Schumer: Dems May Have To Go It Alone On Health Care

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RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR | 06/22/09 05:47 PM | AP

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Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., holds up a stack of documents comprising of the health care reform bill as Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee ranking Republican and Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., looks on, before the committee's markup hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, June 17, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — Democrats are becoming bolder about their idea that middle-class familes get the option of joining a government insurance plan in any overhaul of the health care system. Their fervor carries a risk.

Liberals, citing polls that show support for a public plan, say they are increasingly frustrated with negotiations to make the idea more palatable to Republicans. Moderates, however, warn that abandoning the talks could jeopardize efforts to draft a bill that can pass a closely divided Senate.

"It is important not to draw lines in the sand and rule out options before they are fully explored," Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. said Monday. "If we do, we could easily wind up with no viable option at all."

Conrad has proposed creating nonprofit health insurance co-ops as an alternative to a full-blown government plan. His idea was seen as perhaps the last hope for compromise on the issue. But another influential Democrat is complaining that talks with Republicans may be headed for a dead end.

"I don't think I could say with a straight face that this (co-op proposal) is at all close to a nationwide public option," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "Right now, this co-op idea doesn't come close to satisfying anyone who wants a public plan."

Two recent news media polls have found public support for a government plan, even if many people are unsure about its implications. The most recent survey, a New York Times-CBS News poll released Sunday, found that 72 percent supported the idea, including half of those who identified themselves as Republicans.

House leaders are planning to use the poll results to shore up support for a public plan among moderate Democrats, as three committees hold hearings on legislation this week. In the Senate, divisions over a public plan and concerns about costs are holding up the work of the Finance Committee and may delay Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee as well.

Schumer's role is important because he's been acting as an intermediary between liberal Democrats and moderates who are trying to strike a deal on the issue with Republicans on the Finance Committee. Of the five House and Senate committees working on health care, Finance is the only one that appears to have a chance at reaching a bipartisan agreement. Schumer and Conrad are both Finance members.

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Schumer told The Associated Press that negotiation with Republicans have proved frustrating, saying that he and his Democratic colleagues now may have to go it alone on the issue of a public plan.

He said Finance Republicans had rejected several proposals designed to beef up the suggested nonprofit insurance co-ops. These included setting up a national structure for the co-ops, $10 billion in government seed money, power to negotiate payment rates to medical providers nationwide and creation of a presidentially appointed board of directors.

Conrad said nothing has been finalized.

"Negotiations for a national health care cooperative are ongoing," said Conrad. "The members of the Finance Committee are focused on getting a plan that will pass the committee and be adopted on the floor. "

The contentious issue threatens any remaining prospects of bipartisan support for President Barack Obama's sweeping plan to remake the health care system.

The public plan that most Democrats envision would be offered alongside private plans through a new kind of insurance purchasing pool called an exchange. Individuals and small businesses would be able to buy coverage through exchanges, but eventually businesses of any size might be able to join.

Proponents say having a public plan in the marketplace would put a brake on costs and check the power of insurers. But Republicans, insurers and many business leaders say the government could drive private insurance companies out of business.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., Cantor, said Monday that "a government plan, no matter what you call it, will increase costs" and limit choices. He spoke on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Obama also has been sending signals that he's ready to draw a line. He recently said that if Congress wants a bipartisan bill, it's up to House and Senate Republicans.

It's unclear when Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., will unveil his proposal. Initial cost estimates well above their 10-year, $1 trillion target forced senators to start over.

The next few weeks will be critical. Democrats want to push ahead as far as they can before the July 4 congressional recess. Over the break, comments from constituents could determine whether Congress sticks to its goal of passing legislation this summer.

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A former CIGNA V.P. testified to Congress how health insurance companies screw the public to increase their profits‏:

http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_files/PotterTestimonyConsumerHealthInsurance.pdf

This is why 72% want a public option. Everyone would want one if they read this testimony.

Private insurance companies are in business to make as much money as they can, and they do this by denying claims and not insuring people who have health problems. How hard is it to figure this out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/27/2009
- quidam56 I'm a Fan of quidam56 6 fans permalink

As a former health care giver, I am sad to see what has become of health care in America. Clearly Profit Care comes ahead of Patient Care. We must have public option, so what if it puts the greedy bastards out of business. www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 06/24/2009
- SpectCon I'm a Fan of SpectCon 11 fans permalink
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Health care reform will pass, but it will just be a bailout for the insurance companies.

The heavily regulated private insurance market has failed and is unsustainable, they can't be saved. The longer we let them steal money off the backs of business and labor, the more screwed we'll be down the road when it really has to be fixed.

Just consider: The private insurance companies cannot find a profitable way add 40 million new customers. That's not a healthy private system, that's a diseased system that needs to be shut down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 06/23/2009
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Canada health care is so HORRIBLE that their heart attack death rates declined rapidly after 1994.

"Researchers at the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences (ICES) found that deaths from heart disease fell by 30 per cent between 1994 and 2004, from 36 per 10,000 the first year to 25 per 10,000 a decade later. "
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/06/22/heart-disease-deaths.html?ref=rss

Thank God the United States doesn't do as the Canadians do.

And, thank God some of our representatives want us to continue doing as we are doing now.

Otherwise, we would live much longer and healthier lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 06/23/2009

I am astounded by how many are willing to turn over their health care
to the gang that brought us Amtrak, the post office, the Immigration
service, SSI, the Pentagon (and its $6000 toilet), the Federal Reserve, the SEC, AIG, "don't ask, don't tell", corn ethanol, Walter Reed VA Hospital, etc. Time doesn't allow me to continue the list, but for those of you who think Medicare is a success: it insures 45 million and is projected to be in the hole $35 TRILLION! Have any of you even read Kennedy's bill. After 10 years and $1.5 TRILLION, there will still be 37 million uninsured. I strongly suggest you read the CBO's reports and the bills themselves if you have the time. Cost containment and reform are needed but the current proposals are flawed beyond repair. BYW, if the public option were so wonderful, why does the bill specifically exempt government employees and the unions???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 06/22/2009
- Irmanator I'm a Fan of Irmanator 34 fans permalink
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Turn over the INSURANCE of health care. You would rather pay profits to an insurance company and let them pick and choose who to insure?
What is your better idea?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 06/23/2009
- SpectCon I'm a Fan of SpectCon 11 fans permalink
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Take a xanax and let the adults handle this. There is no reason to be frightened. You have an over-active amygdala and under-utilized forebrain. The current system is terrible and all reasonable people know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 06/23/2009

A former CIGNA V.P. testified to Congress how health insurance companies screw the public to increase profits. Here are the facts--straight from the horse’s mouth‏:

http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_files/PotterTestimonyConsumerHealthInsurance.pdf

This is why 72% of the people want a public insurance option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 06/27/2009
- msjimmied I'm a Fan of msjimmied 55 fans permalink
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The only hope of real change in a public form of health care. All compromises be damned. I would rather have the government between me and the doctor than an insurance company. The argument that there will not be enough money to cover the cost is ridiculous for the insurance companies to make. At 5 bucks for an aspirin, they are raking it in. They just don't want the gravy train to stop. Just like Wall Street, the bonuses continue...they just don't get it. This administration has to stop compromising with the people who want to keep the status quo, it cannot be maintained. Look where we are at now. Medications cost more in the US than even in Canada, not to say what the companies charge in other countries. They can discriminate against us because they can, and because we have no choice. It needs to stop now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 06/22/2009
- mollysgran I'm a Fan of mollysgran 3 fans permalink
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"Dem's may have to go it alone"........ well big fat DUH!!! What took you so long to figure that out? Why are so many congresspersons -- seemingly -- so far behind the curve?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 06/22/2009
- ohsapient1 I'm a Fan of ohsapient1 27 fans permalink
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Because it is a concept, in Washington more honored in the breech than in the observance. The concept is called LEADERSHIP. It might actually involve a "courageous" vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 06/22/2009
- moxieme I'm a Fan of moxieme 14 fans permalink

I don't think most of our elected officials have a clue as to how many of us are suffering at this momnet. I know I need medical care. I know countless individuals and families who are uninsured/underinsured. The mean-spiritedness of those in the opposition is heartbreaking. They offer nothing as an alternative. The degrade and denigrate those of us withour insurance. they label us as slackers. "We should just pull ourselves up by our bootstraps" is their justification for opposing healtcare reform. Band together, Dems, band together. I am a reformed Republican. I can't believe the years I wasted in the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/22/2009
- blastit I'm a Fan of blastit 13 fans permalink

if centrist Democrates who in my opinion are not real Democrates don't fully support a public health option, then there names need to be spread across America so that we can be sure to vote t hem out of office come election time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 06/22/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 62 fans permalink

take a stand.
http://www.1payer.net/action-alerts/313-national-rally.html
National Rally for Health Care For All Now - DC
tell everyone you know about this.

enough talking, time to act.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 06/22/2009
- pfrogger I'm a Fan of pfrogger 62 fans permalink

June 26th, be there!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/22/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 212 fans permalink
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This effort to produce some sort of a bipartisan plan is, in essence, a sellout to the private insurance industry. Forget about bipartisanship! To be bipartisan in this particular instance is a surrender to FAILURE and the abandonment of the American people who so desperately want REAL reform. Go the "reconciliation route" and avoid the silly 60 vote requirement. This legislation is far too important to do otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 06/22/2009

May? trust me, you'll have to. No republican will vote for a public option or god forbid what people really want, single payer. Just pass the damn thing, don't listen to the media, they don't speak for people anymore, I'm not sure they ever did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 06/22/2009
- judesuper I'm a Fan of judesuper 30 fans permalink
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No compromise! Kick the repubs to the curb. We want the public option. Pass it utilizing reconciliation. That way 51 dems will be guaranteed to get re-elected. And we will FINALLY have our health care option.

Arizona, vote McCain OUT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 06/22/2009
- Konnie I'm a Fan of Konnie 20 fans permalink

i posted this previously over on kos....................how about the demorcratic leadership
hire the publicty agent for sasha baron cohen to run the campaign for single payer
national health care.

if that genius can make that freak a star think what he could accomplish for
a good idea that every sane person wants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 06/22/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Great new tool to send free faxes to YOUR congress people.

The faxes are written to push single payer and you can customize them any way you want.

http://www.1payer.net/faxapp/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 06/22/2009
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