A Ticket For Marijuana Possession In Cook County? Reduced Pot Penalty Proposed As Budget Woes Deepen

Huffington Post   |  Tim Taliaferro
Posted: 06-20-09 02:25 PM

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Getting caught with a small amount of marijuana would not automatically lead to arrest if a Cook County Commissioner gets her way.

An ordinance proposed this week by Commissioner Earlean Collins (D-Chicago) would allow county sheriffs to write tickets for possession of less than 30 grams of marijuana rather than automatically making arrests. It's an effort, she says, to simultaneously boost sagging county revenues and ease overcrowding at the Cook County Jail.

"I know we're going to have a deficit budget," Collins told the Huffington Post. "This ordinance would help the County generate money and reduce the jail population."

Several states and municipalities have similar legislation that effectively decriminalizes possessing small amounts of marijuana, according to Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws in Washington, D.C.

"One-third of the country, or 115 million Americans, live in places where marijuana has been effectively decriminalized," St. Pierre told the Huffington Post. "And Cook County is by far the biggest municipality in the U.S. to take a look at decriminalization without the state doing it."

States with home-rule charters, such as Illinois, allow for local or municipal governments to extend greater or lesser freedoms or privileges to its citizens if they want. Alcohol-free dry counties are a common example.

The Cannabis Possession Ordinance would apply only to arrests made by county sheriffs and in unincorporated Cook County.

A spokesman for Sheriff Tom Dart declined to comment on the proposed ordinance since it is only in committee.

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In 2008, Dart's office made 212 arrests for possession or delivery of cannabis under 30 grams.

"It's something we already do with traffic offenses," Commissioner Larry Suffredin told the Huffington Post. "The object here is if you had someone you felt was on the straight and narrow and just barely crossed the line, give them the benefit of the doubt."

Suffredin has not yet read the full legislation but said he supports it in principle.

"In general, I'm in favor of giving law enforcement options to make it easier to stop someone from getting deeper into the criminal justice system."

The ordinance, which awaits consideration in the finance committee, levies a $250 fee on first-time offenders, a $500 fee for a second offense and a $750 fee for the third strike.

Collins' proposal follows a similar ordinance passed in south Suburban Chicago Heights last December.

Chicago Heights Police Sgt. Michael Leuser said the law is a matter of practicality in cases where the amount of cannabis would only amount to a petty offense and not even a class A misdemeanor.

"The reason for that," Leuser said, "is that nine times out of 10, judges are tossing [the charges] out."

Collins said several commissioners have asked to co-sponsor the ordinance, though she declined to drop names.

A spokesman for Board President Todd Stroger declined to comment, saying Stroger had not yet looked at the ordinance.

Criminal records, including possession of even small amounts of marijuana, can disqualify students from receiving financial aid and residents from qualifying for Section 8 housing.

Nationwide, nearly nine out of 10 marijuana arrests since 1965 have been for possession only, and the vast majority of those for amounts less than an ounce, according to the FBI's 2007 Uniform Crime Report.

Marijuana is the only drug in Illinois that is a misdemeanor to possess.

Of the 1,296 arrests for marijuana possession made in Illinois in 2008, 762 -- or 59 percent -- were class C misdemeanors, which is for 2.5 grams or less, according to Illinois State Police Sgt. Juan Valenzuela.

Another 357 -- or 28 percent -- were arrested in Illinois for possessing between 2.5 and 10 grams in 2008, and 177 -- or 14 percent -- for possessing 10 to 30 grams.

Cash-strapped municipalities across the country, from Texas to Colorado, are looking at decriminalizing marijuana as a possible budget remedy.

"It should come as no surprise," St. Pierre said, "that when the fight becomes over money, all of a a sudden people get so clear-minded about their priorities."

Getting caught with a small amount of marijuana would not automatically lead to arrest if a Cook County Commissioner gets her way. An ordinance proposed this week by Commissioner Earlean Collins (D-C...
Getting caught with a small amount of marijuana would not automatically lead to arrest if a Cook County Commissioner gets her way. An ordinance proposed this week by Commissioner Earlean Collins (D-C...
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- Skedaddle I'm a Fan of Skedaddle 2 fans permalink

lol that pick is some schwaggy bammer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 90 fans permalink
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lol.. THAT stuff should be illegal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 06/20/2009

When ever I debate someone (usually a righteous conservative) about legalizing weed, they always come up with the "gateway drug" argument. They claim that although weed doesn't kill you and is pretty much harmless, people,specially kids, will then go on to use harder drugs such as Heroin and Cocaine. My answer to that is this: That's why we need to legalize it. for 2 reasons.

1. A person hears how "Bad" pot is from our society, you know just say no, then they try pot and find it's not gonna drive them mad or kill them, they may then think that the hard core drugs are the same.

2. The guy their buying pot off of probably is selling harder stuff to.

By legalizing it you remove the stigma of Pot being bad. Therefore, strengthening the stigma of the drugs that really will drive you to addiction and death. No one claims alcohol is a gateway to harder drugs, but if was illegal and you have to get it from some shady people, it probably would be a gateway drug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 06/20/2009
- zeotrope I'm a Fan of zeotrope 5 fans permalink

Alcohol is the true gateway drug. Only when impaired by alcohol do people make bad decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 06/21/2009
- shivadas I'm a Fan of shivadas 9 fans permalink

There is no excuse for it to be illegal on any level. Not criminal, not infraction, but legalized and taxed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 06/20/2009
- adamnb I'm a Fan of adamnb 4 fans permalink

What about making hemp? Doesn't get you high and its oil is better and cheaper to use as diesel fuel than almost anything else now used.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 90 fans permalink
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not to mention jeans and t-shirts that won't shrink or wear out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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And there are lots of good reasons for it to be legal, the best of all is because it is the holy sacrament of my church - it's federal prohibition is illegal. In fact, I call it 'ethnic cleansing'.

State legislators are realizing that, that is why they are in such a hurry to pass state laws. Everybody knows the federal laws are racist bunk.

Rev Sister Lauren
THC Ministry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 06/20/2009
- Malkin71 I'm a Fan of Malkin71 26 fans permalink
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Dude...

Seriously, you ever see the guys at the Gay Pride Parade in the black leather outfits with the ass cheeks cut out?

That's you.

Stop hurting the cause.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 06/20/2009
- Dayahka I'm a Fan of Dayahka 33 fans permalink

If you are an investment counselor or a banker and you totally wreck people's lives with your shady investments, the government throws money at you; or if you're a pharmaceutical company and your drugs make people go insane, or cause deformities, or make people commit suicide, or cause any number of other disasters, the government protects you and throws money at you. But god forbid you should use a harmless drug, then the DEA and their huge armories, the police, and the so-called justice system throws the book at you.

Work fifty years and you may walk away with maybe a thousand a month, but take a toke and you get free room and board costing at least $30,000 a year, plus free medical and dental care, and all sorts of government workers, social workers and the like, making lots of money off you.

Total insanity!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 06/20/2009
- Pema I'm a Fan of Pema 52 fans permalink
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next step legalization

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 06/20/2009
- Ryoki I'm a Fan of Ryoki 32 fans permalink
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"One-third of the country, or 115 million Americans, live in places where marijuana has been effectively decriminalized,"
THIS IS A LIE!
How can it be decriminalized if they can fine you for it? If you can write me a ticket, I must be breaking a law. Breaking a law is a crime. A criminal offence.
When I can buy, posses, give away and grow marijuana, then it will be "decriminalized".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/20/2009
- shivadas I'm a Fan of shivadas 9 fans permalink

You are mistaking criminal with infraction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 06/20/2009
- mjb5406 I'm a Fan of mjb5406 27 fans permalink
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or felony with misdemeanor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 06/21/2009

It's a civil offense like a speeding ticket or jay walking. There is a legal difference, however your point is well taken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 06/20/2009

When you can openly grow and SELL marijuana as a cash crop then it will be "decriminalized" or actually "legalized".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Join my church and tell them to stop discriminating against you.

THC Ministry

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 06/20/2009
- TheFobster I'm a Fan of TheFobster 10 fans permalink

Marijuana should be legalized. Decimalization is not going far enough. Let's start making tax revenue of marijuana purchases.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 06/20/2009
- myzenthing I'm a Fan of myzenthing 6 fans permalink
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One of the few good things about our current depression is that it is FINALLY waking these government suits up to the fact that prohibition simply doesn't work.

Of course, their Grandparents already learned this lesson in the 1920s-30's, but people are stupid and they have to make the same mistakes over and over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/20/2009
- maxfax I'm a Fan of maxfax 19 fans permalink

Still clogging the courts. Wasted taxpayer monies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 06/20/2009
- wdmax I'm a Fan of wdmax 5 fans permalink
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Everyday we take a step in the right direction concerning Cannabis. The government lies and false propaganda have being revealed for what they are. Everyone should start to grow their own. Cast the seeds everywhere they will grow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 06/20/2009
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 25 fans permalink

The ONLY penalty, ever, might be selling to minors, nationwide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 06/20/2009

IF you ask a police officer if he has problems with violent pot users, the answers is no. If you ask if he has problems with violent drunks, it is yes. Best thing to do is legalize the stuff and tax it. Less unnecessary work for already busy police and more money in taxes. Prohibition doesn't work anyway.

FYI, I don't smoke anything at all and drink only occasionally with meals. Just think this is the rational thing to do. The whole U.S. system needs to be rationalized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 06/20/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 75 fans permalink

Make marijuana legal and be done with it. It would empty our prisons. Alcohol is a huge problem
but then our local courts would not be happy if they could not lock up a lot of people. And all those
lawyers would not have anything to do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 06/20/2009
- Jaladeno I'm a Fan of Jaladeno 122 fans permalink
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I wanted to post something on this subject before I lost my train of th...

Whoops - Gotta run - the brownies are done!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 06/20/2009

There is not one single rational reason for this stuff to be illegal in the first place. The government has zero authority to tell people they can't do something so harmless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 06/20/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

I see that you're operating under the delusion that the government is of the people, by the people, for the people. You probably think that you live in the land of the free and the home of the brave too.

I hope that one day in my lifetime we can elect a president who cares about the rights of the people more than he / she cares about his own political ambitions. Until that happens - and it did not happen with Obama - things will remain as they are and we will continue to live in a police state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 06/20/2009

I see you're operating under the delusion that acting like a self-righteous jerk on the internet is hip and also of the arrogant opinion that you're the only one enlightened enough to realize truths.

Give me a break. We both think the government has no right to outlaw something as trivial as marijuana, so the hostility charade isn't necessary. We're on the same side, genius.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 06/20/2009

Yes, we are free..............free to tell other people how to live their lives through the "rule of law".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 06/20/2009
- Bmantra I'm a Fan of Bmantra 3 fans permalink
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Gosh, I'm so frightning. I'm looking for the black helicoptors too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 06/20/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 90 fans permalink
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silly yew..

thanks to obama we have obama to thank..

he's allowing the process toward legalization to proceed.

GOBAMA!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 06/20/2009
- kindGSL I'm a Fan of kindGSL 15 fans permalink
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Join my church, THC Ministry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 06/20/2009
- DrPneumann I'm a Fan of DrPneumann 7 fans permalink

Kathryn Johnston (June 26, 1914 - November 21, 2006) was an elderly Atlanta, Georgia woman who was shot by three undercover police officers in her home on Neal Street in northwest Atlanta on November 21, 2006, where she had lived for 17 years. She fired a warning shot into the ceiling after officers pried off burglar bars and broke down her door using a no knock warrant. None of the officers were injured by her gunfire, but Johnston was killed by the officers. After the officers shot Johnston, they left her handcuffed on the floor while she bled to death, and then planted marijuana from their patrol car in her basement to try to help justify the shooting.

One doesn't even have to possess any "prohibited" substance to be a victim of this "war on drugs"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 06/20/2009
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