The Climate Bill Explained

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DINA CAPPIELLO and ERIC CARVIN | 06/25/09 10:07 PM | AP

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Cap-and-trade? Offsets? Pollution credits? The climate bill under consideration in the U.S. House of Representatives tackles global warming with new limits on pollution and a market-based approach to encourage more environmentally friendly business practices. But what exactly do the proposed rules mean, and how would they work?

Some questions and answers about the bill, a top legislative priority for President Barack Obama:

Q: What's the purpose of this legislation?

A: To reduce the gases linked to global warming and to force sources for power to shift away from fossil fuels, which when burned, release heat-trapping gases, and toward cleaner sources of energy such as wind, solar and geothermal.

Q: How does the bill accomplish this?

A: By placing the first national limits on emissions of heat-trapping gases from major sources like power plants, refineries and factories. This limit effectively puts a price on the pollution, raising the cost for companies to continue to use fuels and electricity sources that contribute to global warming. This gives them an incentive to seek cleaner alternatives.

Q: Is this the "cap-and-trade" idea that has been in the news?

A: Yes. The first step in a cap-and-trade program sets a limit on the amount of gases that can be released into the atmosphere. That is the cap. Companies with facilities that are covered by the cap will then receive permits for their share of the pollution, an annual pollution allowance. This bill initially would give the bulk of the permits away for free to help ease costs, but they still would have value because there would be a limited supply. Companies that do not get a big enough allowance to cover their pollution would either have to find ways to reduce it, which can be expensive, or buy additional permits from companies that have reduced pollution enough to have allowances left over. That is the trade. Companies typically would pick the cheaper option: reducing pollution or buying permits. They also have a third choice: They can invest in pollution reductions made elsewhere, such as farms that capture methane or plant trees. These are known as offsets.

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Q: So the idea is to try to reduce the overall level of pollution, regardless of whether, say, a particular factory reduces emissions?

A: That is true in the beginning. But as the cap gets lower and lower, reaching an 83 percent reduction by 2050, eventually all polluters will have to reduce. It is merely a question of when. For instance, it will be very tough for coal plants to reduce emissions at the outset of the program because the technology to capture and store carbon dioxide is not yet commercially available. It probably is 10 to 20 years away. So they will be buying offsets and buying allowances from other entities that will have an easier time.

Q: Do most environmentalists support this approach?

A: Most do, at least broadly. Cap-and-trade has had success. Since 1990, the United States has had a cap-and-trade program for sulfur dioxide, the main culprit in acid rain. Democrats have had to make a lot of concessions to win votes for the current bill from lawmakers from coal, oil and farm states. Some liberal environmentalists think these concessions weaken the bill. For instance, the bill's sponsors have had to lower the cap _ it originally called for a 20 percent cut by 2020 _ to 17 percent. Research suggests that much deeper cuts will be needed globally to avert the most serious consequences of global warming.

Q: Who opposes this approach, and why?

A: Republicans, some farm groups, some environmentalists, the oil industry, which feels it has received too few free permits, and some moderate Democrats. They all worry about the cost and the loss of jobs if industries move to countries that do not have controls on greenhouse gases. The bill has provisions to prevent this, but there are questions whether they will work. Republicans call the bill a national energy tax on every American family. This is because, as industries spend money to reduce pollution or buy credits, they will pass on that cost to consumers, the people who turn on the lights or pump gas in their cars. Recent analyses by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office show that the new rules eventually will cost the average household an extra $175 a year.

Q: Under the bill, what will happen to companies that do not follow the rules?

A: If they exceed their limit, they will have to pay a fine equal to twice the cap-and-trade price for each ton of pollution over the limit.

Q: Other than costs potentially being passed along to consumers, will this affect most Americans' day-to-day lives?

A: It fundamentally will change how we use, produce and consume energy, ending the country's love affair with big gas-guzzling cars and its insatiable appetite for cheap electricity. This bill will put smaller, more efficient cars on the road, swap smokestacks for windmills and solar panels, and transform the appliances you can buy for your home.

Q: How quickly will we notice these changes?

A: Some will occur more quickly than others. For instance, measures to boost energy efficiency in buildings and appliances are the low-hanging fruit that does not require major infrastructure changes or new technologies. Other changes are decades off and probably will come when the cap gets more stringent and permits get more expensive. For instance, the country can build more wind and more solar panels, but currently it lacks the transmission lines to move the energy they generate to population centers. As for cars: While more efficient models are a near-term reality, it will take a while to change out the fleet. Some people will continue driving 10-year-old gas guzzlers.

Q: What are the chances this bill will become law?

A: Both the Obama administration and Democrats want this bill passed by the end of the year, when negotiations for a new international agreement to reduce greenhouse gases get under way in Copenhagen, Denmark. Even as Democrats hold the majority in Congress, it will not be easy to get this enacted. Many moderate Democrats from rural states and conservative districts are worried about the costs and complexity of the legislation when the economy is already weak. Very few Republicans, if any, are expected to support the bill. Approval of a climate bill in the Senate has been viewed as a long shot. Parts of the bill may need to be changed to secure approval in the Senate.

Q: Why is it so important to tackle global warming anyway?

A: Left untended, scientists say, global warming will cause sea levels to rise, increase storms and worsen air pollution. For these reasons, the Environmental Protection Agency recently concluded that six greenhouse gases pose dangers to human health and welfare. And politically, without U.S. action, developing countries like China probably will not agree to mandatory pollution limits.

Cap-and-trade? Offsets? Pollution credits? The climate bill under consideration in the U.S. House of Representatives tackles global warming with new limits on pollution and a market-based approach to ...
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Great.
What would really reduce energy cost and pollution and create actual energy independence, would be for homeowners and multi unit owners to learn to build their own solar panels, wind turbines and batteries, and produce their own energy. Same thing with small electric cars and bikes.
Imagine if the only cost of heating, cooling and transportation was the maintenance cost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 06/26/2009

carbon tax is simpler and more fair than cap and trade

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 06/26/2009
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don't think it'll pass - no one knows enough about the bill and no one's been out there pushing this one

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 06/26/2009
- Tuc0 I'm a Fan of Tuc0 2 fans permalink
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Nobody knew anything about the stimulus bill, either...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 AM on 06/26/2009
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well I was wrong about the passing
surprised by the 8 republican votes

and because no one read it we'll probably feel the worst of it more than the good.

I wonder how this will reflect the health care bill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 06/27/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

It is a long, hard battle, but this Prez. and the Dems are at least trying. Thank goodness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 06/26/2009
- Pigeon2 I'm a Fan of Pigeon2 3 fans permalink

Comrade NoBama won`t be happy until he bankrupts the greatest nation in the world..He is evil & diabolical­......Hope all who voted for this silver tongue devil can sleep at night especially if you have children..­They will be paying for his massive spending for generation­s.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 06/26/2009
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Did you miss GW's 8 years of administration? The trillions spent on Iraq and Afghanistan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 06/26/2009
- Rhetticent I'm a Fan of Rhetticent 21 fans permalink

Have you looked at the bill, mamacat? It does nothing for CO2 for years. But it does create hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxes for Congress to use to bribe you with for your vote.

If you're really serious about doing something about CO2, you should be screaming at your Congressman to vote against this bill, and to do something that will work NOW. A bill that would require conversion of cars, trucks and buses to CNG would hugely effect CO2 emissions. The fact that they won't do this, because it won't generate money for them to spend, proves to me that they don't really think that there's any kind of a crisis.

I just hope you remember how much you love your democrats when your utilities, your gasoline, your food, all cost you 50% more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 06/26/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 159 fans permalink
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Dec. 21st 2012 this may all be a mute point...!

The one thing they won't do is employ alternate energies and stop polluters this is just gonna create another Bubble...!

Watch and see...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 06/26/2009
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Livestock production is the main cause of climate change, please address the primary problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 06/26/2009
- Rhetticent I'm a Fan of Rhetticent 21 fans permalink

Oh no, not according to Pelosi, which is why she's giving much more to agriculture to buy their votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 06/26/2009
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Thanks for scr.ub.bing my comment m.o.d.e.r.­a.t.o.r.
Does Waxman Markey put on ''cap'' on free speech as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 06/26/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 159 fans permalink
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Yup...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 06/26/2009

The FACTS are c02 is not a driver of climate change. The energy bill is another sham hidding as a and environmental improvement. Look at the details, the congress can grant 'exemptions" . Just how does a company earn those? handing out $ maybe. The job losses will be massive the costs huge and the positive impact, zip. And, like the whole global warming scam it diverts attention and resourses from REAL issues. A Texas sized island of plastic floats in the pacific. Deforestation is rampant in all the south pacific, south asia and south America.
We are lied to daily by these so called environmentalist. After all Al Gore has made 100 million dollars so far from this scam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 06/26/2009
- roger37 I'm a Fan of roger37 21 fans permalink

Got some facts to back this up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 06/26/2009
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We've been watching coral reefs, one of the most biodiverse ecosystems on the planet, deteriorate in the face of increased sea water temperatures; sea level is on the rise -go live on a Pacific island if you don't believe it and give us report in a few years:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/301/5635/929

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/warming-coral.html

http://www.erantis.com/events/denmark/copenhagen/climate-conference-2009/index.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/weekinreview/23revkin.html?ex=1303444800&en=a9aa22f6f062b748&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/ipcc

Its about time something substantial be done after more than 10 years of indifference. Wake up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 06/26/2009

"They all worry about the cost and the loss of jobs if industries move to countries that do not have controls on greenhouse gases. The bill has provisions to prevent this, but there are questions whether they will work. "
Just how will Obama prevent any company from moving offshore? Will he deploy US Marshalls, to seize privately owned property? Will he have corporate executives arrested and tried for treason? How about the "midnight knock on the door" for which fascists and communists became notorious? What laws can prevent me from chaining my doors and moving overseas if I, as a free American, choose to do so??
Semper fi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 06/26/2009

You can go, but you lose all your privileges as an American company. You might think you've got it rough, but good luck finding a better business environment overseas when you don't have the protection of US legal status. And, as the owner/CEO, you can leave your citizenship papers at the door. You won't be welcomed back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 06/26/2009

And you have what, exactly, authority to strip an American of his/her citizenship?? Further, with the Socialist mentality of seizure of corporate authority, how do you figure the U.S. is a friendly state?!
Semper fi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 06/26/2009

Are you kidding me? All he would have yo do is remain a US citizen and recieve his salary from the corporation in a US bank account. he doesn't even have to leave town. Yes, it's that easy. And as owner/CEO, he will always remain a citizen and he will be smart to move outside of the constraints of a bully government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 06/26/2009
- marco01 I'm a Fan of marco01 208 fans permalink
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Watch out for those black helicopters

Semper Paratus

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 06/26/2009

Got it!
Semper fi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 06/26/2009
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For a different take check out Matt Taibbi's article in Rolling Stone, The Great American Bubble Machine.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16763183/TaibbiGoldmanSachs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 06/26/2009
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 83 fans permalink
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I'm not sure how to respond to those who are worried about the "cost and loss of jobs if some companies move to countries where they don't have controls on greenhouse gases."

I guess as long as we control costs and make sure no one loses their job, we don't care if the earth turns into a mass of burning garbage, air unfit to breathe, oceans unable to sustain life, soil sterile.

Those companies that want to move to other countries? How is that different from what they're doing right now to avoid paying a living wage (and benefits) to Americans? I don't have a problem with Obama doing what he said he was going to do about stopping the exodus of jobs. Has he started yet? Get it done President Obama, or is that another thing that gets put on the back burner?

Let's just put everything on the back burner and let it simmer there until the American public is totally broken. The republicans and their lobbyist friends will then slither in and finish what they started, destroying this country and everything it once stood for. They will stand there with their pockets stuffed with money, fat Cuban cigars hanging out of their mouths, and they'll have nothing. There won't be anything left to have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 06/25/2009
- Lyr I'm a Fan of Lyr 35 fans permalink

or we could close all power plants, eliminate all cars and fossil fuel production and enjoy all the "green jobs' that will be created as we go back to subsistence farming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 06/26/2009
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Works for me. That should squelch any complaints about population control as well since there would be a decrease as a direct result of those measures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 06/26/2009
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