New York Teachers Paid To Do Nothing: 700 Of Them

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KAREN MATTHEWS | June 22, 2009 05:20 PM EST | AP

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This May 2006 photo provided by art teacher Judith Cohen shows her sitting in front of cardboard boxes in a rubber room, in New York. Hundreds of public school teachers in New York accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct, have been banished to adult detention centers known as rubber rooms, where the city can keep an eye on them, paying them their full salaries of $70,000 or $80,000 a year to essentially do nothing. Cohen says she has been waiting in a rubber room, or reassignment center since May 2006. Cohen, an art teacher, says she passes the time by painting watercolors of her fellow detainees. She is "awaiting a decision from my hearing which was over April 21, 2009. And here I sit, waiting, and waiting and waiting..." (AP Photo/Courtesy Judith Cohen)

NEW YORK — Hundreds of New York City public school teachers accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct are being paid their full salaries to sit around all day playing Scrabble, surfing the Internet or just staring at the wall, if that's what they want to do.

Because their union contract makes it extremely difficult to fire them, the teachers have been banished by the school system to its "rubber rooms" _ off-campus office space where they wait months, even years, for their disciplinary hearings.

The 700 or so teachers can practice yoga, work on their novels, paint portraits of their colleagues _ pretty much anything but school work. They have summer vacation just like their classroom colleagues and enjoy weekends and holidays through the school year.

"You just basically sit there for eight hours," said Orlando Ramos, who spent seven months in a rubber room, officially known as a temporary reassignment center, in 2004-05. "I saw several near-fights. `This is my seat.' `I've been sitting here for six months.' That sort of thing."

Ramos was an assistant principal in East Harlem when he was accused of lying at a hearing on whether to suspend a student. Ramos denied the allegation but quit before his case was resolved and took a job in California.

Because the teachers collect their full salaries of $70,000 or more, the city Department of Education estimates the practice costs the taxpayers $65 million a year. The department blames union rules.

"It is extremely difficult to fire a tenured teacher because of the protections afforded to them in their contract," spokeswoman Ann Forte said.

City officials said that they make teachers report to a rubber room instead of sending they home because the union contract requires that they be allowed to continue in their jobs in some fashion while their cases are being heard. The contract does not permit them to be given other work.

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Ron Davis, a spokesman for the United Federation of Teachers, said the union and the Department of Education reached an agreement last year to try to reduce the amount of time educators spend in reassignment centers, but progress has been slow.

"No one wants teachers who don't belong in the classroom. However, we cannot neglect the teachers' rights to due process," Davis said. The union represents more than 228,000 employees, including nearly 90,000 teachers.

Many teachers say they are being punished because they ran afoul of a vindictive boss or because they blew the whistle when somebody fudged test scores.

"The principal wants you out, you're gone," said Michael Thomas, a high school math teacher who has been in a reassignment center for 14 months after accusing an assistant principal of tinkering with test results.

City education officials deny teachers are unfairly targeted but say there has been an effort under Mayor Michael Bloomberg to get incompetents out of the classroom. "There's been a push to report anything that you see wrong," Forte said.

Some other school systems likewise pay teachers to do nothing.

The Los Angeles district, the nation's second-largest school system with 620,000 students, behind New York's 1.1 million, said it has 178 teachers and other staff members who are being "housed" while they wait for misconduct charges to be resolved.

Similarly, Mimi Shapiro, who is now retired, said she was assigned to sit in what Philadelphia calls a "cluster office." "They just sit you in a room in a hard chair," she said, "and you just sit."

Teacher advocates say New York's rubber rooms are more extensive than anything that exists elsewhere.

Teachers awaiting disciplinary hearings around the nation typically are sent home, with or without pay, Karen Horwitz, a former Chicago-area teacher who founded the National Association for the Prevention of Teacher Abuse. Some districts find non-classroom work _ office duties, for example _ for teachers accused of misconduct.

New York City's reassignment centers have existed since the late 1990s, Forte said. But the number of employees assigned to them has ballooned since Bloomberg won more control over the schools in 2002. Most of those sent to rubber rooms are teachers; others are assistant principals, social workers, psychologists and secretaries.

Once their hearings are over, they are either sent back to the classroom or fired. But because their cases are heard by 23 arbitrators who work only five days a month, stints of two or three years in a rubber room are common, and some teachers have been there for five or six.

The nickname refers to the padded cells of old insane asylums. Some teachers say that is fitting, since some of the inhabitants are unstable and don't belong in the classroom. They add that being in a rubber room itself is bad for your mental health.

"Most people in that room are depressed," said Jennifer Saunders, a high school teacher who was in a reassignment center from 2005 to 2008. Saunders said she was charged with petty infractions in an effort to get rid of her: "I was charged with having a student sit in my class with a hat on, singing."

The rubber rooms are monitored, some more strictly than others, teachers said.

"There was a bar across the street," Saunders said. "Teachers would sneak out and hang out there for hours."

Judith Cohen, an art teacher who has been in a rubber room near Madison Square Garden for three years, said she passes the time by painting watercolors of her fellow detainees.

"The day just seemed to crawl by until I started painting," Cohen said, adding that others read, play dominoes or sleep. Cohen said she was charged with using abusive language when a girl cut her with scissors.

Some sell real estate, earn graduate degrees or teach each other yoga and tai chi.

David Suker, who has been in a Brooklyn reassignment center for three months, said he has used the time to plan summer trips to Alaska, Cape Cod and Costa Rica. Suker said he was falsely accused of throwing a girl's test sign-up form in the garbage during an argument.

"It's sort of peaceful knowing that you're going to work to do nothing," he said.

Philip Nobile is a journalist who has written for New York Magazine and the Village Voice and is known for his scathing criticism of public figures. A teacher at Brooklyn's Cobble Hill School of American Studies, Nobile was assigned to a rubber room in 2007, "supposedly for pushing a boy while I was breaking up a fight." He contends the school system is retaliating against him for exposing wrongdoing.

He is spending his time working on his case and writing magazine articles and a novel.

"This is what happens to political prisoners throughout history," he said, alluding to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. "They put us in prison and we write our `Letter From the Birmingham Jail.'"

NEW YORK — Hundreds of New York City public school teachers accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct are being paid their full salaries to sit around all day playing...
NEW YORK — Hundreds of New York City public school teachers accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct are being paid their full salaries to sit around all day playing...
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Another detail about the teacher's union is that their health insurance provides for FREE COSMETIC SURGERY. I was told that the logic for this was that children learn better from younger, prettier teachers..­.staggerin­g...I'm tired of New York politicians kowtowing to the bloated demands of unions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 06/23/2009
- SamiSam I'm a Fan of SamiSam 12 fans permalink
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I'm a NYC 4th grade teacher and I can attest to the uptick in teachers being sent to the "rubber room" for these alleged infractions. One thin the article didn't mention was that some people there (I know of one) have had their hearing but are not released due to the slow processing of these claims. Teachers now days have to deal with so much in the classroom and on top of that the worry that you're gonna be accused of something. You can get sent to the RR if you push a kid while breaking up a fight (preventing a kid from making another kid a bloody mess), but the violent kid rarely gets a suspension. We put ourselves and our jobs at risk everyday to try to keep kids safe, but get no kudos for it. Just yesterday one of my students picked up a chair to throw it at another student. I had to jump in right as it launched. The kid didn't even get a talking to by the principle. The system is flawed. Are there crappy crazy teachers out there? Of course. But most of us are out here trying to do right by these children but we're not getting the support.

By the way, don't believe the test score increase. Those test were supremely dumbed down. Trust me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 06/23/2009

Every day, every week, every year we're blamed for all the negativity that happens in the school. Our city praises Bloomberg for our rising test scores and falling school crime rates, but like Samiesam says our tests are dumbed down and principals refuse to report crime in their school in fear of losing their jobs at the hands of Bloomberg. Many of the students I teach in the 6th grade read at a 3rd grade level. These same kids are two and three grade levels behind in basic math computation. I can't begin to express how difficult it is to motivate them yet like other teachers I courageously go to work determine to teach. Our job in NYC Dept. of Education is tough and very few extrinsic rewards; that’s not why we teach.
Examine the correlation between Bloomberg school policies and the increasing number of teachers in the rubber room. Unfortunately those of us who teach with our hearts and focus on what best for our students are often forced out of teaching. Bloomberg policies and the continual focus on data driven teaching hurts our children. It increases the divide between the haves and the have nots, it’s a business model supporting a business ran by two businessmen Klien and Bloomberg. Like our stock market the Klien-Bloomberg team eschews what actually happening with our students but rather focused on numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 06/28/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 315 fans permalink
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They've only been ACCUSED of wrongdoing, so they should be paid until a determination is made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 06/23/2009
- elbzee I'm a Fan of elbzee 19 fans permalink
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Gee, for $65 million taxpayer's dollars a year, ya think we could do more than "employ 23 arbitrators who work only five days a month?

I mean, ya think?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 06/23/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 61 fans permalink

my God man, you know logic is absolutely forbidden in these situations.
such crazy ideas may lead to monetary savings for the taxpayer or efficient resolution. what next, you want our elected representatives accountable to their constituents.
anarchy I say. cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 06/24/2009
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Inexcusable abuse of an institution, not to mention the miseducated students.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 06/23/2009
- LeonBNJ I'm a Fan of LeonBNJ 19 fans permalink

Isn't the delay in due process, upwards for years, for administrative hearings against the Constitution? No one should have to wait many months or years, at most in many cases it should be a matter of a month or two. Some of those accused of true criminal acts shouldn't be paid until they are found not guilty. The City should also challange that they cannot do other work while in the 'room', there is plenty of administrative duties, paper moving that could be done. Maybe the people in Albany could help the taxpayer for a change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 06/23/2009
- jacw20 I'm a Fan of jacw20 2 fans permalink

No that only applies in Criminal cases. It is not unusual for civil cases to last years. Also, the arbitration process the teachers are in is the one they bargined for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 06/23/2009

I'd rather see teachers paid for doing nothing than corporate CEO's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 06/23/2009
- HAL2 I'm a Fan of HAL2 3 fans permalink
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I'd rather they didn't do either, no one should be paid to do nothing. Corporate CEO's don't get paid by our Tax $'s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 06/23/2009
- jbs902 I'm a Fan of jbs902 5 fans permalink

Since the advent of the TARP a lot of them have been doing just that being paid with our tax dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 06/23/2009

No, they get paid by your regular money. Why do you think that you pay so much for everything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 06/24/2009

so its ok that teachers, who have been found by the school board to have acted inapropriately, to get paid for doing nothing, while "Corporate CEO's," many of whom have worked long and hard their whole lives to get where they are to get crapped upon by the government.

Great way to think! Just keep being bitter!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 06/23/2009
- jbs902 I'm a Fan of jbs902 5 fans permalink

I think teachers should not be paid to do "nothing" however your mea culpa for some of these corporate types is overstated. Yes a lot of CEO's do their jobs and have worked hard to be where they are but most have NOT! They get paid whether their companies are profitable or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 06/23/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 315 fans permalink
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They've been ACCUSED of wrongdoing. NO findings have been made for teachers who are assigned to "rubber rooms".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/23/2009
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Self-revelation — the nakedness necessary in therapy — is hard when you have been a model to others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 06/23/2009

A slow news day? This story gegts played every year in the NY Post. Lazy teachers paid too much. Teachers' union cheating us tax payers. Teaching's an easy, cushy job; anyone could do it. Care to try?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 06/23/2009

Seriously! This is definitely an administration problem, not the fault of teachers. If people wanna stop unions cheating tax payers, let's start with the Fraternal Order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 06/23/2009

This is why any time an idealistic person who says "there should be a law against that" whenever a person is unjustly fired needs to immediately ask the second question "but is it practical?", because, in the end, if someone wants to fire you or get rid of it, they will do so at all costs. In this case, that cost is absolutely enormous to the tax payers. This is why we have the "privilege to live in NYC and Yonkers" income tax, on TOP of very high state income taxes and property taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 06/23/2009
- JD44Irish I'm a Fan of JD44Irish 8 fans permalink

If the teacher's unions stopped using their funds on campaign contributions and for political causes irrelevant to the education of our children, we would have less problems like this.

Teacher's deserve much higher salaries and something better than the current union system. Once they get higher salaries, we can raise standards because we will have more applicants and then our children can finally have the education they deserve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 06/23/2009
- jacw20 I'm a Fan of jacw20 2 fans permalink

Higher pay only works if there is an incentive to teach better. If every teacher gets the raise regardless of competance, then throwing more money at education doesn't help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 06/23/2009
- dct1999 I'm a Fan of dct1999 315 fans permalink
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Bullsheet. Higher salaries do matter. Improved compensation is not equivalent to "throwing more money" at education. It is about the ability to attract the same teachers that suburban districts can attract.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 06/23/2009
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These types of stories provide fodder for further abuse of teachers.

The truth is that we don't need corporate executives or government administrators or politicians to figure out how to best educate our children.

If we want a system that works well to educate our children all we need to do is do exactly what our teachers tell us to do. Give them what they ask for. It will work just fine.

Unfortunately President Obama seems to be sending US education down the same tired loser of a path based on false statistics and benchmark kabuki.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 06/23/2009
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Teachers are not all-knowing; more and more stories come out on how inappropriately some of them behave.

Having said that teaching in the NYC public system is not for the faint of heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 06/23/2009
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Ain't that the truth!

Most teachers are driven to help their students learn and become self motivating achievers. It makes sense to pay heed to what they have learned about how to do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 06/23/2009

Aman! Teaching happens at the local level, community based.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 06/28/2009
- been2there I'm a Fan of been2there 11 fans permalink

The poster who pointed to the discipline in Japanese schools is right. The problem is not just money, but the low pay and lousy physical condition of the schools is a symptom of lack of respect for education. High achievers are harassed and beaten, parents may be very uncomfortable when a child begins to learn more that they did, and "eggheads" and "squints" are figures of fun. An academically gifted girl has a real problem. Try googling "the 30 million word difference" and see what that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 06/23/2009
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Of course, when a small Japanese girl was crushed to death between the closing gates to her schoolyard entrance as she tried to enter late, the principal publically rebuked the dead girl for being late and her parents for being negligent in not making sure she was on time.

In Japan low achievers may be harrased by teachers as well as other students. Some step in front of a train because they can think of no other way to escape their shame.

But things are changing everywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 06/23/2009
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Of the 90,000 teachers in the NYC School System 700 are waiting for arbitration.

That's less than .08% of the teachers in the system.

They are waiting for the backlog in the arbitrators, so hire more arbitrators and the wait will be lessened and issues resolved in a timely manner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 06/23/2009
- elbzee I'm a Fan of elbzee 19 fans permalink
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Blows your mind that such an obvious whack in the head. Maybe we could use another arbitrator or two, huh? And maybe they could work, like, 5 days a week, like 50 weeks a year"? Maybe??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 06/23/2009
- jacw20 I'm a Fan of jacw20 2 fans permalink

The arbitors hold hearings 5 days a month. The rest of the month, they write their decisions based off of prior precedent and the factual submissions of the parties involved.

THat said it sounds like they should double the number of arbitors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 06/23/2009
- erincnyc I'm a Fan of erincnyc 4 fans permalink
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Judges work 5 days a week every week, and they must also hold hearings and write opinions every day. It doesn't take 3 weeks to write opinions for 1 week of hearings. Hearings take more time than writing the opinion regarding the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 06/24/2009
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Schools that do not allow teachers to teach and make claims about those teachers which they do not substantiate are abusing the teachers that they lock out of the classroom.

Just as a lock out is not a strike since it is initiated by the employer not the employees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 06/23/2009
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