Geithner Responds To HuffPost Readers On Banks, Compensation, Credit Default Swaps

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First Posted: 06-26-09 12:01 AM   |   Updated: 06-26-09 12:51 AM

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Timothy Geithner said on Thursday that the Obama White House was attempting to create a new economic system in which large institutions did not assume that the government would automatically bail them out when times got tough. But the Treasury Secretary also argued against the abolition of credit default swaps - one of the instruments that helped bring the financial system to its knees - saying such a move would stifle creativity in a market desperate for innovation.

"Overall, we do not believe that you can build a system based on banning individual products - our core challenge is ensuring we have a system that has a proper balance between innovation on the one hand and consumer protection on the other," said Geithner.

In a unique merging of online media and oversight politics, Geithner's remarks were part of 12 answers he provided to questions posed to him by Huffington Post readers. Those questions had been relayed to the Treasury Department by Richard Neiman, a member of the Congressional Oversight Panel for the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act who had solicited input for his queries to the Treasury Secretary in a blog post in mid-April.

In a 10-page response to those questions that was provided to Neiman's office and the Huffington Post on Thursday evening, Geither addressed a whole host of pressing financial and economic topics. While his answers were mostly explanatory in nature they touched on some of the pressing concerns about the economy as expressed across ideological spectrum.

Among the many topics addressed, Geithner said that while the government had already made small returns on its investments in banks - and some of those banks had begun returning TARP money - he believed taxpayers would ultimately emerge from the bailout with a loss.

"In the end, it's unlikely that we will be able to escape from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression without some losses to taxpayers," he said. "But those losses would have been much greater had we not acted."

The Treasury Secretary also outlined a regulatory framework that would essentially buffer the system from future catastrophe without sapping creativity. Ultimately, he argued, the new economic structure would provide the conditions for robust growth without getting to the point where banks and other institutions become "too-big-too-fail."

"We want to make sure that no one assumes the government will step in to bail them out if their firm fails," he said. "We want to require all firms to keep more capital and liquid assets on hand as a greater shock absorber against potential future losses and that the biggest, most interconnected firms, keep even larger amounts on hand."

On the topic of executive compensation, Geithner said that the government was powerless to direct the practices of those institutions that did not "directly receive financial assistance under TARP." But he restated the White House's commitment to better align "the executive compensation practices of financial firms with the long-term interest of shareholders, the financial system, and the economy as a whole."

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For those economic observers still of the belief that the administration should nationalize particularly troubled banks, Geithner's answers provided as clear an indication to date that such a proposal was not on the administration's radar.

"A government takeover of one or more of our largest institutions would bring with it huge risks," he wrote. "Nationalization of one or more of these large institutions would raise questions about the status of others... There is also the problem of the exit strategy.... Nationalized institutions would likely have to shrink substantially before they could be privatized."

And on the early-criticized plan to purchase toxic assets from the banks using public-private partnerships, he insisted that the books of these troubled institutions had already begun clearing up.

As for measuring the administration's success on these topics and its economic policies more broadly, Geithner suggested what, in the current climate, might seem like a politically risky metric.

"A good starting point is looking at broad measures of economic performance, like jobs," he said. "Job losses in the month of May were at their lowest level since September 2008, and they were about one half of the average monthly job losses for the first quarter of the year. Although somewhat indirect, overall performance measures such as employment can provide important information about the health of the credit markets."

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While the answers provide a detailed reflection of how the Treasury Department views its approach to the economy, the process by which they were received is itself interesting. In an April 20 blog for the Huffington Post, Neiman asked readers to submit questions for Geithner for an oversight hearing scheduled the week ahead. Reflecting a profound interest in such subject matters from the online community, over 600 suggestions followed.

Towards the end of his portion of the Geithner hearing, Neiman asked the Treasury Secretary if he could submit some of the questions he had received in writing - a request that was granted. And on May 29, Neiman formally submitted the list to Treasury.

"The 12 categories of questions attached to this letter represent the genuine concerns and frustrations of the American people," Neiman wrote. "Each category contains one to three questions on a similar subject matter to allow for one comprehensive response. Some questions are very tough and express deep frustration and suspicion, but they reflect shared areas of concern and true inquires. All of the questions attached are verbatim or near verbatim."

In a show of how citizen engagement can be rolled into oversight of the highest levels of government, Geithner sent Neiman his responses slightly less than a month later.

"Thank you for forwarding the questions from the public that were submitted in response to your posting on the Huffington Post," his response letter read. "Please find my answers attached."

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geithner is a product of and only knows financial hokey-pokey ... gambling with and inventing money from nothing... making money from debt that somehow ends up making so much more than the original debt it is simply beyond belief ... How can we have these ideas and these people running the economy... it really is surreal.
... I want to sell the debt I owe on my house, and I will throw in my neighbors debt also, together we owe a couple hundred thousand... we both are AAA prospects so our debt ought to bring maybe a half million... then whoever buys it can then sell it to a fourth party as they also are AAA rated (or they would not have bought the debt originally- right?) so the fourth party buys it for a million..... does this make sense to anyone?? anyone????
that is exactly what has been happening on a massive scale... and people are selling and people are buying and people are getting so rich it is mind boggling... on nothing.
And Geithner and his fellow cronies defend, bail out, and continue the same practices because they "believe" ... they have "faith" in the market system...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 06/27/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 452 fans permalink
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Except who wants to buy our debt? Moody's gave us an Aaa rating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 06/27/2009
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Some of you may find this interesting. The Over-the-Counter Derivatives Markets and the Commodity Exchange Act - Report of The President’s Working Group on Financial Markets - November 1999 by Lawrence Summers and Alan Greenspan.

http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/reports/otcact.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 06/26/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 452 fans permalink
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Yes -- there it is.

The next bubble is energy -- and infrastructure to support it.

Health care also -- depending on what we ultimately end up with, of course -- to supply the Boomers.

The next bubble: Priming the markets for tomorrow's big cra_sh

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/02/0081908

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 06/26/2009
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I agree that energy WILL be the next bubble UNLESS we put regulations in place to prevent market speculation among other things. So far, this administration doesn't appear serious about reform.

In "A Short History of Financial Euphoria" (1994), John Kenneth Galbraith argues that speculative bubbles are inherent in the economic system due to "mass psychology" and the "vested interest in error that accompanies speculative euphoria." He also said that financial memory is "notoriously short". The common factor in boom and bust is the creation of debt to finance speculation, which "becomes dangerously out of scale in relation to the underlying means of payment".

If we joined the other industrial nations and had a form of Single Payer Health Insurance, possibly we could miss that bubble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 06/27/2009
- sabredance I'm a Fan of sabredance 21 fans permalink

Maybe we should start thinking about ways to profit from what we can't prevent. Ride the bubble up, then short it down... There were people who did exactly that with the mortgage/CDS/CDO meltdown, among them the mentor of Meredith Whitney. Wouldn't it be nice if 'the little people' took down MS and GS?

Fantasy I suppose...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 06/27/2009
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I am worried about my investments related to our currency. When Timothy Geithner makes statements that elimination of credit default swaps would stifle creativity, frankly, this scares me. Isn't he saying he wants to continue gambling because hey, the market should be allowed to innovate...

Time to rethink investment options.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 06/26/2009

This Boomer's plan for investment and health care is to become delicious Soylent Green. I don't see any other alternative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 06/27/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 452 fans permalink
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What the Big Banks Have Won
Regulatory Capture

by Mike Whitney

Currently, the banks are lobbying congress to preserve the "financial innovations" which are at the heart of the crisis.

On June 22, 2009, Christopher Whalen, of Institutional Risk Analysis, appeared before the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, and outlined the dangers of Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives.

He pointed out that derivatives trading is hugely profitable and generates "supra-normal returns" for banking giants JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and other large derivatives dealers. He also noted that, "the deliberate inefficiency of the OTC derivatives market results in a dedicated tax or subsidy meant to benefit one class of financial institutions, namely the largest OTC dealer banks, at the expense of other market participants."

"It is important for the Committee to understand that the reform proposal from the Obama Administration regarding OTC derivatives is a canard; an attempt by the White House and the Treasury Department to leave in place the de facto monopoly over the OTC markets by the largest dealer banks led by JPM, GS and other institutions....

The Geithner-Summers “reform” proposals are a public relations scam designed to conceal the fact that the banks will continue to maintain their stranglehold on OTC derivatives trading while circumventing government oversight. Nothing will change. Bernanke and Geithner's primary objective is to preserve the ability of the banks to use complex instruments to enhance leverage and maximize profits.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14119

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 06/26/2009

"It is important for the Committee to understand that the reform proposal from the Obama Administration regarding OTC derivatives is a canard; an attempt by the White House and the Treasury Department to leave in place the de facto monopoly over the OTC markets by the largest dealer banks led by JPM, GS and other institutions....


You are absolutely right Carolab. Most folks don't want to believe it, but these banks own, literally own, the Treasury Department. GS holds the lion's share of that stock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 06/26/2009
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That quote was from Christopher Whalen before the banking committee!

Do you think they LISTEN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 06/26/2009
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 110 fans permalink
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Please keep your "innovation", thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 06/26/2009

Sorry SCG, that "Innovation" has already been patented and widely marketed. Works really well for the financial institutions, not so much for you and me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 06/26/2009
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Yes, it works well for the party that is being paid,
not so well for the other side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 AM on 06/27/2009

Innovative creativity in the financial markets. IMO we have seen, felt, and eaten about enough of that. Is it me or does anyone else notice Geithner likes to speak in "tech terms" so that only economists can understand what the heck he is saying? Same old same old really, "if you can't impress them with brillance, baffle them with BS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 06/26/2009

He always sounds like, "blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 06/28/2009
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 38 fans permalink
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Please do not mumble and perhaps... teaching career training may help...
so we can understand what TG is trying to say...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 06/26/2009
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What a vile excuse for a human being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 06/26/2009
- Rayme I'm a Fan of Rayme 13 fans permalink

Agreed, did anyone actually read the entire article after he stated that eliminating the Credit Default Swap would stifle creativity. What a bankster shill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 06/26/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 452 fans permalink
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And can you believe his wife works for Common Cause?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 06/26/2009

OMG, that's bigamy isn't it? I mean, married to GS and a wife at the same time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 06/26/2009
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"...would stiffle creativity..."...why bother reading past the first paragraph? That is exactly what we DON'T need in the financial world, Timmy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 06/26/2009
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Does anyone else think Geithner looks like Peter MacNicols character in Ghostbusters II?

I keep expecting him to ask (in a fake eastern European accent) "why am I drippings with goo?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 06/26/2009
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"the Treasury Secretary also argued against the abolition of credit default swaps - one of the instruments that helped bring the financial system to its knees - saying such a move would stifle creativity in a market desperate for innovation. "

Talk about innovation we can do without!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 06/26/2009
- vandegrasse I'm a Fan of vandegrasse 216 fans permalink
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Here we were looking for a President to prosecute and all he does is smile. What happened to Obama. Does he have no belly for it? If not we need someone with a belly for it, to put an end to this system of government which is beyond corrupt and business which is beyond redemption!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 06/26/2009
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Obama is much too obsequious if he were more like Bush with Obama's Brain we would be in a much better situation as it stands Obama is busy paying tribute with taxpayer dollars, to his campaign supporters. BIG banking gave him a hella lot of money, and when he leaves office as a relatively young man he will secure generational wealth for his children from the same men that he empowers now.

Sadly he is another empty suit when t comes to real substantive economic reform advisers like Volker are left at the gate waiting for a seat at the table while thieves like Rob Rubin have the presidents ear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 06/26/2009
- pdsimdars I'm a Fan of pdsimdars 16 fans permalink
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I am so sick of the double speak. Such generalities! It is hard for people not in the "economist" business to get a good grasp on what Geithner is talking about. But then, when you hear the Nobel Prize winners and the College Professors and others "in the know" speak about it, you see that the Obama administration has done almost nothing to prevent another situation just like this one. The intelligent economists outside the administration talk about it in terms to try to enlighten your understanding about what they are doing, whereas, the Treasury seems to be trying to fog things over. I think this man and his "plans" will be the undoing of the Obama administration. How can an intelligent man like Obama listen to this nonsense and not to those other intelligent voices? Obama has not "taken on" the real issues, but is nibbling around the edges while trying to placate the rich and powerful. Love his speeches, but am really annoyed at his (in)action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 06/26/2009
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If there are Nobel Prize winners saying that, then there are some idiots who are Nobel Prize winners.

One clue, they loudly claimed Geithner's plans would not work, and they were wrong - dead wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 06/26/2009
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Obama's inaction IS his position. I am not expecting this to change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 06/27/2009

The financial fat cats (ie Republicans) learned an important lesson from the S&L bailout - much to the demise of the American middle class. The middle class has been tagged a cash cow for freewheeling irresponsible risk. As a middle class American, I feel very much looking toward a dark bleak future in Russia rather than bright, all-things-possible America. As It gets worse every week and it's clear to everyone that Obama's financial folks do NOT have the best interest of the cash cow as long as it's producing. All we see is them whining about restrictions on their outrageous bonuses and rip off salaries. But oh Hey! all of a sudden they don't need bail out money if that's the way it's gonna be played! Opening the government wallet to the tune of $780B was just totally irresponsible. Add salt to the wound of everyday Americans by the lack of oversight - Of course there will be ongoing meltdown - social, financial, political. Remember Rome? The Greed of these disloyal creeps has toppled the American way of life and any momentum for lifting up the poor of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 06/26/2009
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I like this. So if it works and some banks are now able to raise private capital, TARP was never needed in the first place and if it didn't work and banks couldn't pay back the loans, TARP is a give away to our corporate masters buh blah blah. That sounds fair.

There is, by the way, nothing wrong with Russia. I mean, the future can look dark and bleak if it's September and you live north of Moscow but come on. Possibility is not against the law there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/26/2009
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Some things are just criminal acts and CDO's should be among them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 06/26/2009
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Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 06/26/2009
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