Transformers' Jive-Talking Robots Raise Race Issues

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SANDY COHEN | 06/24/09 09:23 PM | AP

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In this film publicity image released by Paramount Pictures, twin robots, Skids, left, and Mudflap are shown in a scene from, "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. (AP Photo/Paramount Pictures)

LOS ANGELES — Harmless comic characters or racist robots? The buzz over the summer blockbuster "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" only grew Wednesday as some said two jive-talking Chevy characters were racial caricatures. Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact hatchbacks, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But their traits raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I _ The Phantom Menace," was criticized as a caricature.

One fan called the Transformers twins "Jar Jar Bots" in a blog post online.

Todd Herrold, who watched the movie in New York City, called the characters "outrageous."

"It's one thing when robot cars are racial stereotypes," he said, "but the movie also had a bucktoothed black guy who is briefly in one scene who's also a stereotype."

"They're like the fools," said 18-year-old Nicholas Govede, also of New York City. "The comic relief in a degrading way."

Not all fans were offended. Twin brothers Jason and William Garcia, 18, who saw the movie in Miami, said they related to the characters _ not their illiteracy, but their bickering.

"They were hilarious," Jason said. "Every movie has their standout character, and I think they were the ones for this movie."

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In Atlanta, Rico Lawson said people were reading too much into the characters. "It was actually funny," said Lawson, 25, who saw the movie with his girlfriend in Atlanta.

That was the aim, director Michael Bay said in an interview.

"It's done in fun," he said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes _ they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."

Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

Actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids.

Wilson said Wednesday that he never imagined viewers might consider the twins to be racial caricatures. When he took the role, he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were "wannabe gangster types."

"It's an alien who uploaded information from the Internet and put together the conglomeration and formed this cadence, way of speaking and body language that was accumulated over X amount of years of information and that's what came out," the 40-year-old actor said. "If he had uploaded country music, he would have come out like that."

It's not fair to assume the characters are black, he said.

"It could easily be a Transformer that uploaded Kevin Federline data," Wilson said. "They were just like posers to me."

Kenny did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters aren't integral to the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

"They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel.

"There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

"There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

"Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."

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Associated Press writers Damian Grass in Miami, Ginny Byrne in New York City and Jonathan Landrum Jr. in Atlanta contributed to this report.

LOS ANGELES — Harmless comic characters or racist robots? The buzz over the summer blockbuster "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" only grew Wednesday as some said two jive-talking Chevy chara...
LOS ANGELES — Harmless comic characters or racist robots? The buzz over the summer blockbuster "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" only grew Wednesday as some said two jive-talking Chevy chara...
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- heather65 I'm a Fan of heather65 8 fans permalink
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it was also done in the first transformers...peep that movie again, and you'll see the breakdancin' autobot with the street slang

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 06/24/2009
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Skids and Mudflap were the most irritating useless characters in a movie since Jar Jar Binks (I really don't get why my theater was totally laughing at any of their lame jokes and so few peopled didn't clap when they nearly got killed off finally). I didn't mind the movie for the action after that it seemed pretty pointless 2.5 out of 5 probably best to see this at IMAX cause its probably lame at smaller screens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 06/24/2009
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I think it would be a viable controversy if there weren't any other black characters in it, but I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that Optimus Prime is black. He's more of a Morgan Freeman, Sidney Poitier kind of black guy than your Dave Chapelle, Kat Williams kind of black guy. You know, the kind that can play God. If only there was a healthy medium robot...Samuel Jackson doing the voice of an Autobot in Transformers 3!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 06/24/2009
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The Transformers mimic behaviour they've observed on TV, radio etc....That's why they appear as overblown examples of certain elements of pop-culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 06/24/2009
- aftershock I'm a Fan of aftershock 101 fans permalink

Well at least I don't feel like such a nerd now that someone else posted it lol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 06/24/2009
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Just in case there's any further confusion, the Transformers tendency to emulate things is the entire reason why they take the form of vehicles in the first instance, since they assumed that the cars, trucks etc....that are commonly seen all over the world were the dominant species of the planet, so they took their forms to fit in and hide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 06/24/2009
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I agree, this is a non story. Urban slang, predominantly used by urban black kids, is real. It only becomes a problem when its a super-nerdy white guy trying to emulate urban black kids and really messing the dialogue up...thats's when it becomes just unbearable to watch

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 06/24/2009

And that is precisely the problem. It reeked of a white guy writer trying way too hard.

When I saw the first Transformers movie, I cringed at at the dancing, jive talking autobot. For me, it WAS unbearable to watch

*Why in the world was he dancing, the world was in danger? just a thought*

Its difficult to explain this inauthenticity to people, but please take my word for it, it is quite obvious to this black viewer that this character was written by a nerdy white guy. Clearly, this robot was emulating what the writers thought was "black" behavior, ie dancing and jive taking. While the actor playing the part may be black, he was simply giving them (writers and producers) what they wanted (sadly).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 06/24/2009
- heather65 I'm a Fan of heather65 8 fans permalink
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exactly.
the co-opting of negative stereotypes because some writer thinks it's "hip" or "jiggy" is no excuse...this is far from a non-story.
why not just have an actor who happens to be black do the voice of the robots without the use of outdated slang and gold teeth?
is that the way they view urban blacks?

i for one, am sick and tired of hollywood's so-called example of what black america is.
some people will never get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 06/24/2009
- noudidnt I'm a Fan of noudidnt 33 fans permalink

Minstrelry is only ok if black actors/rappers are performing it.


Whatever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 06/24/2009
- heather65 I'm a Fan of heather65 8 fans permalink
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not really...it's just a money making ploy by corporate execs.
and unfortunately, the consumers buying into it don't see it for what it is and the artists/actors are just as stupid for allowing themselves to be a part of it in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
sadly, the selling of one's soul is lucrative in the entertainment business.
it doesn't take much talent to make the big bucks in this day and age.
real talent should be the commodity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 06/24/2009
- heather65 I'm a Fan of heather65 8 fans permalink
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just want add that i do understand where you're coming from. i''m just disagreeing.
i'm not sure if you're being sarcastic.
my sarcasm meter is out of whack today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 06/24/2009

No it really isn't ever OK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 06/24/2009
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