Climate Bill Winners & Losers

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CHRIS KAHN | 06/27/09 07:04 PM | AP

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NEW YORK — In addition to raising energy prices, the climate legislation that's winding through Congress would create a parallel financial system with a carbon-based currency.

The House on Friday narrowly passed landmark legislation meant to curb greenhouse gas emissions and create an energy-efficient economy, voting 219-212. President Barack Obama on Saturday urged senators to follow suit.

Everyone from small farmers to nuclear energy companies would be forced to re-evaluate their place in the new order. Power plants, factories and refineries would feel the first impact if the federal government moves ahead with plans to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020 and by about 80 percent near the end of the century.

The sharply debated bill's fate is unclear in the Senate. A major struggle is expected with 60 votes needed to overcome a certain Republican filibuster.

How much it will affect other industries is still a matter of intense debate, though the primary winners and losers are already emerging.

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The Winners:

Solar, wind, geothermal and other renewable energy companies, including nuclear, are some of the obvious winners in a carbon economy.

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In addition to the billions of federal stimulus dollars they expect to receive, those industries can expect to see a huge boost in investment as utilities and power companies are forced to cut their carbon emissions. Companies like Florida Power & Light Co., Arizona Public Service, Southern California Edison and others are already investing in solar farms and other renewable energy projects, and they'll likely spend even more to increase the mix of carbon-neutral energy sources.

Farmers also will find new ways to make money in a carbon economy. Carbon consultants like the International Carbon Bank & Exchange in Florida see huge potential in agriculture for managing carbon emissions. Farmers that till their soil differently or apply new environmental techniques can get money by cooperating with a polluter as a carbon "offset."

Owners of large tracts of forest land also will get a lot of interest from the business community. Like farmers, environmental experts see them as a huge player in the carbon economy because of their natural ability to absorb carbon.

Louis Blumberg, director of climate change for the Nature Conservancy's California chapter, envisions a system in which forest owners could make money simply by signing an agreement to cut down fewer trees for lumber.

The Nature Conservancy did just that last year with the Conservation Fund, a nonprofit agency that owns about 24,000 acres of redwood and douglas fir forest northwest of San Francisco. The groups changed the logging schedule on the property, and the fund expects to receive about $2 million from Pacific Gas and Electric, which participates in a regional climate initiative similar to the one that the Waxman-Markey bill would create around the country.

"This is really a model of what can happen," Blumberg said. "Property owners everywhere want to figure out a way to be part of this."

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The Losers:

Anyone who pays an electric bill would likely feel the impact of climate legislation. Utilities will try to raise rates as they invest in cleaner-yet-more-expensive energy sources. Some have already announced plans to do so. Petroleum companies also may try to import more of their refined gas and heating oil from countries with no carbon law, which will raise costs.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office and the Environmental Protection Agency both issued estimates of how the climate bill would affect energy costs.

The CBO estimated the cost at $175 a year for the average household. The EPA forecasts $80 to $110 a year.

The American Petroleum Institute disputed both estimates, saying the bill could cost the average household up to $3,300 by 2020.

"That is more than a few postage stamps," API President Jack Gerard said in a slap at Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass. Markey has compared new energy costs to a postage stamp per day.

API has tried to paint the bill as a job killer that would choke off efforts to pull the economy out of recession.

"While we support creating new jobs, the legislation offers an unnecessary and false choice of eliminating good jobs in the oil and natural gas industry to create green jobs," Gerard said.

Oil and gas companies have spent record amounts of money lobbying Congress recently as they try to blunt the impact of the bill.

Refiners, in particular, say the inherent costs in the legislation could shift some fuel production outside the U.S., where refiners would not be bound by its provisions.

The National Petrochemical & Refiners Association also says the legislation hurts them two different ways, by capping emissions from refineries as well as emissions from the fuels they produce. But refiners say they are not recieving enough credits.

The association says the legislation could cost U.S. refiners as much as $58 billion a year.

Coal miners also are worried because it might cut into demand for coal, which is loaded with carbon. Mining also uses a lot of energy, so the rise in energy costs would hurt their bottom line.

The country gets about half of its electricity from coal. Some utilities that rely on coal to generate much of their electricity worried about initial versions of the legislation that they said would lead to skyrocketing rates. The current version will mean much smaller increases, they said.

Columbus, Ohio-based American Electric Power said the legislation will send rates about 25 percent higher by 2015; the initial version would have meant rate hikes of 65 percent to 75 percent.

Another big utility that relies on coal, Charlotte, N.C.-based Duke Energy, said the legislation creates regulatory certainty for an industry that spends billions on capital expenditures annually. If Congress does not act, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will after the U.S. Supreme Court gave the agency authority to regulate emissions under the Clean Air Act, Jim Rogers, Duke's chairman, president and CEO, said in a letter to U.S. Rep. James Clyburn obtained by The Associated Press.

"While the EPA may have the technical expertise to create environmentally sound regulations, it lacks the explicit legislative authority to craft an environmentally sound program that minimizes costs to consumers and our economy," the letter said. "So leaving the EPA with the responsibility to develop and implement a program that will touch every aspect of our daily lives is neither appropriate nor in the best interest of our nation."

Rogers said the initial legislation would have required consumers in states where fossil fuels make up the majority of electric generation to pay double _ first to purchase the allowances to keep current generation operational and then for investments in low-carbon technology.

Wayne Leonard, chairman and president of New Orleans-based Entergy, said his company is looking at its alternatives such as biomass and expanding production from its nuclear plants to cut emissions.

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John Porretto in Houston, Mark Williams in Columbus, Ohio, and Tim Huber in Charleston, W.Va., contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — In addition to raising energy prices, the climate legislation that's winding through Congress would create a parallel financial system with a carbon-based currency. The House on Frid...
NEW YORK — In addition to raising energy prices, the climate legislation that's winding through Congress would create a parallel financial system with a carbon-based currency. The House on Frid...
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- bbnz I'm a Fan of bbnz permalink

Reading some of the comments it seems that many just want to stay with the status quo. If you notice much of the (mis) information about this bill is provided by the American Petroleum Institute. And what amazes me is many seem to be buying it. Unless we do something, nothing will change. We are held to ransom by Big Oil who has reaped record profits during the past 8 years. Today they've reduced refining to a minimum to make certain we pay through our teeth at the pump. One could say that what broke the back of our economy was the record $150 a barrel oil prices that more than doubled what we payed for gas. This price was created by speculators and had little do with actual oil supply. Somehow we have to break the monopoly control that the Oil & Coal industry hold over us. We don't have the luxury here of having Oil profits go into our government as unlike countries in the Middle East, Russia, Venezuela, etc. we don't own our resource. Oil Companies do. And Oil revenues in these countries are used support and fund the terrorists that we're spending billions to fight. If we can reduce our dependence on imported oil we will also reduce the funding for those that want to destroy us. This bill is not just about fighting Global warming. It's about creating a new energy future that will make us stronger while weakening those that want the US to

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/30/2009

"CARBON OFFSETTS" ARE A SCAM!
Carbon trading is the new derivative scam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 06/30/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

Yet the U.S. government cap and trade program to reduce acid rain was very successful.

http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=1085

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 06/30/2009

what a mess

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 06/30/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 274 fans permalink

Carbon credits will be the new money. I mean the derivatives thing has worked so well, so far....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 06/30/2009
- fairdebate I'm a Fan of fairdebate 3 fans permalink

Winners...­Government and Big Business..­...loosers­...everyon­e else

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 06/29/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 162 fans permalink
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"If Hard Work had any thing to do with making money, Coal Miners would be Millionair­es..!"

That one is mine...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 06/29/2009
- Pavane I'm a Fan of Pavane 18 fans permalink
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And it is a good one too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 06/30/2009
- blimie I'm a Fan of blimie 14 fans permalink

Obama himself says the electric bills will skyrocket and the electric compainies will pass their costs onto the consumers. This bill was written by corporate/utility companies. We have already experience the trillion dollar stimulus bill, which was a big payoff to banks and finance compainies. It hurt the taxpayer. This is going to be more of the same. Sorry to be crude but this is the crap and trade bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 06/29/2009

A marginal increase in utility costs is a small price to pay for a viable future on this planet. I'll happily pay. The end users wont be losers, they will be winners. The only way there are any losers are if we do nothing, or not enough, in which case we will all be losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 06/29/2009
- JXJASON I'm a Fan of JXJASON 10 fans permalink

Really!

Have you noticed all the homeless around the US??? Do you think they have the money to pay higher electric bills???

My bill this month was $38.00. If my costs go up by $175.00 per year that is about a 35% increase in my bill.

That's outrageous.

This bill, HR 2454 is bad for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 06/30/2009
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Maybe I missed something, but how much do you suppose a homeless person pays on their electricity bill?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 06/30/2009
- blimie I'm a Fan of blimie 14 fans permalink

It's not going to be marginal, it's going to be a huge increase in all utilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 06/30/2009
- Pquilson I'm a Fan of Pquilson 9 fans permalink

Not only on utilities, but everything. The big winner: US government. The big loser: everyone else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 06/30/2009

Another bill passed without everybody reading it and amendments added in the middle of the night. The government will be involved collecting more money from us and sticking their watchdogs in our business for example before you sell your house the government rates it for how environmental friendly it is. Never mind that by stopping us from using so many of our resources we will be even more dependent on foreign oil than we are now.Also the government is hiding all the reports that are opposed to the global warning theories. We need to check and see if any of the people who voted for this bill are making monetary gains from it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/29/2009
- quidam56 I'm a Fan of quidam56 5 fans permalink

Appalachia can't stand anymore of the progress and prosperity of mountaintop removal, Wise Co., VA is being bombed, blasted & bulldozed right into 3rd world America.

www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=138

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 06/29/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 274 fans permalink

I didn't see ANYTHING to help the cheapest source of electricity: 3 cent per KWH rooftop solar. In fact, the reflectance requirements may hurt rooftop solar. This is big energy and wall street traders give away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 06/29/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 274 fans permalink

Credit default swap will be a part of carbon trading:

‘‘(1) INDEX TRADERS AND SWAP DEALERS RE11
PORTING.—T­he Commission shall issue a proposed
12 rule defining and classifying index traders and swap
13 dealers (as those terms are defined by the Commis14
sion)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 06/29/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 274 fans permalink

This bil is a bankers bill. 80% of terms for trading carbon derivatives:

Not later than 60 days after the date of the
13 enactment of this paragraph, the Commission shall convene
14 a Position Limit Energy Advisory Group consisting of rep15
resentatives from—
16 ‘‘(i) 7 predominantly commercial short hedgers
17 of the actual energy commodity for future delivery;
18 ‘‘(ii) 7 predominantly commercial long hedgers
19 of the actual energy commodity for future delivery;
20 ‘‘(iii) 4 non-commercial participants in markets
21 for energy commodities for future delivery; and
22 ‘‘(iv) each designated contract market or deriva23
tives transaction execution facility upon which a con24
tract in the energy commodity for future delivery is
25 traded, and each electronic trading facility that has

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 06/29/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 274 fans permalink

This bill is not cap and trade till 2022.

It's increase and trade till then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 06/29/2009
- Semaj51 I'm a Fan of Semaj51 4 fans permalink
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The losers will be those who home utilizes electricity, natural gas, and/or propane. Other losers will be those who must drive to/from work/shopping.

The winners will be the government (more taxes) and speculators will reap tons of money in the selling/buying carbon rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 06/29/2009
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