Obama Open To Individual Mandates But With Robust Hardship Protections

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First Posted: 06-24-09 02:37 PM   |   Updated: 06-24-09 03:04 PM

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In an ABC interview that aired on Wednesday, President Barack Obama acknowledged that his thinking on an individual mandate for insurance coverage has "evolved" since the days of the campaign, when he routinely attacked his primary opponent, then Sen. Hillary Clinton, for the idea.

Later in the day, however, the White House spokesman Robert Gibbs stressed that Obama wasn't straying too far from his initial objections to required coverage, stressing that any mandate would have to include a "pretty stringent hardship waiver" for those individuals who could not pay for insurance.

Speaking at the Daily Press briefing, Gibbs acknowledged that Obama had done some rethinking on the mandate matter. The primary motive, he said, was that major stakeholders in the debate would not support any compromise proposal that did not require the vast majority of 49 million uninsured Americans to be brought into the pool of consumers.

"As the process moves forward in the Senate and the House the president wants to be flexible to the degree to which a piece of legislation will come forward," Gibbs said. "In terms of ensuring that everyone is covered, the president is now open to this idea. I think ... with all the parties and stakeholders involved, there has been discussion that it would be hard to get everyone at the table to stay at the table, if you are not getting that larger universe of people covered."

The remarks cap what has been a gradual, but widely predicted, move by the White House. During the campaign, the president stressed that an individual mandate would be overly burdensome to families who could not afford the costs. But on Wednesday, the president told ABC's Diane Sawyer, "People have made some pretty compelling arguments to me that if we want to have a system that drives down costs for everybody, then we've got to have healthier people not opt out of the system," said Obama.

Adding a bit of meat to the bones, Gibbs said on Wednesday that the president's original concern had not changed and that he would press for additions to the mandate to protect financially vulnerable consumers.

"If the help that they are getting is still not sufficient enough for them to afford it," Gibbs said, "we have to examine a robust hardship waiver."

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In an ABC interview that aired on Wednesday, President Barack Obama acknowledged that his thinking on an individual mandate for insurance coverage has "evolved" since the days of the campaign, when he...
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The good news, if they just let us keep losing jobs, home, health care, more of us will die and there will be more money for the wealthy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/24/2009

not poop just add a increase % 2 or 3 % in sales tax period.full Health care for all . all purchases..no up front money needed and oh well insurance companies loose their jobs..tell them all, welcome to club like everyone else...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/24/2009
- Kingstone I'm a Fan of Kingstone 2 fans permalink

What can Obama do when Dems in the Senate are bunch of cowards. Obama been fighting for this,but Dems are tooooooooooooooo weak in the Senate side. Please do not re-elect them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/24/2009
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 217 fans permalink
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I agree with you. He can't get anything done with the Democravens in congress.

http://kennethmarkhoover.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 06/24/2009

Ed Shultz just said if Obama caves on health care, he'll only get one term. I couldn't agree more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 06/24/2009
- underoath I'm a Fan of underoath 264 fans permalink
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I don't think he'll be a one termer but he won't get the support that he got the first time around

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/24/2009
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He will be gone before one term if he ignores what is happening to Main Street Americans!

The pa!n is too GREAT to IGNORE!

Americans have reached the limit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 06/24/2009
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I highly doubt that a Republican would win against Obama even IF he caves on healthcare reform because Americans are not done blaming this mess on Republicans, and if that happens, it will be a very sad day for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 06/24/2009

How sad for America indeed. We don't have anyone looking out for our best interest!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 06/24/2009
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As a Republican I can only say this:
Who is he going to run against? Himself?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 06/24/2009
- Lyr I'm a Fan of Lyr 35 fans permalink

The charade will probably be dropped and he'll get the nomination from both parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 06/24/2009
- StPeteDave I'm a Fan of StPeteDave 5 fans permalink

People don't have jobs anymore, they've all been outsourced, so without income, this proposal is p00p.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/24/2009
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$306 to Wall Street for every #1 for Main Street!

No investment in New Manufacturing and NO Trickle Down from the Wall Street Banks!

We have been HAD again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/24/2009
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KQUARK is a staffer for the MAN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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LOL you are so funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/24/2009

YES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 06/24/2009
- zitlight73 I'm a Fan of zitlight73 43 fans permalink

It comes down to regulating the hell out of the insurance companies who have been running rough-shod over their customers for years. Without major insurance reform and not just health insurance either but all insurance nthis debate is meaningless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 06/24/2009
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Buffett is the second richest man in America after 30 years of OUTRAGEOUS Profits in Insurnace!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/24/2009
- ChelseaC I'm a Fan of ChelseaC 200 fans permalink
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His entire cabinent is full of Wall St. insiders and corporation heads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/24/2009
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The doctors are not doing that bad. HCA is not doing that bad. Drug makers are not doing that bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 06/24/2009
- zitlight73 I'm a Fan of zitlight73 43 fans permalink

We the People, not so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 06/24/2009
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""pretty stringent hardship waiver" '

without this it means NOTHING to MILLIONS of us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Krugnac the reason Medicare costs are higher than they should be is because PROFITCARE let's provider costs spin out of control. Yet Medicare still has under 3% overhead costs while profitcare overhead costs are over 30%. The more people who have or pay into public healthcare the more leverage the government will have to lower costs that's the point.

Did you even bother to read the link I posted earlier?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090624/ts_nm/us_insurance_options_2

"Public health plan could save money faster: policy group"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/24/2009
- ChelseaC I'm a Fan of ChelseaC 200 fans permalink
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Medicare part D--big pharma got their grubby hands on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Exactly but at least the president used his leverage to lower their costs like Bush did not if you had not noticed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 06/24/2009
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"Profitcare" overhead is about 8% for major insurers. The 30% number is cherry picked from the very most expensive individual plans available anywhere, and are not in any way representative of the true cost. Throwing it around like it's representative is misleading and counterproductive.

I did read your link, and guess what it says? Even a full blown Medicare type option would do NOTHING to reduce health care costs.

"Still, an exchange won't keep health costs from rising, the report added."

Oops!

Since it's the spiraling health costs that are bankrupting us, that's a pretty big flaw, don't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 06/24/2009

Yes to much sense is right ...being bamboozled and republ fear mongering...all is greed..greed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 06/24/2009

Wait for a cup of coffee Mc Donalds shortage also of Drs.. but if emerg flown in somewhere with hours...they find it and notify hospital or them..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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PhilipTaylor even myth busters who are for single payer admit problems in Canadian healthcare.

"3. Wait times in Canada are horrendous.
True and False again -- it depends on which province you live in, and what's wrong with you. Canada's health care system runs on federal guidelines that ensure uniform standards of care, but each territory and province administers its own program. Some provinces don't plan their facilities well enough; in those, you can have waits. Some do better. As a general rule, the farther north you live, the harder it is to get to care, simply because the doctors and hospitals are concentrated in the south. But that's just as true in any rural county in the U.S."

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/76032/?page=2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 06/24/2009
- ChelseaC I'm a Fan of ChelseaC 200 fans permalink
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KQ,
The "wait lists" are a big propoganda myth.
Please, don't buy into that.
I have many Canadian friends who say otherwise.
Plus, I spent a lot of time in Montreal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Did you read the article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/24/2009
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MORE BS!

Have you even been there for services? If Not stop the BS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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IT"S ON ALTERNET A VERY LIBERAL WEBSITE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 06/24/2009
- TaosJohn I'm a Fan of TaosJohn 3 fans permalink

Geez, if I try to get an appointment with a doctor here in Taos (U.S.A.), it takes four to six weeks! Who's worried about longer "wait times"? That's a myth. I don't know anyone in America who DOESN'T have to wait to see a doctor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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That's part of what the quote says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 06/24/2009
- TaosJohn I'm a Fan of TaosJohn 3 fans permalink

And furthermore, I wouldn't mind waiting a long, long time if my low-cost government insurance would PAY for the treatment. As it is, we already have to wait and get almost nothing for our premiums. I would trade our system for any of the other developed countries' health care in a freaking heartbeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 06/24/2009
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There are a shortage of docs in rural areas in Canada--same in the rural US.
This has nothing to do with single payer, but a lack of docs wanting to live in rural areas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 06/24/2009

hello no cost up front all comes from % from sales tax purchases period....pay as you go...and never receive any billing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/24/2009

Government in Canada is fair same price no matter who pulls your tooth, paid the same.....to pull a tooth right across the board same with family doctors visit all same price no matter who they go to...etc..stops fraud or over inflating period

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 06/24/2009
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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It makes too much sense

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 06/24/2009
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Not true at all. Provinces set costs not the central government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 06/24/2009
- ChelseaC I'm a Fan of ChelseaC 200 fans permalink
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True, different provices charge different rate but it's all gov. paid but the docs are private. They have both community and private owed hiospitals--all take the single payer payment.
The Canadian system is very good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/24/2009
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