Obama Open To Individual Mandates But With Robust Hardship Protections

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First Posted: 06-24-09 02:37 PM   |   Updated: 06-24-09 03:04 PM

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In an ABC interview that aired on Wednesday, President Barack Obama acknowledged that his thinking on an individual mandate for insurance coverage has "evolved" since the days of the campaign, when he routinely attacked his primary opponent, then Sen. Hillary Clinton, for the idea.

Later in the day, however, the White House spokesman Robert Gibbs stressed that Obama wasn't straying too far from his initial objections to required coverage, stressing that any mandate would have to include a "pretty stringent hardship waiver" for those individuals who could not pay for insurance.

Speaking at the Daily Press briefing, Gibbs acknowledged that Obama had done some rethinking on the mandate matter. The primary motive, he said, was that major stakeholders in the debate would not support any compromise proposal that did not require the vast majority of 49 million uninsured Americans to be brought into the pool of consumers.

"As the process moves forward in the Senate and the House the president wants to be flexible to the degree to which a piece of legislation will come forward," Gibbs said. "In terms of ensuring that everyone is covered, the president is now open to this idea. I think ... with all the parties and stakeholders involved, there has been discussion that it would be hard to get everyone at the table to stay at the table, if you are not getting that larger universe of people covered."

The remarks cap what has been a gradual, but widely predicted, move by the White House. During the campaign, the president stressed that an individual mandate would be overly burdensome to families who could not afford the costs. But on Wednesday, the president told ABC's Diane Sawyer, "People have made some pretty compelling arguments to me that if we want to have a system that drives down costs for everybody, then we've got to have healthier people not opt out of the system," said Obama.

Adding a bit of meat to the bones, Gibbs said on Wednesday that the president's original concern had not changed and that he would press for additions to the mandate to protect financially vulnerable consumers.

"If the help that they are getting is still not sufficient enough for them to afford it," Gibbs said, "we have to examine a robust hardship waiver."

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In an ABC interview that aired on Wednesday, President Barack Obama acknowledged that his thinking on an individual mandate for insurance coverage has "evolved" since the days of the campaign, when he...
In an ABC interview that aired on Wednesday, President Barack Obama acknowledged that his thinking on an individual mandate for insurance coverage has "evolved" since the days of the campaign, when he...
 
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- gditty I'm a Fan of gditty 29 fans permalink
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Another trial ballon to test the waters.....stay calm!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 06/24/2009
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I am NOT staying calm about this! It is too da.mn important. Single Payer/Medicare for All advocates were completely shut out of these discussions by the White House and the Congress. Why?!!! And not surprisingly at the same time, the royal red carpet was rolled out to welcome big Pharma, Insurance and Medical INDUSTRY folks to the table.

If we don't scream now and scream loud for what we want, we will get nothing more than a bill that puts more profits in the pockets of the INDUSTRY to the further detriment of the the American public's health. That's where we are headed folks and in a big hurry too.

PICK UP THE PHONE PEOPLE and demand SINGLE PAYER!

Dept of HHS phone is 1-877-696-6775
Max Baucus is 202-224-2651
Finance committee is (202) 224-4515
White House is 202-456-1414
Other committee member contacts can be found here:

http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/committee.htm

And take a look at the House bill HR676: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/

Scroll down to see if your congressional rep is among the 75 co-sponsors of the bill. Don't see them listed? CALL them and ask WHY?!!!

Go here to look up your Congressional Rep's phone number:
http://www.house.gov/zip/ZIP2Rep.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 06/24/2009
- MAH999 I'm a Fan of MAH999 32 fans permalink

No robust, national public option, no mandate.

Dems get this done, or you'll be as dead as the repos in 2010.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 06/24/2009

That it might damage insurers should not be a consideration inasmuchas insurers for years did not take into account the damage they were doing to those not insured.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 06/24/2009

President Obama should call the health care insurers into the office and tell them exactly that ... that they either back off the lobby effort to kill the public option or by noon the next day 79% who want a public option will drop their current coverage.

Entrenched interest need to be spoken to in a language they understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 06/24/2009
- Knowbetter I'm a Fan of Knowbetter 29 fans permalink
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And the meeting should be held on St. Valentine's Day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 06/24/2009
- LeLoup I'm a Fan of LeLoup 30 fans permalink
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Let's include some senators in the camp of these "entrenched interests".
If they can't see the light, thy must feel the heat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 06/24/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 54 fans permalink

No public plan for you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 06/24/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 75 fans permalink
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no soup for you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 06/24/2009
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So...basically it's going to be like this:

"What do you mean it's not universal healthcare? we're forcing everyone to buy health insurance. See? That's universal healthcare"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/24/2009
- Boneszy I'm a Fan of Boneszy 2 fans permalink
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mandates are scary!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/24/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 646 fans permalink
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no! no! no! I will not be 'mandated' to pay for useless coverage! no! If it ain't single-payer, then I ain't buyin' it! Period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/24/2009
- johnsonc20 I'm a Fan of johnsonc20 32 fans permalink
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So the plan ends up with no public option, but a mandate to buy overpriced and incomplete coverage from the insurance vultures - mission accomplished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 06/24/2009

Well, Mr. President,

Keep considering your options, but consider this:

REQUIRING us to buy health care means we have to be able to afford it, which means
REQUIRING an affordable public option.

Because if you don't, those of us who will refuse to buy health care will get it free when you start spending billions of taxpayer dollars to put us all in jail for breaking your new law.

It's called dollars and sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/24/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 54 fans permalink

You say you want a revolution well you know, we all want to save the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 06/24/2009
- Rickter I'm a Fan of Rickter 8 fans permalink
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Public option, or every spineless wimp in the senate will be looking for a job next year. Don't crumble Mr. Pres... This is your chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 06/24/2009
- orangemom I'm a Fan of orangemom 2 fans permalink

1000% agree!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/24/2009
- avchavis I'm a Fan of avchavis 202 fans permalink
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AMEN to that! Especially spineless Harry Reid!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/24/2009
- harveyr2 I'm a Fan of harveyr2 19 fans permalink

More Obama lies.

There is nothing so wrong with the health insurance market that warrants the government power grab that is underway. Yes, there are areas to fix and that can be fixed without the government taking control of the health care industry.

When people couldn't afford food the government didn't create a supermarket chain to compete with the profit-hungry supermarkets. So, when people can't afford health care, why should the government create a health insurance company? There is no reason not to implement the equivalent of food stamps for those who can't afford health insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 06/24/2009

When people couldn't afford food the government didn't create a supermarket chain

Apparently fox does not teach you much-

Go read a history book - just go back to World War II

Or maybe the fox and Australian show can teach you what happened

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/24/2009
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 646 fans permalink
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lol. true enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/24/2009
- smchp I'm a Fan of smchp 75 fans permalink
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They would have to read at higher than 5th grade level first. I don't think they make childrens books on this stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 06/24/2009
- clifflyon I'm a Fan of clifflyon 10 fans permalink
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Ditto DestinationsUnknown DITTO!

The educational system by Boob Tube is killing us softly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 06/24/2009
- JeffE I'm a Fan of JeffE 8 fans permalink

This is one of the nuttier arguments I've seen, obviously made by someone who has no concept of what Obama is suggesting. The food stamp comparison is a nonsequitor and contradictory. First, you say that government doesn't intervene when people can't afford food, then you cite the example of food stamps (a government subsidy).

In case you haven't been listening, Obama is not proposing taking control of the health care industry. He's simply proposing a public option for insurance. Doctors, hospitals, even insurance companies remain private enterprises. But for those who don't have insurance, or who don't like or can't afford the insurance they have, a public option will be offered. By offering such a self-sustaining, non-profit option, all Americans will be covered, driving down costs and ensuring preventative care.

If you really think "nothing is so wrong with the health insurance market," then you're either living a very priviledged life or you're living in an alternate universe. If nothing is done to correct this broken system, none of us will be able to afford to get sick - or stay healthy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 06/24/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 54 fans permalink

He doesn't care what gets passed, as long as something does and he can take credit for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 06/24/2009
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 93 fans permalink

That's just a ridiculous, uninformed comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/24/2009

It's called REALITY, buddy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 06/24/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 173 fans permalink

Oh please, a mandate was always the carrot.

How could he be so stupid as to not get that?

So what now. If he tries to slide off mandate so we get some Federal oversight that he promises will make things right?

I know, I'll simply rebel.

No way. I'm not buying in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 06/24/2009

Do you drive- ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 06/24/2009
- wijg I'm a Fan of wijg 36 fans permalink
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Pretty words. Not one mention of a "public option" in this article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 06/24/2009
- iedit I'm a Fan of iedit 9 fans permalink

Single payer. Everyone's covered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 06/24/2009
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Everyone is in. No one is out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 06/24/2009
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DMV with stethescopes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 06/24/2009
- helen I'm a Fan of helen 34 fans permalink
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And your point is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 06/24/2009

any original thoughts?

just fox and the australian network training you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 06/24/2009
- eciaccio I'm a Fan of eciaccio 12 fans permalink

Medicare for all would bother you? You actually think our current profit-care system is worth keeping? Perhaps you're a Representataive or Senator, with great health care already, courtesy of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 06/24/2009
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 122 fans permalink

Medicare without insurance company bureaucrats denying coverage. Or Social Security delivering 50+ million checks a months without error and minimal costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 06/24/2009
- johnsonc20 I'm a Fan of johnsonc20 32 fans permalink
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Go to Canada and find out the truth before you comment on the blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/24/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 173 fans permalink

He has no real support from the far left. You're all out in MM land.

No wonder it won't pass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 06/24/2009
- wijg I'm a Fan of wijg 36 fans permalink
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"He has no real support from the far left."

Ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 06/24/2009
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 93 fans permalink

You are clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 06/24/2009
- freedomis I'm a Fan of freedomis 4 fans permalink

He had and that helied on everything from the bogus war,envior­nment,heal­thcare,civ­il rights.My fingers are getting cramps.Tony

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 06/24/2009
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