Sanford's Affair Sparks Debate In GOP Over Family Values Emphasis

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First Posted: 06-26-09 04:52 PM   |   Updated: 06-26-09 05:19 PM

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Gov. Mark Sanford's admission to an extramarital affair with a woman in Argentina has sparked a debate within the backchannels of the GOP over how strongly the party should emphasize morality and religion going forward.

For decades, the GOP has used issues like respect for the sanctity of marriage and the notion of family values as a key component of its political platform and a point of divergence between Republicans and Democrats. A series of sex scandals involving high-ranking officials, however, has drastically altered that equation. And now some strategists are questioning whether the party should rethink the way it emphasizes these matters.

"It creates a very interesting tension for Republicans because they understand that there is a very interesting constituency that they have to appeal to, particularly in places like South Carolina, by resorting to that kind of moral values rhetoric," said Mike Maslansky, CEO of Luntz Maslansky, a predominantly conservative communications firm. "I don't say rhetoric as a means of demeaning it. Talking in those terms is a way to appeal to the base. In an election season they find it is a significant advantage to talk in those terms. Maybe for the other three years out of their term they wish that they hadn't."

The GOP, to be certain, will never get to a point where it willfully cedes the moral high ground to Democrats. The social and religious conservatives who comprise a large and vocal portion of the base won't permit such a drift. Nor, for that matter, does it make political sense. The failings of Sanford and others, they argue, were isolated and personal events and not reflective of the party as a whole.

"It is a personal tragedy that he talked about some length," said Frank Donatelli, chairman of GOPAC, a conservative political action committee, and former political director for President Ronald Reagan. "But I don't know that it has implications beyond that."

That said, conservatives have hit a rough patch in the last few years on the family values front, with Sen. John Ensign, Sen. David Vitter, and former Sen. Larry Craig all setting the stage for Sanford's own marital misconduct controversy. And there is a growing belief among strategists that Republicans might -- at least for the time being -- be better served to stress the economic components of their platform rather the social or moral aspects.

"Look, of course, we are the conservative party and we are going to have a conservative message," said Donatelli. "But I do think by talking a little bit more about economic opportunity that we as a party want to offer both at the national and state level, that is what we can do I think to broaden our ranks."

Craig Shirley, a long-time Republican strategist who has been vocal in his criticism of the party, added: "The problem with the Republican Party today is not having principles; the problem is the betrayal of principles. Frankly, I think the whole issue of 'family values' is overstated as a problem in the GOP. The Republican Party has a lot of problems, no doubt, but for every John Ensign or Mark Sanford are ten so-called conservatives undermining the Jeffersonian message of individual rights, individual dignity."

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Gov. Mark Sanford's admission to an extramarital affair with a woman in Argentina has sparked a debate within the backchannels of the GOP over how strongly the party should emphasize morality and reli...
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- Hillrick I'm a Fan of Hillrick 130 fans permalink
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G0P-No, seriously, we believe in the sanctity of marriage, family values and everything that is trademarked as an American value. It's just that once you are in office the babes come out of the woodwork, Man! If I was this popular in school I would have never gotten marr.. er, I mean, those people over there are trying to ruin our American way of life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 06/28/2009
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In an effort to change the tide of bad news regarding infidelity, Michael Steele and other prominent Republicans gave a press conference about strengthening traditional marriage. Newt Gingrich contributed to the press conference.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 06/28/2009
- Zen0469 I'm a Fan of Zen0469 72 fans permalink
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In general we can all agree on the desirability of positive moral behavior of our citizens and that strong positive family values can benefit us all.

There is no debate needed in Sanford's case and so long as Sanford's affair sparks his removal from office I will regard it as positive and highly beneficial.

If there is call for debate then might I recommend that the debate include why all repuglikans should not immediately resign from office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 06/28/2009
- sueno I'm a Fan of sueno 13 fans permalink

The GOP will never change
they will remain the party
of lies, deception and
power for conservative and
anti-us elites-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 06/28/2009

This is certainly a debate the GOP needs to have. If the party wants to continue to go around implying their moral superiority over their opponents, they either need to make sure that they are, or perhaps, emphasize something else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 06/28/2009
- mmgbizgirl I'm a Fan of mmgbizgirl 20 fans permalink
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Family Values? Please.

Just like the fake "Mavericks" you tried to stuff down our throats.

For the last time, no one believes your B.S.

Get a clue and a real spine and that might begin your journey back to reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 06/28/2009
- Hillrick I'm a Fan of Hillrick 130 fans permalink
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But bein' mavericky polls well in the west and our northern state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 06/28/2009
- learntofly I'm a Fan of learntofly 284 fans permalink
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The GOP has been 'sparked' to debate family values within their camp? All they can do is talk about how great they are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/28/2009

I find it amusing that Repugs apologize to each other, get exonerated for their honesty and then move forward, expecting the public to do so as well. However, when a Dem falls from grace, then they scream for impeachment or resignation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 06/28/2009
- ztck5356 I'm a Fan of ztck5356 23 fans permalink
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As long as politicians use religion as their platform, they will fail, because:

The Bible says: "All have sinned and all fall short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23,6:23)

So, if ALL have sinned, then the party that claims righteousness as their platform, will always fail.

Republicans should stop using religion as a platform and trying to set themselves up as the "Christian" party. There are Christians in both parties, and sinners in both parties.

The difference between a Republican and a Christian is, the Christians know they are sinners and they have been forgiven, the Republican party thinks they are the "righteous" ones and they don't think they need forgiveness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 06/28/2009

Let's also keep in mind the FACT that many in both parties are not Christians. And stop being so arrogant. There are many of other religious beliefs and many that share none of the religious beliefs. That is what this country is all about. We are all free to believe as we want or to not believe at all. It shouldn't matter to any political party if their members are Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim or if they worship a rock. While it might be important to the individual it should not be of any importance to the governing of this nation. It's a lightening rod used by the Republicans to pander to a small minority of individuals and to divide the nation. It's a straw man that is coming back to haunt them.. This nonsense that we are a Christian nation is simply not true. Are Christian religions, all Christian beliefs that largest component of religious belief in the nation? Perhaps.. But I'm speaking of all the various denominations, not just the very far right version. There is a reason for separation of church and state and every time the far right thumps the Bible and inflects their hateful attitude toward the rest of us it is proven.. My religious beliefs are mine alone. It isn't important to any politician. We have to get by this nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 06/28/2009
- ztck5356 I'm a Fan of ztck5356 23 fans permalink
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I agree, but we do have a party, the Republican party, that claims they are the "Christian, Family Values Party, Religious Right, blah, blah, blah party." As long as they embrace that theory, and drag religion into our politics, and make it a choice for Christians, and make them feel guilty for voting Democrat, then they will fail because of the Sanfords, Edwards, Spritzers, etc., in the political arena. I cannot understand, with America's history of separation of church and state, (the reason for the Mayflower for God's sake!) that we are having this discussion today!

It makes me angry that we can't get it right! Let us all have our religions, and let us vote the way we please for the sake of government for ALL and keep the government out of our religions!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 06/28/2009
- Honestly22 I'm a Fan of Honestly22 2 fans permalink

Sanford uses his religion to judge others moral character harshly, to the extent of calling for impeachment of Clinton and resignation of others for adultery, while he is able to redeem himself thru forgiveness for the same transgression using the same religion.

What a scam! Now he is "holier than thou" once again, thru his request for forgiveness and then compares himself to King David in the bible.

What kind of religion makes 1 man self righteous (redeemable) and another reprehensible (Stanfords reference of Clinton on his adultery) for the same transgression? Is this some kind of selective religeous forgiveness? Like only GOPers need apply? An impeachable offense for Clinton, according to Stanford, but for Stanford, like the biblical King David, a forgivable transgression that requires the continuation of his power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 06/28/2009
- Halter I'm a Fan of Halter 9 fans permalink
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To be saved you must have sinned and been forgiven, No problem with doing that repeatedly. Just chalks up more of them warm fuzzy forgiveness points St. Peter is keepng the books on. Sinnin is an intrinsic part of the conservative christian game plan. The path to salvation is paved with repeat offenses. Kind of an abusive relationship between sinner and church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 06/28/2009

WHICH marriage are you defending?"

Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children. Married Nancy Davis who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.
Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.
Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer.
Dick Armey - Former House Majority Leader - divorced
Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced
Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced
Former Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced
George Will - divorced
Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced
Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.
Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia - Barr has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the "Defense of Marriage Act."
Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York - divorced
Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor)
Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced
Henry Kissinger - divorced
Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced
Sen. John McCain of Arizona - divorced
Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced
Rep. Susan Molinari of New York (2000 Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker) - divorced

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 06/28/2009
- TwoLabHome I'm a Fan of TwoLabHome 7 fans permalink

Don't forget Henry Hyde! This outspoken Clinton impreachment cheerleader called his own 4-year extramarital affair with a married woman while he was married to his wife a mere "youthful indescretion."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 06/28/2009

Swell . . . it seems the Real "DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT" ought to just outlaw DIVORCE.

That ought to help the Republicans . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 06/28/2009
- emrogers I'm a Fan of emrogers 69 fans permalink
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Please - how 'bout Rudy! He lived in the Governors Mansion with a woman, not his wife, before he was divorced. Also his first marriage was to his cousin. Can't make this poop up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 06/29/2009
- Indie2008 I'm a Fan of Indie2008 45 fans permalink

The right wing GOP has so successfully indoctrinated the "Us vs. Them" philosophy into their base, that the hypocrisy would take years to erode it's effect. They will always believe that even an imperfect "family values" candidate is preferrable to the alternative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 06/28/2009
- Athena123 I'm a Fan of Athena123 6 fans permalink

Repubs don't seem to understand what family values mean. As long as it is a man and a woman married, everything else is ok. Family values REALLY means healthy relationships; where parents (whether of 2 genders or the same gender) love and respect each other; where there is a relationship with the children, lots of laughter and family bonding, no hitting of children, no abuse, etc. This is what produces a strong and productive new generation. The emphasis on gay marriage and abortion are terrible red herrings that diminish the importance of family in north america. We need to abandon the idea of sex as immoral, and encourage healthy sexual relationships among consenting adults. Maybe then people will be satisfied in their relationships and healthy families can result. Obama and his family is a great example of wonderful family values. Many christian homes are not examples of this, as many of them promote sexual guilt, corporal punishment for children, and religious fears (ie hell, rapture, original sin, etc.). I find it ironic that republican christian families often seem to be the least healthy families around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 AM on 06/28/2009
- SSF I'm a Fan of SSF 34 fans permalink
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Even Republicans can't seem to live up to Republican standards anymore!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 06/28/2009
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 376 fans permalink
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The GOP brand isn't selling anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 06/28/2009
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