Air France Pilot, Marc Dubois, Body Retrieved

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June 25, 2009 08:27 AM EST | AP

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In this photo released by Brazil's Navy, pieces of debris of the Air France Flight 447 are seen on the Brazil's navy ship Caboclo, at the port of Recife, Brazil, Friday, June 19, 2009. The Brazilian naval ship Caboclo arrived in the coastal city Recife, carrying a significant amount of debris and passengers' baggage, the military said in an e-mailed statement. The material would immediately be made available to French investigators. (AP Photo/Brazil's Navy/HO) NO SALES

PARIS — Search crews in the mid-Atlantic have retrieved the bodies of the chief pilot of Flight 447 and a flight attendant, Air France said Thursday.

The two are among 50 bodies pulled out of the ocean in the international search for remains of the 228 victims and wreckage of the May 31 crash.

Air France, in a statement on its Web site, said the pilot and male flight attendant have been identified but did not release their names. A pilots' union named the flight captain as Frenchman Marc Dubois.

Earlier this week the international police agency Interpol said 11 of the 50 bodies retrieved had been identified: eight Brazilians, one with joint Brazilian-German citizenship, one Brazilian-Swiss and a Briton.

On Wednesday Germany's Foreign Ministry said three Germans _ two men from Bavaria and a woman from Hamburg _ have been identified. The ministry did not release their names.

The Airbus A330 plane came down in the Atlantic after running into thunderstorms en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. The Brazilian military has led the search and recovery efforts for bodies and debris, while the French are in charge of investigating the crash and the hunt for the flight recorders, or black boxes.

The cause of the crash is unclear. The plane's two black boxes could be key to determining what happened.

But the boxes will only continue to emit signals for a few more days. They send out an electronic tapping sound that can be heard up to 1.25 miles (2 kilometers) away.

French officials said this week that military ships searching for the wreckage have detected sounds in the Atlantic depths but they are not from the flight recorders.

Two French-chartered ships are trolling a search area with a radius of 50 miles (80 kilometers), pulling U.S. Navy underwater listening devices attached to 19,700 feet (6,000 meters) of cable. A French submarine is also searching.

PARIS — Search crews in the mid-Atlantic have retrieved the bodies of the chief pilot of Flight 447 and a flight attendant, Air France said Thursday. The two are among 50 bodies pulled out of t...
PARIS — Search crews in the mid-Atlantic have retrieved the bodies of the chief pilot of Flight 447 and a flight attendant, Air France said Thursday. The two are among 50 bodies pulled out of t...
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- Owlygirl I'm a Fan of Owlygirl 15 fans permalink
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Bless them. By all accounts they never had a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 06/25/2009
- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 64 fans permalink

Somehow, I always end up on planes that don't crash.

Aeroflot's slogan is "We don't crash anymore".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 06/25/2009
- Rigso I'm a Fan of Rigso 2 fans permalink

how do they find these bodies? sharks don't get to them? I guess bodies float but I assumed they would have sunk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 06/25/2009
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 52 fans permalink
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50 out of 228 - so I suppose sharks and injuries got to most of them; bodies float so long as there is no injury to the abdomen; they fill up with decomposing gases and then come up to the surface .

Anyway, I think FAB (the Brazilian Air Force) is doing an amazing job considering that this is probably the worst-case scenario (extremely deep waters away from the shore) in airplane crash operations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/25/2009
- dogman44 I'm a Fan of dogman44 47 fans permalink

Gases in decomposing bodies cause them to float. Sharks are attracted to the
movements of live prey not floating corpses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 06/26/2009
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 76 fans permalink
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could this mean the captain was not belted to his seat?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 06/25/2009
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If this was a weather related crash then it is even more of a human tragedy in relation to all who lost their lives and particularly for the families and loved ones personal losses. Hopefully the crash investigators will be able to get the black boxes recovered to unearth the real cause of this horrific crash. My deepest sympathies lie with the victims families.



http://www.citylocal.co.uk/cities/GlasgowSouth/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 06/25/2009

BA not having the best of luck with its Dreamliner. Not good if your wings fall off....

The latest problem for Boeing(BA Quote) involves about three dozen stress points, each one to two square inches, where the 787 Dreamliner's wings are joined to the aircraft's body, and the amount of stress at the joint is higher than anticipated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 06/25/2009
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The BA wet dream was to outsource everything; it backfired all over them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 06/25/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 386 fans permalink
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I like planes like the 727 and DC-8 that were built back when we were still afraid to fly.

They weren't quite sure how strong they needed to build them so they threw in some extra metal just to make sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/25/2009

Unexplained structural fail is not building confidence in Airbus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 06/25/2009
- frantaylor I'm a Fan of frantaylor 22 fans permalink

There sure is an explanation. You just haven't been paying attention. No known aircraft could have survived those conditions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 06/25/2009
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 78 fans permalink
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What conditions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 06/25/2009
- csavage I'm a Fan of csavage 80 fans permalink
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What conditions? The latest was that there was nothing unusual about the T-storm they flew thru....
An autopsy should give a hint as to what brought the plane down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 06/25/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 386 fans permalink
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We really don't know what happened yet.

One very interesting thing - the flight attendant seats were recovered with no bodies in them.

That is significant because it means the flight attendants were up and about. If the Captain was expecting to encounter severe turbulence he would have had the flight attendants seated.

It makes me think they weren't expecting any trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 06/25/2009
- swanie I'm a Fan of swanie 31 fans permalink
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Just remember, if ANY PLANE encounters strong turbulence flying EITHER too fast OR too slow could be a significant factor in the plane's structural integrity. In other words, it could literally come apart.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 06/25/2009
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There is a possible explanation here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/air-france-crash-bodies-s_n_216864.html. See my post on the second page of the comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 06/25/2009

If you have the patience for the technical jargon there are some very interesting threads by trained pilots and engineers much better suited to make educated guesses. I find this one is particularly insightful:

http://www.jetcrashforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55&start=0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 06/25/2009
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