How The Climate Bill May Spur An Energy Revolution

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H. JOSEF HEBERT | 06/27/09 07:41 PM | AP

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FILE - The Jan. 10, 2009 file photo shows a flock of geese flying past a smokestack at the Jeffery Energy Center coal power plant near Emmitt, Kan.. Sweeping legislation to curb the pollution linked to global warming and create a new energy-efficient economy is headed to an uncertain future in the Senate after squeaking through the House. The vote was a big win for President Barack Obama, who hailed House passage as a "historic action." "It's a bold and necessary step that holds the promise of creating new industries and millions of new jobs, decreasing our dangerous dependence on foreign oil and strictly limiting the release of pollutants that threaten the health of families and communities and the planet itself," Obama said in a statement on Friday, June 26, 2009. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel, File)

WASHINGTON — Congress has taken its first step toward an energy revolution, with the prospect of profound change for every household, business, industry and farm in the decades ahead.

It was late Friday when the House passed legislation that would, for the first time, require limits on pollution blamed for global warming _ mainly carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels. Now the Senate has the chance to change the way Americans produce and use energy.

What would the country look like a decade from now if the House-passed bill _ or, more likely, a water-down version _ were to become the law of the land?

"It will open the door to a clean energy economy and a better future for America," President Barack Obama said Saturday.

But what does that mean to the average person?

Energy touches every corner of the economy and in countless ways can alter people's lives.

Such a law would impact how much people pay to heat, cool and light their homes (it would cost more); what automobiles they buy and drive (smaller, fuel efficient and hybrid electric); and where they will work (more "green" jobs, meaning more environmentally friendly ones).

Critics of the House bill brand it a "jobs killer." Yet it would seem more likely to shift jobs. Old, energy-intensive industries and businesses might scale back or disappear. Those green jobs would emerge, propelled by the push for nonpolluting energy sources.

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That could mean making or installing solar panels, repairing wind turbines, producing energy-efficient light bulbs, working for an environmental engineering firm or waste recycler, making equipment that harnesses carbon from coal burning and churning out energy-saving washing machines or air conditioners.

Assembly line workers at factories that made gas-guzzling cars might see their future in producing the next generation of batteries or wind turbine blades _ an emerging shift, though on a relatively small scale today. On Wall Street, commodity brokers would trade carbon pollution credits alongside oil futures.

Farmers would see the cost of fertilizer and electricity go up. More windmills would dot their pastures. And a new source of income could come from selling pollution credits by planting trees or changing farming methods to absorb more carbon dioxide.

Energy would cost more because it would become more expensive to produce. For the first time there would be a price on the greenhouse gas pollution created when coal, natural gas or oil are burned. Energy companies would have to pay for technologies that can capture the carbon emissions, purchase pollution allowances or shift to cleaner energy sources.

It all costs.

Investors would see a new line item on companies financial reports: the cost of carbon permits.

Some increases would be reflected in the prices of goods and services, economics say. It might mean shelling out more for a toy because plastic, a petroleum based product, is more expensive, or paying more for a house because of new efficiency requirements.

Not all the higher energy cost would show up in people's utility bills. Households, as well as business and factories _ including those, for example, making plastic for toys _ could use less energy, or at least use it more efficiently. The poorest of homes could get a government check as a rebate for high energy costs. That money would come from selling pollution allowances for industry.

Energy experts in government and industry say a price on carbon pollution would lead to new ways to make renewable energy less expensive, while emphasizing how people can use it more wisely.

Potential changes to how homes are built and even financed seem likely as energy efficiency is taken into account in building codes and the cost of mortgages. With the cost of energy increasing, homeowners and businesses would have greater incentive to use more energy efficient lighting, windows and insulation.

But don't think that the traditional sources of energy would disappear.

Coal, which today accounts for half the electricity produced, would continue as a major energy source, though a less polluting one, energy experts forecast. That would mean capturing the carbon released when coal is burned.

It's a technological hurdle with a complication: "not in my back yard" complaints over what to do with the billions of tons of carbon dioxide captured from power plants and pumped beneath the earth. Would people feel comfortable having it stored near or under their homes, factories and businesses?

Scientists studying climate change say carbon capture from power plants is essential if the country is to take up the challenge against global warming.

The cleaner energy economy also put nuclear energy front and center. Does the U.S. build new power plants? If so, where, and where does all the waste go? Nuclear energy makes up about one-fifth of the nation's electricity today.

The House-passed bill contains provisions to make it easier to get loan guarantees and expands the nuclear industry's access to loans for reactor construction. An Environmental Protection Agency analysis that shows modest future costs from a low-climate energy world assumes a significant expansion of nuclear energy. The Senate could add more incentives for the nuclear industry.

The new energy world would rely more on natural gas. This abundant fossil fuel emits carbon but is relatively clean when compared with coal. But people would have to decide whether to accept new pipelines that are needed to ship the gas around the country _ just as they would have to deal with the need for new power lines to move solar and wind energy to where it's needed.

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ H. Josef Hebert has covered energy and environmental issues for The Associated Press since 1990.

WASHINGTON — Congress has taken its first step toward an energy revolution, with the prospect of profound change for every household, business, industry and farm in the decades ahead. It was la...
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- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 50 fans permalink

The Catlin Arctic Ice Survey:
is giving up on its journey to the North Pole to measure arctic ice thickness. Championed by Prince Charles and funded by an insurance company that wants to sell insurance against climate change, the Catlin team travelled 434 km in 73 days, with 490 km remaining to the pole. Unfortunately, severe cold (to minus 40 Celsius) took out "both a radar device meant to measure the ice thickness and a satellite communications unit to relay the data.". Meanwhile, an airplane equipped with modern technology flew over them and discovered arctic ice was "thicker" than expected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/01/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 50 fans permalink

There has been no warming since 1998, temperatures are falling everywhere and the solar cycles say we are heading into another ice age. Why do these people keep beating this dead horse? Money and power. It’s a perfect way to control the citizens and people like Al Gore, who has at least two carbon credit selling businesses, can continue to commit fraud for profit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 06/30/2009

What is the motivation behind passing the bill? Does all this lobbying reflect Al Gore’s deepest love for our ecosystems and wildlife….or is it his love for deep pockets?

http://theartdeptchronicles.blogspot.com/2009/06/waxman-markey-cap-and-trade-bill-hr.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 06/30/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 50 fans permalink

The collapse of the "consensus" has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth's temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.

The global warming hoax is on life support, being kept alive only by a rigorous if ridiculous campaign to suppress reality. For example, a top expert on polar bears was banned from speaking for not being willing to pretend that the man-eating beasts are endangered by our lawnmowers:

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 06/30/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 235 fans permalink

This is not a climate bill!

It's the banksters dream Carbon Credit Derivatives Market creation.

Read the bill!, it's 80% banker talk. Credit default swaps included!

Nothing for the most viable energy: rooftop solar at 3 cents per kWH (see my profile)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 06/30/2009
- DaveVDave I'm a Fan of DaveVDave 2 fans permalink
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Great!! An enegy revolution is exactly what we need. Anyone who does not believe that pumping billions of tons of carbon dioxide yearly is going to have a bad effect is living in a fantasy world.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 06/30/2009
- Chad53916 I'm a Fan of Chad53916 10 fans permalink

Let's move on. There will always be victims losing jobs; horseshoers, telegraph operators and vacuum tube assemblers come to mind. This is inevitable, I'd rather us cross the finish line at the front half of the pack. Let's go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 06/30/2009
- angrydove I'm a Fan of angrydove 4 fans permalink
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Listen all you grim, end-of-the-world, Nay Sayers, we need to get on this GREEN bandwagon. In fact we need to be DRIVING it! That's where the future is heading, and it's going to be great!

The cost of green technology cannot be extrapolated into the future from what it is now. When computers were first invented they were entirely unaffordable, now you can get a laptop for @ $300. When cell phones were first invented only rich people could afford them, now it is not uncommon to see kids carrying them around. Cars, televisions, telephones, fax machines, ect.... all become way more affordable over time. AND when we invent great new technology, not only is there a domestic market for it, we also can sell it internationally.

This Green revolution will be extremely stimulative to our economy, and it just can't happen soon enough. With green technologies, instead of having to scrimp and save oil and coal that is running out, we will be able to help ourselves and others to access the unlimited amounts of energy from the sun wind and other energy sources still being studied like ALGAE and hydrogen etc..

Why be so miserable? It really is happening and it's going to be great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 06/30/2009

You're absolutely right to say it's goiing to be great; although probably for the wrong reasons, but it's certainly great for me for two reasons. First, it's what the American people voted for and so it's what they want and I'm all for them getting what they want because frankly, I believe they so richly deserve it. Second, I won't be here to suffer the pain!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 06/30/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 48 fans permalink

10 years from now your electric costs will have gone up by at least 100%. Everything you buy will cost more. Businesses will still be struggling with the increased costs and competition from China, Mexico, and other countries not burdened with this type of legislation. Plus, there will be no measurable improvements in climate change, green house gasses, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 06/30/2009
- JXJASON I'm a Fan of JXJASON 9 fans permalink

I have decided that we will do better if we conserve energy more. When we cannot afford to pay for electricity, then we will do without it.

Start buying candles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 06/30/2009

We won't be able to afford candle because of the carbon emissions candles give off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 06/30/2009
- JXJASON I'm a Fan of JXJASON 9 fans permalink

Trading oil futures is partly responsible for the price of oil going over $140.00 per barrel. Does it bother you that speculators and OPEC steal your money???

Trading carbon futures will be unproductive. The con job with the "Carbon Tax Bill " has begun.

If alternative energy will produce lower prices for oil and electricity, I am all for it. If not then I am happy using coal.

Might do it is not good enough for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 06/30/2009

Why is this article punctuated with ads for "clean coal"?? I'm disappointed that HuffPost is putting those ads up on the "Green" page. Seems more like a Fox News-type move to me.

Guess money is money...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 AM on 06/30/2009
- AdV2k1 I'm a Fan of AdV2k1 5 fans permalink
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it's a green revolution. The small cost to people for a healthier life is worth it.

Investing in your future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 06/29/2009

Nice talking point. If you have something worthwhile to contribute, please do so. Otherwise, feel free to get bent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 06/30/2009

"Small" cost? Yeah, right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 AM on 06/30/2009
- angrydove I'm a Fan of angrydove 4 fans permalink
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I'm with you AdV2k1!

LET'S GO GREEN!!

We've waited far too long already, and it will make our country and our world so much better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 06/30/2009
- RomeoMD25 I'm a Fan of RomeoMD25 50 fans permalink

Climate Change: Hoax of the Century
Carbon dioxide, a benign, life giving molecule has been miscast by a world wide political movement to be an environmental hazard in what will soon be discovered to be the hoax of the century. This molecule, CO2 is vital to all life on earth. It is exhaled by all living things and even comes from nocturnal emissions by plants. It forms the bubbles in your soda, wine and beer. Standard air has 370 parts per million (PPM) of carbon dioxide of which 93% comes from "natural sources" which are all beyond human control. These sources include decomposition of organic matter, exhaling by living things and volcanic vents, which is by far the greatest atmospheric source.

When the full scope of the scientific errors involved in this hoax are exposed everyone will realize this has been the greatest folly since the flat earth theory. We deserve a real debate. In this case, the truth will be very inconvenient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 06/30/2009
- smpj I'm a Fan of smpj 12 fans permalink

If somehow passed and signed, Cap & Trade will certainly be reversed once the prices of energy and manufactured products begin to spiral up significantly in tandum with the corresponding job losses. The promises of low cost to consumers cannot be kept. Fearful of an electoral nightmare, the Dems will eventually reverse themselves and end this huge money grab, but the damage will have been done. It will be the beginning of the end of Democratic domination. A slower pace would be smarter, but they're determined to ruin their ascendency. Few here will believe this can happen but if this turkey becomes law, you'll see it all evolve before your very eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 06/29/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 185 fans permalink
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"Cap and Trade"... aka a huge payday for Goldman Sachs and other Wall Streeters.

A far BETTER plan would simply tax companies who pollute. The more they pollute, the more they get taxed... and make it high enough to be significant (unlike the limp "penalties" for breaking the law).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 06/29/2009
- smpj I'm a Fan of smpj 12 fans permalink

Sure, lets tax them plenty and hope this increases their costs enough to make them fully uncompetitive. Their going out of business will stop the pollution right in its tracks! Maybe forever. By acting forcefully we can save the Earth at the loss of just a few thousand jobs per bankruptcy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 06/29/2009
- BeefyT I'm a Fan of BeefyT 3 fans permalink

CO2 is a pollutant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 06/29/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 185 fans permalink
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If they can't limit their expenses and stay within the confines of the law, they deserve to go out of business.

If your business model depends on throwing literally tons of pollution into the atmosphere every day, or ruining our lands and water systems, that business has no right existing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 06/30/2009

Yep, pretty much. All of these so-called "progressives" supporting this blatant swindle have NO PROGRESSIVE CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER. If indeed human activity is deleteriously changing the climate - and any competent scientist would still be highly skeptical of that conjecture - then a carbon tax is the ONLY sane policy option. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to create a superfluous, wholly imaginary, speculative market for carbon indulgences. NONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 06/30/2009
- IndyMarine I'm a Fan of IndyMarine 2 fans permalink
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I'm sure they wouldn't simply pass on the hit to consumers...They would do the patriotic and empathetic thing and just accept a smaller profit margin. For the sake of Hope and Change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 06/30/2009
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