Saudi Women Train To Sell Lingerie

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DONNA ABU-NASR | June 24, 2009 12:02 PM EST | AP

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Using colorful bras donated by employees at Victoria's Secret, a group of 26 mostly Saudi women completed the first course of its kind to be offered in the kingdom _ how to fit, stock and sell underwear _ a training organizers hope will help boost a campaign to lift the ban on women selling underwear in the kingdom.

The graduates held a small ceremony at a college in the western seaport of Jiddah on Tuesday, capping 40 hours of instruction during which they learned to overcome their embarrassment at doing bra fittings, deal with customer complaints and display the stock in an appealing manner.

"It was a beautiful experience," said Faten Abdo, a 32-year-old coordinator in the offices of a lingerie company.

"The most shocking thing for me was the bra sizes," she added. "We didn't know how to get proper measurements before."

The 10-day course comes three months after a group of Saudi women launched a campaign to boycott lingerie stores until they employ women. Almost all the stores in the kingdom are staffed by men. The only exceptions are a few women-only boutiques, some of them inside popular shopping centers.

The restrictions are ironic in a country that goes to great lengths to segregate the sexes. Men and women, for instance, who are not close relatives cannot stand in the same line at fast-food outlets or even be in the same car together. Conservative clerics have strong influence on government and society, and they ban anything they believe might lead to women's emancipation, such as driving or voting.

But those pushing for saleswomen in lingerie stores say they were tired of discussing intimate details with male staff and enduring their scrutiny when they ask for a particular cup size.

Their aim is to push for implementation of a law that has been on the books since 2006 which says only female staff can be employed in women's apparel stores. The law has never been put into effect, partly due to hard-liners in the religious establishment who oppose employing women in mixed environments like malls.

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Because of the mortification many women feel ordering bras, thongs and negligees, the lack of trained sales staff and the absence of fitting rooms _ they're banned because the idea of a woman undressing in a public place is unthinkable _ many women end up with the wrong underwear size.

The training was the idea of Suhair al-Qurashi, head of the private Dar al-Hekma College, according to Reem Asaad, a finance lecturer at the college and the main force behind the boycott campaign.

"She wanted the training to be a part of the solution because the industry was complaining that there's a lack of qualified (women) in the market who can run and manage lingerie stores," said Asaad. "So we covered fitting and technical issues, we covered selling and handling customer complaints."

The trainer was an Australian woman who had heard about the boycott campaign online and then offered to give the course.

A group of Victoria's Secret employees who also heard about the campaign on Facebook sent a box filled with colorful cotton bras to be used in the training, according to Asaad.

Suzanne al-Hindi, 33, one of 26 graduates, said she and the other women were "shy at first to play-role and do fittings on each other, but we got over it."

British consul-general in Jiddah Kate Rudd said she attended Tuesday's ceremony to show support for the idea that women should be allowed to play a more active role. "It was a small step, but perhaps from this little drop there will be bigger ripples," said Rudd.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Using colorful bras donated by employees at Victoria's Secret, a group of 26 mostly Saudi women completed the first course of its kind to be offered in the kingdom _ how t...
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Using colorful bras donated by employees at Victoria's Secret, a group of 26 mostly Saudi women completed the first course of its kind to be offered in the kingdom _ how t...
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- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 43 fans permalink

best keep sanford out of riyadh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 06/24/2009
- NilesCrane I'm a Fan of NilesCrane 11 fans permalink

How dare they! what next? letting them vote? or worse, drive! all this will lead one day to woman being allowed walk down a street with a male, who by the way isnt a relative!!!!

lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/24/2009
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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While wearing a Burqa, are Saudi women concerned about visible panty lines?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/24/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 216 fans permalink
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Saudi women do not wear Burqa, they wear the Nijab. They do not have to worry about panty lines because they are required to be fully covered with clothes underneath.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 06/24/2009
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 18 fans permalink
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actually, women in saudi arabia, even women who aren't from there, or even muslim, are required to cover up when out in public.... i believe they may have a choice between nijab and burqa, but i read a book by a woman who was a doctor and worked in saudi arabia for a few years and her account says you must cover everything. the book is called "The Land of Invisible Women"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 06/25/2009
- nevadagirl I'm a Fan of nevadagirl 5 fans permalink

Toga! Toga! Doesn't matter what you call it. Controlling women and thier bodies is an ongoing battle for conservatives worldwide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 06/25/2009
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Give us those tasty pictures! Get your act together HP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 06/24/2009
- Ronju01 I'm a Fan of Ronju01 11 fans permalink
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why this is in HP !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 06/24/2009
- cjt1957 I'm a Fan of cjt1957 19 fans permalink

Far more important than most of the stuff found here....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 06/24/2009
- johnr49 I'm a Fan of johnr49 73 fans permalink

Then why are you here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 06/25/2009

Why are you on the world page if you have no interest in what's going on in the world? This, like the bra burnings here in America, is one small step for womankind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 06/25/2009

Whoa that single pic on the front page looks to be of a tasty little treat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 06/24/2009
- 4KixAfter6 I'm a Fan of 4KixAfter6 59 fans permalink
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wheres the pics?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 06/24/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 229 fans permalink
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What escaped from Pandora's box? Lingerie, of course.

If I was created in Allah's image then the Almighty must love naughty garter belts and push-up bras every bit as much as I do.

Lingerie is like Viagra you can use over and over and over again.

The story I've always heard is that the Arabs obey the 500 mile "businessman's" rule. Actually as SOON as the wheels of the jet lift off they drink and fornicate like nobody's business. It's why the RICH Saudis love to travel OUT of the Kingdom so often.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 06/24/2009

What in the heck are they doing wearing bras anyway? That's a western invention, and everything from the West is evil, so say the mullas.

Although some women would argue that bras ARE an evil invention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 06/24/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 229 fans permalink
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Saggy boobs are far more evil than the meanest bra.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/24/2009
- LITU I'm a Fan of LITU 89 fans permalink
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Makes ya wonder why the Watusi men stay with their wives don'() it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 06/24/2009

spoken like someone who neither owns a pair nor is likely to ever see a pair in the foreseeable future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 06/25/2009

Ouch! What size is this girdle, anyway?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 06/24/2009

Paging Randi Rhodes' Friday:

Gals, it's great living in a democracy today, where freedom is everywhere­...

women of the 21st century... proclaim your freedom... be glad that your an American!

Proclaim your freedom...­.

Bounce Your Boobies... Let em rock n roll...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 06/24/2009
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 30 fans permalink
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We truly should have a "Prime Directive" when it comes to dealing with backward nations...­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 06/24/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 229 fans permalink
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To force Captain Kirk to keep his "communicator" in his pants when encountering lingerie wearing Saudi women?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 06/24/2009
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 30 fans permalink
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Well, there's that..... :-}

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 06/24/2009
- mrkdds I'm a Fan of mrkdds 3 fans permalink

and these are the people in the middle east we consider allies? they are repressive to an obscence level...al­l because we buy their gas and they can act anyway they want with all that money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 06/24/2009
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They are more than allies; they are sponsors of American reality tv shows. What a better way to repress a nation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 06/24/2009
- Dial8 I'm a Fan of Dial8 8 fans permalink
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umm... slideshow please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 06/24/2009
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Right?!? I was hoping that the cover (teaser) shot was the new style of burka.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 06/24/2009

Yeah, that's the freedom of woman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/24/2009
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I think if VS wants to support womens rights they need to stand up against the slavery and abuse of women in Saudi not supply lingerie for pedophiles, because the only ones that are going to be wearing these outfits are pre-pubescent girls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 06/24/2009

Slavery, abuse, pedophilia? What?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 06/24/2009
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How about supporting the rights of lesbians in Saudi Arabia? Don’t forget that some of the female lingerie sellers could be lesbians and they would love to have some fun too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 06/24/2009
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