most countries upgraded their old ones to new more efficient power plants (diesel fire generators for electric propulsion).

Every new car produced is still using resources, a lot of plastics and composites (oil products).

Has anyone figured out what to do with old tires?.... 180,000 new priuses means 720,000 new tires plus spares.

I do not see how this is improving things. I would think the goal would be to figure out how to get rid of as many automobiles as possible. Maybe people could live in the same building they work in? Rather than expanding suburbia and destroy farmland and natural areas, cities should build up instead of out. In the US, especially, our land use is more inefficient than our cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 06/21/2009
- Goliadkin I'm a Fan of Goliadkin 18 fans permalink
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So let's just retrofit some old battleships with hybrid engines. They'd be great in a collision with a Hummer. Flatten those suckers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 06/22/2009
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World's best bumper sticker on an old Jeep Cherokee: "If I wanted a Hummer, I'd have called your sister".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 06/22/2009
- mcarlsonus I'm a Fan of mcarlsonus 4 fans permalink
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A bit off-topic, I admit...bu­t...questi­on:
we're discussing "green" and "hybrid cars." Said hybrids have now been around long enough to wonder about the to this question:
What do we do with all the spent, worn-out, unredeemable battery packs that will have to be disposed of after the car reaches its life end? I can't toss even a simple "D" cell in the household Hefty currently (with a clear conscience, that is!). What's the disposal plan for those HUGH battery packs? I can't believe they can all be recycled/reused! Does anyone have an answer (pardon if I'm simply and unintentionally advertising my ignorance!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 06/21/2009
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I guess we send them to China to float around the rivers of Microsoft and Dell computer parts that are there now. Just Kidding, kinda. I asked that very same question myself. I've yet to get an answer....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 06/21/2009

All these battery packs will be recycled by the car company or your local mechanic.
They contain valuable nickel, which is easy to recycle (and profitable to boot).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 06/22/2009
- mcarlsonus I'm a Fan of mcarlsonus 4 fans permalink
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But, Raj...
what about the parts that AREN'T nickel? And I'd also like to reiterate my fear that we won't be recycling everything, thus leaving us in a position identical to the situation we have today. EXAMPLE: Billions of toxic "flashlight" batteries are winding up in landfills. We aren't SUPPOSED to toss 'em in the nearest convenient Hefty, yet, I've only seen ONE dedicated "dead battery receptacle" in my entire friggin' life - and I'm 59 years old! SO, what is one to do? Save them until one becomes the US's smallest toxic waste dumpsite?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 06/23/2009
- blaising I'm a Fan of blaising 18 fans permalink
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180,000 huh? Ya think?

Gawd, we have gotten stoopid.

If we weren't, WE'D be making cars like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 06/21/2009
- memosyne I'm a Fan of memosyne 7 fans permalink

Two years ago I bought a Prius Hybrid: excellent car, easy to drive, very convenient and 47 mpg even if I'm not really careful of driving style. Plenty of power when I need to pull into fast traffic, easy cargo, good passenger space. ETc. Etc. I'm old and have driven lots of cars, european, japanese, GM, Ford. I also enjoy the subway when I'm in Boston, and would support more public transportation.
I recently looked at meat and decided I didn't want to eat dead animals any more. Maine has great locally grown organic tomatoes etc. So my carbon footprint is declining slightly. I find friends and family supportive of my personal choices, and I try to support theirs. However I do admit to using poison on the poison ivy (verrrry carefully).
I'm hoping the aggregate of folks' personal and political choices will make a difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 06/20/2009

Illusionpainter, below, refers us to a story about Toyota's reported connection with slave labor, and suggests that we avoid buying their products. This, despite Toyota's clear lead in "green" technologies and emissions reduction.

I agree that we should educate ourselves about this repulsive phenomenon but I'm suggesting that our research be a bit broader than just scrutinizing the practices of Toyota. Learn, as well, about the connections of other major auto companies to this subject, homegrown corporations included. Consider GM's longtime presence in China. We all know of China's stellar human rights.

In this 21st century, global economy, it is virtually impossible to purchase a product known for sure to be squeaky clean with regard to forced labor or inhumane labor conditions. The clothing industry has been notorious for its widespread connection to the practice; yet, we've not been walking around naked, even though the odds are high that the clothing we purchase has somewhere, somehow been connected to unfair or even inhumane working conditions.

I do not suggest that we, as individuals or as a nation, turn a blind eye to the practice. Quite the contrary. I am, however, suggesting that we be objective and balanced in our approach. I also suggest that rejecting Toyota's products in favor of something less fuel and emmissions efficient may not be the most intelligent, or ethical, course.

In fairness, I feel I should disclose my recent Prius purchase. I may be just a bit biased by its stellar mileage performance, to date.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 06/20/2009
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I agree with you about the Asian and Mexican human rights and/or pollution problems. We are just5 adding to pollution to the atmosphere and/or causing more human suffering by allowing our vehicles to be produced in these countries until they correct the problem. Otherwise we are not saving the atmosphere or our fellow human beings. No matter what car company it is.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 06/20/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

Good article.

Rather sad that the American manufacturers have been left behind in the dust of the foreign competition. What ever happened to that great, old fashioned, American ingenuity and spirit of innovation? Killed by Corporate greed and shortsightedness?

During the last Dem administration, as during this one, strong fuel economy standards were put in place. The auto manufacturers lobbied for and got exclusions for pickups and SUVs, and the rest, as they say, is history. Detroit put too much emphasis on the short term profits of manufacturing huge dinosaurs, and the American public is now suffering the consequences. Another example of what happens when American corporations succeed in getting around government regulations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 06/20/2009
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You know, everyone talks U.S. Auto makers only make SUV's and Trucks. Well they have made small, fuel efficient cars for years. THEY DON'T SELL AS WELL!!!!! People only started turning to the smaller cars when gas prices went sky high. GM alone has 20 vehicles that get 30+ mpg, 16 hybrids and 8 crossover vehicles. Do you know that? I bet not. It's all spelled out on http://www.gm.com You know small cars may be wonderful if you live in a large city or have onlt 2 people in your family. What do you do if you have more than 3 kids? How will you transport them? What if you own a business that requires a truck, van or SUV? How will you tow a camper, boat or trailer if you have one? Bet you didn't think about that.

Do your homework please.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/20/2009
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If you think you want a Prius read this article from the National Labor Committee. They use slave labor and human exploitation to manufacture this vehicle. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of your "green" earth friendly car?.....
http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=586

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 06/20/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

The Prius is made in Japan, and they have not used slave labor since World War II.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 06/20/2009
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Read the article on the link and learn the truth.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 06/20/2009
- bola47 I'm a Fan of bola47 6 fans permalink
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obviously illusionpainter is a member of the socialist workers party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 06/20/2009

Yawn. If that's all you got, you got nothing.

Check out their report for Alcoa, which supplies Ford and GM:

http://www.nlcnet.org/article.php?id=404
http://www.alcoa.com/car_truck/en/news/releases/chevy_volt.asp

The NLC basically goes after everyone who brings any form of labor to developing countries. And they even have a cause because a lot of those factories are run with absolutely no regard to the health and safety of the workers there. But thanks to the interconnectedness of global trade you will not find a single complex product that does not have something in it that came at least partially from a site in the developing world. What are YOU going to do about it? Are YOU going to stop shopping at/from Walmart and K-Mart, J.C. Penney, Guess, Walt Disney, Esprit and Victoria's Secret? I dare to bet that YOU won't. I, on the other hand never do. I do not knowingly have any merchandise from any of these.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 06/20/2009
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Actually, this is one incidence I tend to agree with you. Unless the standards improve we need to stop buying all of their crap and making our own here. Otherwise we are defeating the entire purpose. No I do not shop at Walmart, K-Mart, Guess, Walt Disney, Esprit or Victoria's Secret. However, I know it's next to impossible to find anything made here. I don't have my head buried in the sand or sludge.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 06/20/2009
- steelmill I'm a Fan of steelmill 7 fans permalink

That's why out sourcing isn't good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 06/20/2009
- steelmill I'm a Fan of steelmill 7 fans permalink

Workers conditions and environmental standards aren't good at all in China

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 06/20/2009
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