White House Drafts Executive Order To Allow Indefinite Detention Of Terror Suspects

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First Posted: 06-26-09 05:32 PM   |   Updated: 06-26-09 06:17 PM

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The Obama administration, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close Guantanamo, has drafted an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely, according to three senior government officials with knowledge of White House deliberations.

Such an order would embrace claims by former president George W. Bush that certain people can be detained without trial for long periods under the laws of war. Obama advisers are concerned that bypassing Congress could place the president on weaker footing before the courts and anger key supporters, the officials said.

After months of internal debate over how to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, White House officials are growing increasingly worried that reaching quick agreement with Congress on a new detention system may prove impossible. Several officials said there is concern in the White House that the administration may not be able to close the facility by the president's January deadline.

White House spokesman Ben LaBolt did not directly respond to questions about an executive order but said the administration would address the cases of Guantanamo detainees in a manner "consistent with the national security interests of the United States and the interests of justice."

One administration official suggested the White House was already trying to build support for an executive order.

"Civil liberties groups have encouraged the administration, that if a prolonged detention system were to be sought, to do it through executive order," the official said. Such an order could be rescinded and would not block later efforts to write legislation, but civil liberties groups generally oppose long-term detention, arguing that detainees should either be prosecuted or released.

The Justice Department has declined to comment on the prospects for a long-term detention system while internal reviews of Guantanamo detainees are underway. The reviews are expected to be completed by July 21.

In a May speech, President Obama broached the need for a system of long-term detention and suggested that it would include congressional and judicial oversight. "We must recognize that these detention policies cannot be unbounded. They can't be based simply on what I or the executive branch decide alone," the president said.

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Some of Obama's top legal advisers, along with a handful of influential Republican and Democratic lawmakers, have pushed for the creation of a "national security court" to supervise the incarceration of detainees deemed too dangerous to release but who cannot be charged or tried.

But the three senior government officials said the White House has turned away from that option, at least for now, because legislation establishing a special court would be both difficult to pass and likely to fracture Obama's own party. These officials, as well as others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about internal deliberations.

On the day Obama took office, 242 men were imprisoned at Guantanamo. In his May speech, the president outlined five strategies the administration would use to deal with them: criminal trials, revamped military tribunals, transfers to other countries, releases and continued detention.

Since the inauguration, 11 detainees have been released or transferred, one prisoner committed suicide and one was moved to New York to face terrorism charges in federal court.

Administration officials said the cases of about half of the remaining 229 detainees have been reviewed for prosecution or release. Two officials involved in a Justice Department review of possible prosecutions said the administration is strongly considering criminal charges in federal court for Khalid Sheik Mohammed and three other detainees accused of involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The other half, the officials said, present the greatest difficulty because these detainees cannot be prosecuted either in federal court or military commissions. In many cases the evidence against them is classified, has been provided by foreign intelligence services, or has been tainted by the Bush administration's use of harsh interrogation techniques.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. agreed with an assessment offered during congressional testimony this month that fewer than 25 percent of the detainees would be charged in criminal courts and that 50 others have been approved for transfer or release. One official said the administration is still hoping that as many as 70 Yemeni citizens will be moved, in stages, into a rehabilitation program in Saudi Arabia.

Three months into the Justice Department's reviews, several officials involved said they have found themselves agreeing with conclusions reached years earlier by the Bush administration: As many as 90 detainees cannot be charged or released.

The White House has spent months meeting with key congressional leaders in the hopes of reaching agreement on long-term detention, even as public support for such a plan has wavered as lawmakers have sought to prevent detainees from being transferred to their constituencies.

Lawyers for the administration are now in negotiations with Sens. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) over separate legislation that would revamp military commissions. A senior Republican staff member said that senators have yet to see "a comprehensive, detailed policy" on long-term detention from the administration.

"They can do it without congressional backing, but I think there would be very strong concerns," the staff member said, adding that "Congress could cut off funding" for any detention system established in the United States.

Concerns are growing among Obama's advisers that Congress may try to assert too much control over the process. This week Obama signed an appropriations bill that forces the administration to report to Congress before moving any detainee out of Guantanamo and prevents the White House from using available funds to move detainees onto U.S. soil.

"Legislation could kill Obama's plans," said one government official involved. The official said an executive order could be the best option for the president at this juncture. Under one White House draft that was being discussed earlier this month, according to administration officials, detainees would be imprisoned at a military facility on U.S. soil but their ongoing detention would be subject to annual presidential review. U.S. citizens would not be held in the system.

Such detainees -- those at Guantanamo and those who may be captured in the future -- would also have the right to legal representation during confinement and access to some of the information that is being used to keep them behind bars. Anyone detained under this order would have a right to challenge his detention before a judge.

Officials argue that the plan would give detainees more rights and allow them a better chance to one day end their indefinite incarceration than they have now at Guantanamo.

But some senior Democrats see longterm detention as tantamount to reestablishing the Guantanamo system on U.S. soil. "I think this could be a very big mistake, because of how such a system could be perceived throughout the world," Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) told Holder.

One administration official said future transfers to the United States for long-term detention would be rare. Al-Qaeda operatives captured on the battlefield, which the official defined as Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and possibly the Horn of Africa, would be held in battlefield facilities. Suspects captured elsewhere in the world could be transferred to the United States for federal prosecution, turned over to local authorities or returned to their home countries.

"Going forward, unless it's an extraordinary case, you will not see new transfers to the U.S. for indefinite detention," the official said.

Instituting long-term detention through an executive order would leave Obama vulnerable to charges that he is willing to forsake the legislative branch of government, as his predecessor often did. Bush's detention policies suffered successive defeats in the courts in part because they lacked congressional approval and tried to exclude judicial oversight.

"There is no statute prohibiting the president from doing this through executive order, and so far courts have not ruled in ways that would bar him from doing so," said Matthew Waxman, who worked on detainee issues at the Defense Department during Bush's first term. But Waxman, who waged a battle inside the Bush administration for more congressional cooperation, said the "courts are more likely to defer to the president and legislative branch when they speak with one voice on these issues."

Walid bin Attash, who is accused of involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000 and who was held at a secret CIA prison, could be among those subject to long-term detention, according to one senior official.

Little information on bin Attash's case has been made public, but officials who have reviewed his file said the Justice Department has concluded that none of the three witnesses against him can be brought to testify in court. One witness, who was jailed in Yemen, escaped several years ago. A second witness remains incarcerated, but the government of Yemen will not allow him to testify.

Administration officials believe that testimony from the only witness in U.S. custody, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, may be inadmissible because he was subjected to harsh interrogation while in CIA custody.

"These issues haven't morphed simply because the administration changed," said Juan Zarate, who served as Bush's deputy national security adviser for counterterrorism and is now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

"The challenge for the new administration is how to solve these legal questions of preventive detention in a way that is consistent with the Constitution, legitimate in the eyes of the world and doesn't create security loopholes that cause Congress to worry," Zarate said.

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The Obama administration, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close Guantanamo, has drafted an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism ...
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Turning up the tyranny temperature slowly under the cover of MJ's death, healthcare reform, global warming bills and immigration reform. The state run media is wagging a nice dog this week. Obausha puts the "slick" back into willie and has shifted gears from the evil bush administration from 2nd to 4th but remains on the same course of his predecessor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 06/27/2009
- DrPneumann I'm a Fan of DrPneumann 7 fans permalink

Like many other governments in history that have created "secret detention centers that torture", will the US eventually turn this system of "justice" on their own citizens?

This is an outrage. If people don't say anything now they may not be allowed to in the future. It could become an indefinite penalty to do so...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 06/27/2009

Wow, these posts are really depressing. The hope and change isn't what is was all cracked up to be, huh? On another subject, when will our elected officials start reading the bills BEFORE they vote? Is that too much to ask?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 06/27/2009
- glockman I'm a Fan of glockman 47 fans permalink
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I've asked that question on here before, and the response I received nearly stunned me. Congressional staffers, you know, the ones who are snot nosed recent college graduates, read the bills and give the cliff notes version to their bosses. The person answering my questioning thought this completely OK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 06/27/2009

Here's the scary part. What's their definition of "terrorist"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 06/27/2009
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Nice Friday afternoon news story, buried in the Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett (who was she?) intrigues.

Obama had better start adhering to his campaign promises or face the fact that he is rapidly becoming a one term President in the space of 5 short months.

FISA was the first warning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/27/2009
- DrPneumann I'm a Fan of DrPneumann 7 fans permalink

"Instituting long-term detention through an executive order would leave Obama vulnerable to charges that he is willing to forsake the legislative branch of government, as his predecessor often did. Bush's detention policies suffered successive defeats in the courts in part because they lacked congressional approval and tried to exclude judicial oversight."

THIS is why this administration is referred to as "Bush Lite"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 06/27/2009
- MegWe I'm a Fan of MegWe 33 fans permalink

To all commenters to this post: what would YOU propose we do with the few people left that really are "bad actors" whose cases were tainted by t.o.r.t.u.r.e? Really.....what is your solution? Let them go? I have yet to hear anyone on the left adresss this in a way that makes sense.
Do you really think that Obama WANTS to promote indefinite detention? What are his options?

Personally I am so sick of the "knee jerk" reactions to these things. Cleaning up Bush's mess is an incredibly hard job. You can on and on about the law, but in practical terms you offer no real solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 06/27/2009
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Well, I'm not in charge but here goes.

First, we need to know how many of the detainees' cases have been tainted by harsh interrogation - torture - so we can begin aggressive war crimes trials for the people responsible for this. Leave no stone unturned and prosecute everyone involved.

Try all the other detainees in either a military court or whatever is appropriate for prisoners of war. We've done this before, in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Release the acquitted ones to their countries of origins, whether they want them or not. They aren't our citizens.

We are a country of laws and we must live with the consequences of that just as we enjoy freedoms because of those laws. If we ignore our laws and our moral convictions, then our country is already lost in this "war".

Those of you that are afraid of what a released terror "suspect" may do in retaliation for being unjustly held for six or seven years, then I suggest you move to Iran or North Korea and see what their system of law looks like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 06/27/2009
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

"We either believe in the dignity of the individual, the rule of law, and the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, or we don't. There is no middle ground."

- Leon Panetta, Obama's CIA Director

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 06/27/2009
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A quote we need to remind them of. Constantly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 06/27/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 403 fans permalink
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I guess his FISA vote last summer was more telling than some thought at the time.

Folks need to learn to read the signals better. Wasn't O also the first one (out of he and Hill) to support legislation about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard? Details.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 06/27/2009
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

It was telling at the time. Very telling.

Unfortunately. the alternative was worse.
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One of the biggest myths in recent political history is that Obama won the election. Au contraire - the Republicans lost the election. There is a difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 06/27/2009
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I was GREATLY concerned by his FISA vote; and I always thought of him as a corporatist. In the midst of supporting his campaign, I warned my friends that even though he was in my view a far better choice than McCain - certainly after McCain saddled himself with the Alaskan Talibunny - my concerns about Obama's politics have always come from the "lesser of two evils" argument that I find myself in every election cycle. Would we be having this discussion if Dennis Kucinich were now in the White House?
I question if this policy is only for those we've already incarcerated, or is it an ongoing process that will affect those people taken into custody today or tomorrow? There seems to be two simultaneous stories being told here - Guantanamo and something else, much more awful to come out of what I perceived to be a a more progressive White House.

Bush-Lite, indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 06/27/2009
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

If you really think the people that run the system would let Dennis anywhere near the WH, you need remedial review.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 06/27/2009
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Remember that the alternative was McCain. 'Nuff said?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 06/27/2009

You think somebody who had been a prisoner of war for so long would do this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 06/27/2009
- jt austin I'm a Fan of jt austin 3 fans permalink

This is wrong. In this country, people are innocent until PROVEN guilty. People are not rounded up and jailed without charges IN AMERICA. No one has the right to take such a fundamental principle of what American stands for and disregard it.

The president should not have the right to turn our country into a country that imprisons people without due process or imprisons people for crimes someone thinks they might commit.

I will forever HATE Bush for taking away the pride I had in my country. For making my country a country that tortured people and imprisoned people without trial.

When Obama was elected, I breathed a sigh of relief thinking that my pride in my country's goodness would be restored. I can't describe to you the aching sadness I feel inside to realize that he has the same disregard for something that I feel is one of the most important things about being an American. All people have the right to due process.

I think any policy that removes ANYONE's right to due process should be put to a national vote. This is not a small thing, this changes one of the fundamental principles of this country. It strikes at the heart of what it means to be an American. And as Americans, I think we all should have a say in a change that completely redefines what our country stands for.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 06/27/2009
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

They don't care there.

Nobody does - after they get there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 06/27/2009
- YewNeekId I'm a Fan of YewNeekId 26 fans permalink

I'm as disappointed as you are. My wife and I worked on his campaign all summer and half the fall and donated quite a bit. I was fooled into thinking that he was an honest man.

Obama seems to only care about two things:
...1) Obama
...2) see #1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/27/2009
- dwmulenex I'm a Fan of dwmulenex 5 fans permalink

when you are in the swamp up to your waist in alligators, you might try getting out instead of challenging the teethy ones by wading neck deep into the water. Obama Agonistes may be the right name for the current phase of his presidency, as he struggles to do the right thing without becoming the right wing. No executive orders designed to keep those in jail we can't prosecute because we tortured them are moral or ethical or legal. Two wrongs will not make a right, but they will bend justice into a pretzel of injustice. This we all should have learned from the twisted minds of Bush and Cheney.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 06/27/2009
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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It's beginning to look like we've got George Obama in the White House!

No right thinking person can support indefinite internment without trial, that's the Al Qaeda way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 06/27/2009
- kevinabt I'm a Fan of kevinabt 19 fans permalink

Its more of a soviet way really. Or national socialist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 06/27/2009

Maybe the press will vet him now instead of doing 24/7 adoration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 06/27/2009
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What's worse is that the right wing no longer says that "he's the most liberal" president ever elected.

Mr. Obama: Get us out of war. Stop human rights abuses. Fix health care without letting big insurance run the show. Get a decent energy policy that won't melt the planet. Make America the "good guys" again.

You know, like you said you would?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 06/27/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 403 fans permalink
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Professor Duh, you seem to have pended - please read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/27/us/politics/27detain.html

And watch this:

http://www.linktv.org/programs/blueprint-for-accountability-working-the-dark-side

Then get back to all of us that are outraged by the mere suggestion made in this article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 06/27/2009
- lentinelia I'm a Fan of lentinelia 66 fans permalink
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Obama is going down the drain so fast it is astonishing.

I remember that during the campaign and he would utter all these right-wing talking points, his supporters would counter with something like, "he's got to say that to get elected. Once he's in...."

It ain't turning out that way.

Now these same people answer by saying, "Wait. He's only been in office six months."

Well, we have no choice but to wait.
The republicans are through for the moment.
And the democrats are turning so far to the right it is pathetic.

And they talk about Iran's electoral process being corrupt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 06/27/2009

You see that's what happens when you don't really vet a candidate and have a lapdog press. Remember that next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 AM on 06/27/2009
- PaHairO I'm a Fan of PaHairO 7 fans permalink

Your point is at least 9 years old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 06/27/2009
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